He saved millions of boys from being raped.
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By killing millons, in civil wars that broke europe.
His ideology killed tens of millions, just like Marxism
>Protestant countries are richer than Catholic ones
>(post)-socialist countries are poorer than capitalist ones
Weak comparison.
>money! money! money!
>all I care about are the accumulation of materialist goods because I’m soulless and have no deeper connection with the Divine
Just how many more church’s need to be looted and destroyed, sacred traditions abandoned, and priesthoods disbanded for you to be satisfied?
>how many more church’s need to be looted and destroyed
Speaking about "materialist goods", huh.
>You are opposed to mindless destruction and looting of sacred artifacts by a crazed iconoclast mob who claim depictions of our Savior and Martyrs who died for the faith are “idolatry”
>that makes you a materialist just like me!
Deranged Protestant pilpul
Well yes, these are materialist things and Lord Jesus taught us that God is in our hearts, not in some paintings or whatever.
The Ark of the Covenant was also just a “material thing”. The Temple that Jesus literally whipped merchants out of was also just a “material thing”. Christs flesh and blood were also “material things” at one point. Having a physical presence on earth doesn’t make it not sacred. To suggest a depiction of Jesus’ life, Mary, and/or the Saints to be just a piece of wood or carving with no meaning attached to it for worshipers is insanity that only modern Protestants believe because the natural conclusion of forming hundreds of sects and cults with widely different beliefs is to eventually devolve into atheistic nihilism about the Divine, since that justifies any behaviors they engage in.
The problem is at some point you won't be able distinguish what is sacred and what is not, so you either need an authority to do a "sanctity-check", something that can be and was abused to serve people's worldly needs, or you abolish such a concept completely.
>yeah but what even is sacred maaaaaaaaaaan
Lel nice argument. Who gave you the authority to abolish this other authority, by the way? Blind will to power? Are you a prophet? I think you should read more into the structure of Christendom before you apply the standard of 21st century suburban American folk-deism onto the entirety of Christendom.
>Who gave you the authority to abolish this other authority
Who gives the Pope the authority to do anything? It's not like this title comes with a direct phone line to God, you know.
I don't want to live in poo poo. Most people don't want to live in poo poo. Why is this so hard for catholics to understand?
No not really. Protestant nations are rich NOW but for millennia catholics used to be way richer. Spain was so rich that it crashed its economy over the dropping value of gold. France was so filthy rich they stopped invading countries and bought them altogether. Venice alone was more powerful and wealthy than the russian empire.
In any case, wealth by ransacking, exploiting and colonizing has nothing to do with religion. You're a genuine fricking idiot.
>wealth by ransacking, exploiting and colonizing
>brings up Spain
Are you moronic?
now you tell me what's wrong with that sentence. go ahead, let's witness that american education of yours
Spain got poor way before losing colonies. The Protestant countries were and are rich even long after losing colonies or never having any.
No, Catholicism killed tens of millions because they couldn't handle competition.
nah those were cucktholics
He turned christianity into a fanatical cult of blind worshippers, on both sides, instigated the inquisition, and made way for autistic, self harming creeds like puritanism and calvinism (aka work til you die)
Amen! Im thankful every day he saved me from this eternal fate.
Deranged.
Why would Mary taunt a damned soul?
He's a prot.
He's the lowest of the low of the Christian branches.
That explains why he's so dumb.
>anon doesn’t know about the Mary idolatry.
If it’s idolatry, then how many statues of Mary, mother of Jesus, would you like to see destroyed?
Why would I do that? I didn’t even mention statues of Mary. Protestants respect Mary more than Rome, because we don’t make her a point of division within her Son’s body.
Because that’s the end goal with Protestants: to destroy old traditions and replace them with their own, which historically included destroying statues.
So how many statues of Mary do you think should be allowed to exist?
>to destroy old traditions and replace them with their own, which historically included destroying statues
You've just described Christianity as a whole.
>the papists have gone insane.
It’s true. I can’t join the papist church without submitting to idolatrous dogmas about Mary. Mary isn’t a point of division in Protestant churches.
>You’re insane if you think that we want to destroy churches!
You do. You hate almost all Christian imagery and want to destroy it cultural revolution style. That the church stopped you before you could deface all of Western Europe is proof that God disproved of your sects vile actions.
ESL moron
>open my confession.
>CTRL F destroy all images.
>zero results.
You are still insane.
>proclaim yourself a Protestant
>rightly deduce you are an iconoclastic heretic as Protestants were historically and still are
I don’t care what unique sext or cult you claim to beleive in much like I don’t care about what sect a socialist or communist claims to belong to. The fundamental ethos underpinning all Protestant sects was the destruction of the Catholic Church, which often meant literal destruction of things they deemed to be idols.
>YOURE AN ICONCLASTTHAT WANTS TO BURN EVERY CHURCH TO THE GROUND BECAUSE YOU JUST ARE ONE!
It’s true, you do. You may not consciously admit to it, but any committed Protestant who had a chance to usurp to Roman Catholic Church would absolutely do so, because the underpinning of all your cults are that Christians who follow the Pope are damned and you need to come in by whatever means and “enlighten” them with the truth to save their souls.
