He came across like as an awkward loser, unlike in the film where they made him look cool
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He came across like as an awkward loser, unlike in the film where they made him look cool
He came across like as an awkward loser, unlike in the film where they made him look cool
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>unlike in the film where they made him look cool
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Not OP but in the book it becomes much more clear that Bateman is a total loser. The reader is constantly reminded of it, one example would be at his gf's party where Bryce full on gropes her while mocking Bateman for being a cuck. While this dynamic is also shown in the movie, it is made to be less humiliating, perhaps a fitting interpretation lest we forget that we experience the world through Patrick's eyes
> it is made to be less humiliating
Not really. What’s happening is the usual tragic reality that someone good looking being cringeworthy and a loser is parsed differently than if he’s a fat balding guy with no chin.
Bateman in the movie is interpreted better because Christian Bale is good looking and in top shape. This is a universal phenomenon.
No Anon. In the book he takes care of himself, so it is reasonable to assume that he looks more or less like Bale in the movie. Though it is debatable if he's afflicted by hair loss as suggested by multiple characters in the book
It's different when you actually can see it.
He's both. The most uncool thing above all is insecurity and caring what other people think about you, upon which Bateman bases his entire identity, pursuing the conformist lifestyle he does and the clean, cool facsimile image of yuppie success. Perhaps because the novel form is interior but a movie is more exterior you are closer to the insecurity in the novel.
He does not come across as cool in the movie. I wonder if people with autism think so. Frightening. Imagine having such a strong veil between your perception and what is actually occurring
He does come across as cool. He’s extremely fit, wealthy, and beautiful women fawn over him. He’s even cool psychologically with his monologues, “I simply am not there.”, but his coolness gets subsumed by his psychopathy as the movie goes on and any notions of “coolness” become overwritten by disgust and pity (if you’re not yourself a sociopath)
Maybe because the lens in which we see him in the movie is how he views himself
Never seen the movie or read the book. I have seen the memes and sole clips. Why is he a loser when he looks so handsome and is rich? Lol
In the book, he tries to be cool but fails miserably. He tries to act smooth around non-yuppie women, black people and others but no one likes him and just sees him as a stuck up rich idiot, which is what he is.
So he is a vapid caricature of the idealized 'powerful' man? Though what distinguishes him as being a loser from his counterparts or better yet the normal people who hate him? The book sounds way different from the movie but interesting. Sounds like they inverted the character archetype on its head. We don't typically see characters like this who seemingly have it all but are perceived by everyone to be a beta loser
I'd say he's a caricature of a vapid powerful man, not a vapid caricature. BEE was talking about himself so it's quite an introspective examination of his own sense of self-alienation as he pursued the "GQ lifestyle". In my reading nothing really distinguishes him from everyone else aside from perhaps greater introspection and self-consciousness, but presumably the same thoughts are going through the other characters' heads with respect to themselves too, we just don't have access to them. Bateman is a mixture of narcissism and self-hatred, so part of the perception of his failure and insecurity is also born of an heightened sensitivity to what others think of him. And surface matters a lot more than inside in the world of the novel and film so people's opinions are superficial judgments, which Bateman is even more of a loser for constantly caring about. For what it's worth I think the film captured a lot of this too but perhaps was less obvious (or less successful?) tonally, and it's harder initially to realise without context the movie is a satire in the same way the novel is.
Because money and looks unironically won't make you happy, but they're everything to Bateman. He has no other redeeming qualities. He has terrible taste in what he spends his money on, a meaningless job which could be performed by any one of his overpaid lookalikes who are basically undistinguishable from him, and spends lots of time and money trying to emulate those lookalikes as much as possible. He's a loser because every single thing he does is a performative statement to the world saying "I'm not a loser".
It's not that Bateman is actually a loser - Bateman perceives that other people perceive him as a loser.
He's an investment banker on Wall Street - he wouldn't last half a day if he was as socially inept and unpopular as he believes himself to be
Totally wrong interpretation. And yes I fell for bait once again
My fren, the bits where his supposed friends insult him to his face are just as imaginary as all the murders.
Though telling perhaps, that anons can see one for the pure fantasy it is, but not the other.
>Boys today see Patrick Bateman being a self obsessed prissy homosexual and don't immediately recognize him as a loser.