Ok, how do I tell if a HDD is CMR or SMR? Which one is IQfy approved? IIRC it was CMR that was preferred by autistic users on this site. I just want to confirm. Post anything else about HDDs in this thread.
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Ok, so I am pretty sure that CMR is what I am looking for. I cannot find this information anywhere in the official docs though. Sirs, my village's data needs to be safety sir plz do the needful and respond.
I'm moronic and figured it out thank you sirs may your goats be healthy and your cows full.
Try to defrag it, if it estimates 2 weeks to completion it's SMR. You can't defrag SMR drives
>You can't defrag SMR
Yes you can it just takes a fricking long time to do it. Why do morons keep repeating this? Did some moronic YouTuber say you can't defrag SMR
I just bought a renewed Seagate Exos X22 22TB from Amazon and it makes a pretty louse grinding noise when starting up sometimes while being used. Ive read reviews saying that theyre loud, although im not sure if this is what they mean. I own other smaller HDDs and they do make a slight spinning noise at start up but not like this. Other than the noise, the drive works fine.
Should i be worried?
This is at start up
https://youtube.com/shorts/7MNT6xss-ZA
and this is while in use, it can be kind of hard to hear in the video.
https://youtube.com/shorts/SJxVv36uo1s
this sounds like normal operation sounds to me but louder, you can email that to seagate and ask. or post it as a question on the amazon page for probably a faster answer.
either way my theory is that exos drives are probably higher quality and so have a more robust motor/magnet, controlling those arms. To the point that they have switched to 2 sets in the later versions. I cant wait until they become cheap,. the first true upgrade to HDD in years
>controlling those arms. To the point that they have switched to 2 sets in the later versions
Dual actuator HDDs are separate skus
They are actually quieter than single actuator because each actuator is half the mass and less seeking noise because of it
yeah i figured, but the actuator still needs to be overall strong to be robust enough to fit two. it sounds like the actuator in that posters video is pretty much a chonker.
>This is at start up
No its not, its already spinning
And yes that sounds normal
Sounds completely normal
Judging by the amount of background noise it's probably not even that loud
That's normal, big hard drive are loud
Yeah, I had seen people online saying they were noisy but I wasn't exactly sure what that meant. it's not loud, but if I'm just sitting at my computer or in my room with no sound I can clearly hear it. I don't mind the sound, I just want sure if it was normal
It should be very quiet when idle and noisy when in use.
Probably "head parking" to avoid head crash or something, I have an old Seagate drive that does this too
i have one of these too and they're loud as frick
havent heard a HDD this loud since like 2012
does anyone even still make SMR? I thought people stopped making those or at least selling to consumers on amazon
All lower capacity new drives are SMR. Which isnt a bad thing really, SMR is good if you just want a backup drive
The higher capacity drives above 14TB are designed for data centers and the consumer versions are quality control rejects of those
OP here (moron) and it's funny because I listened to some YouTubers explaining the difference, and they all said SMR allows you to store more data, but they didn't mention that SMR sucks donkey dicks and all enterprise drives need to be large, so larger drives tend to be CMR. They, in fact, said the opposite. It's amazing you can just spout information and presumably make a living on YouTube talking about tech. Just another day in clown world. I bought some 5 year warranty refurbished 12tb enterprise drives to keep data stored for my startup business. Seems like that should be fine for now, especially since I will also copy that date onto my OS ssd and a random 8tb Seagate HDD. I should probably learn to RAID tho.
Big question that I've read and hear conflicting answers to:
Is it better to keep HDDs always on, or is it better to copy the data over and then turn off my computer, disconnect then, and throw them in my closet. Yes, I will make sure to spin them up occasionally if I do the closet method.
Cold backups are generally safer, as they won't be taken out by electrical faults or silly things like being knocked down.
But when it comes to the disk reliability itself, nobody knows for sure.
more per platter/head space. the price per gb will be lower on these drives assuming no ~~*subversion*~~
its like taking a branded "normal" 1TB drive and now its 4TB with their firmware hack turns out it has fundamental problems like shingles on your roof you cant just change one ity , it gets marked dead/empty and must make a whole new copy on the latest writing track not unlike a flash filesystem and that space will be unusable till it can lay down its shingled layers again on a new pass
might work fine for cheap dvr surveillance drives (i generally buy cause cheap/slow) but for other purposes they probably shit the bed and corrupt i dont think i own any so i cant test
If the hard drive starts to lock up for seconds at a time if you download torrents on it, it's SMR.
its no contest smr is cheaper for a reason
afaik smr is a recent firmware hack during the rona bullshit to sell idiots the big drives they want but using normal cmr drives thus smr was born
its probably not as bad as we make it out to be assuming they were smart and made lots of evenly spaced active tracks that can have no problem laying down new tracks and freeing up those locked areas that get edited often, treat it like an ssd where you need a pretty large headroom for data to shift around ssd's do this for wear leveling
HDDs are not SSDs. SMR makes the biggest issue of HDDs exponentially worse. Random writes are greatly amplified to even more random writes, in practice SMR drives cannot deal with anything but sequential writes.