You call her “the elected instrument” and blaspheme her as a sinner. I’ve heard prot preachers call herstupid on AM radio
>While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to speak to you.” He replied to him, “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” Pointing to his disciples, he said, “Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”
Matthew 12:46-50
>As Jesus was saying these things, a woman in the crowd called out, “Blessed is the mother who gave you birth and nursed you.” He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
Luke 11:27:28
>Jesus makes a witty funny comment to spread love and acceptance to his followers
>Prots take it as proof that he rejects his mother or something
Are prots even human?
was the comment about peter being the rock on which the church was founded also an epically ironic in-joke or what
>tradcath zoomer still seething after being btfo in the other thread
Kek
you're the deranged zealot here, Black person, not us. you can make all the threads you want and screech at the vast majority who don't like you, but in the end all you accomplished was making you look like a fool.
>the vast majority who don't like you
Who?
Not the same Anon you’re referring to.
You’re demonic in heart and soul. That’s why you enjoy or are indifferent to the destruction of beautiful and holy things. Reflection and repentance are the only options left to heal the rift you’ve rent between yourself and the Almighty.
>Not the same Anon you’re referring to
Yes you are
>papists destroy pagan shrines and idols
>this is BASED and REDPILLED
>protestants destroy catholic shrines and idols
>NOOOOO
Why are papists like this?
they're hypocrites
>destroying statues
Still don't understand why the Reformed destroyed the tomb of Robert the Bruce and other Scottish royals just because there was some imagery on them.
>Protestants respect Mary more than Rome,
Copium overdose
>prots literally think there is something wrong with this
seems pretty based to me.
>why are protestants wicked
>you are deranged for calling me a fanatic
>posts image celebrating people with good intentions going to hell
>turned christianity into a fanatical cult of blind worshippers
That was Paul
He had a valid point about indulgences. Actual grifting going in the Church and bootlickers defended it.
>Marx had a valid point about capitalists exploiting workings in disgusting late 19th century cities
>Therefor we need to burn down everything and destroy the church/capitalism and install a new order through extreme violence
Protestantism is really just proto-Bioleninist garbage. You hate the church because you hate yourselves. Instead of closer to God you seek to destroy traditions and kill those who oppose you.
Yes, but he did it at the cost of heresy, so I dunno if it was worth it.
Protestants give off hardcore chud incel vibes. Is anything more pathetic than some wackjob going on a seething rant about the Eucharist on IQfy?
The original hardcore Protestants radicals were the 16ths centuries of seething Communists, angry at the world around them and only using the Indulgences controversy as an excuse to engage in the most vile behavior against normal people. Some of them quite literally WERE the contemporary equivalent of communists and established their own totalitarian city states with insane laws and forced seizure of church and noble property.
Yeah I remember listening to a good episode of Hardcore History about how anibaptists took over the city of Munster in Germany shortly after the reformation and did all the usual cult stuff like the leaders hoarding women and having their husbands castrate themselves etc.
Papist priests are literal incels that's why they have to rape little kids to get some action.
>”... these fresh followers of this new preaching threw down the graven [sculpted] and defaced the painted images, not only of Our Lady but of all others in the town. They tore the curtains, dashed in pieces the carved work of brass and stone, brake the altars, spoilt the clothes and corporesses, wrested the irons, conveyed away or brake the chalices and vestiments, pulled up the brass of the gravestones, not sparing the glass and seats which were made about the pillars of the church for men to sit in. ... the Blessed Sacrament of the altar ... they trod under their feet and (horrible it is to say!) shed their stinking piss upon it ... these false bretheren burned and rent not only all kind of Church books, but, moreover, destroyed whole libraries of books of all sciences and tongues, yea the Holy Scriptures and the ancient fathers, and tore in pieces the maps and charts of the descriptions of countries“
Remember when BLM terrorists ransacked cities and looted stores and tore down historic statues while the police watched from the sidelines and did nothing?
Now imagine that, but 10 times bigger, happening all across Germany and most of Northern Europe, and just like lying BLM leftists, heretics try to pretend that it wasn’t that bad, or give elaborate post how justifications about how mass looting of church’s was a good thing.
Never forget what Protestants actually are about.
>Remember when BLM terrorists ransacked cities and looted stores and tore down historic statues while the police watched from the sidelines and did nothing?
Remember when the head of the One True Holy Apostolic Catholic Church™ wholeheartedly supported those protests?
Lutherans aren't iconoclasts and never have been, why do you make shit up?
Did Luther ever identify and speak against the pedophile priests and popes?
>He saved millions of boys from being raped.
The Nicene church technically did it first though.
>We’re not like that!
>We never said that!
>It never happened!
>You’re insane chud!
>Take your meds!
Always funny to see firsthand how Protestant and the radical leftist are so spiritually similar.
Who are you quoting?
>Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Mark 7:7-9
Both Lutherans and Papists are cringe, here.
This thread should be nuked, and forgotten.
Ah yes, cathcels pretending that rome had unquestioned dominion over the entirety of christianity until luther ruined it all in the 16th century
His heresy caused the death of millions.
Victim blaming
>Victim blaming
??????
The Papists were the aggressors and therefore they are to blame for the Wars of Religion.
The Protties are the agents of aggression and revolt, and thus victimless for the religious wars that they started.
>you're the aggressor for existing!
Why, yes. Glad you concede to the affirmation.
Victim blaming
Yes, Protties tend to do that.
Papaists were corrupt, yes, but you guys went too far with the criticism, an at some point, you stopped being a victim, and started being an agressor, same as the papaist.
So stop this, "we are victims because the Church started it" BS.
All I'm saying is that Luther shouldn't be blamed for the millions of deaths that came about because the Papists wanted to burn Luther and his followers on the stake.