Reddit loves this book. Go on r/books—it’s the only classic they talk about. There is a circlejerk thread every couple of days which garners thousands and thousands of upvotes. It’s entertaining but definitely bloated and poorly written.
>Classic novel of widely reputed literary quality
No, you idiot. It is universally maligned by critics for lacking literary merit. It is a bloated mess of a work and filled with redundancies. Dumas’ writing in the d’Artagnan Romances is far more smooth but because he was paid by the line for Monte Cristo he stretched it out. However, that is what weirdly gives the novel its charm.
>It is universally maligned by critics for lacking literary merit.
First off, Literary Merit =/= Poorly Written. Secondly, who says this? Modern writers? "Literary merit" is the most nebulous term available which essentially boils down to the nature of the book being elusive and its themes being deliberately provocative.
>the Paris Review
Why should I care what some nobody said about a novel that towers over anything they've ever written in their entire lives? Kind of a situation of a mouse critiquing the cat as it has it in its jaws, affair.
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>confused nonsense
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Yea, that's about what I would call that ParisReview.
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>Why should I care what some nobody said about a novel that towers over anything they've ever written in their entire lives?
Anon, the article was written by Umberto Eco…
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>written by Umberto Eco
Yes, and?
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The same Eco who was criticized by Roger Scruton for being a shallow and pedantic writer who hides behind the illusion of being a good writer through the profuse abuse of esotericism?
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My issue was with calling Umberto Eco a nobody; it was not a comment on the quality of his writing.
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He is though. Only people within the spheres of "the now" literary circles know or care who Umberto is. Danielle Steele is more of a known author than he is.
Reddit loves this book. Go on r/books—it’s the only classic they talk about. There is a circlejerk thread every couple of days which garners thousands and thousands of upvotes. It’s entertaining but definitely bloated and poorly written.
How can reddit love this book if they hate ''groomers''?
>He becomes rich and kills his enemies instead of moping about life
No, even better, he gets them to kill themselves/makes their own evil catch up to them. He doesn't even do anything morally wrong, just brings their evil deeds to light.
he gets a child killed and realizes he shouldn't play God, then tries to redeem himself by getting Maximilien and Valentine together. Then he fricks off
>He gets a child killed and realizes he shouldn't play God, then tries to redeem himself by getting Maximilien and Valentine together. Then he fricks off and becomes the Sultan of Albania with his exotic daughter/concubine.
I remember in college we had this white middle aged woman as a professor in one of my literature classes and in one of the first classes she told us to call out "names of classical authors". I could immediately tell what she was trying to do, and called out "Alexandre Dumas". Predictably, when she finished writing all the names down, she stated "Notice how these writers are all white straight males?" - I then pointed out "Dumas" wasn't and her reply was just "Well students don't usually call out his name."
I laughed and proceeded to do jack-shit all semester. Still finished with an A.
Dumas is a playwright first, novelist second. TCOMC could've been at least 200-300 pages shorter and had the same impact. It's a beautiful book though, but not without it's demerits (but what book isn't?)
Like the other anon said, Dumas was paid per line and it shows when he drags events—Franz d'Epinay and Albert de Morcerf in Italy, for example.
Pure kino, but IQfy hate it because reddit told them to
Reddit loves this book. Go on r/books—it’s the only classic they talk about. There is a circlejerk thread every couple of days which garners thousands and thousands of upvotes. It’s entertaining but definitely bloated and poorly written.
>Classic novel of widely reputed literary quality
>IQfy's Opinion: "It's shit and poorly written"
About what I expected.
>Classic novel of widely reputed literary quality
No, you idiot. It is universally maligned by critics for lacking literary merit. It is a bloated mess of a work and filled with redundancies. Dumas’ writing in the d’Artagnan Romances is far more smooth but because he was paid by the line for Monte Cristo he stretched it out. However, that is what weirdly gives the novel its charm.
https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/10/28/the-cult-of-the-imperfect/
>It is universally maligned by critics for lacking literary merit.
First off, Literary Merit =/= Poorly Written. Secondly, who says this? Modern writers? "Literary merit" is the most nebulous term available which essentially boils down to the nature of the book being elusive and its themes being deliberately provocative.
>the Paris Review
Why should I care what some nobody said about a novel that towers over anything they've ever written in their entire lives? Kind of a situation of a mouse critiquing the cat as it has it in its jaws, affair.
>confused nonsense
Yea, that's about what I would call that ParisReview.
>Why should I care what some nobody said about a novel that towers over anything they've ever written in their entire lives?
Anon, the article was written by Umberto Eco…
>written by Umberto Eco
Yes, and?
The same Eco who was criticized by Roger Scruton for being a shallow and pedantic writer who hides behind the illusion of being a good writer through the profuse abuse of esotericism?
My issue was with calling Umberto Eco a nobody; it was not a comment on the quality of his writing.
He is though. Only people within the spheres of "the now" literary circles know or care who Umberto is. Danielle Steele is more of a known author than he is.
How can reddit love this book if they hate ''groomers''?
dangerously based. it has a much more based resolution too. He becomes rich and kills his enemies instead of moping about life
I mean, what else would you do if you got immensely rich?
>He becomes rich and kills his enemies instead of moping about life
No, even better, he gets them to kill themselves/makes their own evil catch up to them. He doesn't even do anything morally wrong, just brings their evil deeds to light.
>dangerously based
Marrying a Grecian prostitute isn't based.
>He's literally me
you are Gustave Courbet?
he gets a child killed and realizes he shouldn't play God, then tries to redeem himself by getting Maximilien and Valentine together. Then he fricks off
>He gets a child killed and realizes he shouldn't play God, then tries to redeem himself by getting Maximilien and Valentine together. Then he fricks off and becomes the Sultan of Albania with his exotic daughter/concubine.
Dumas was the most based Black person to ever live
More like 1/4 Black.
A pior perspectiva ja presenciada nesse conciliábulo asio-americano de coser cestas
MACHADO QUE HONRA A SUA VISITA A ESTE CONCILIÁBULO MONGOL DE OBSERVAÇÃO DE PÁSSAROS
SOU FÃ
Did you do time?
The prison was inside me all that time
Probably not quite qualified to be Dantes.
the first section of this book is so much fun. except for that fernard character.. I don't like him >_<
Dumas is great. All of his works are great.
I remember in college we had this white middle aged woman as a professor in one of my literature classes and in one of the first classes she told us to call out "names of classical authors". I could immediately tell what she was trying to do, and called out "Alexandre Dumas". Predictably, when she finished writing all the names down, she stated "Notice how these writers are all white straight males?" - I then pointed out "Dumas" wasn't and her reply was just "Well students don't usually call out his name."
I laughed and proceeded to do jack-shit all semester. Still finished with an A.
there's always one insufferable homosexual (ironically me in this case) that brings up Auguste Maquet but Dumas is the one who brings out the magic
I hate all homosexual female teachers
Dumas is a playwright first, novelist second. TCOMC could've been at least 200-300 pages shorter and had the same impact. It's a beautiful book though, but not without it's demerits (but what book isn't?)
Like the other anon said, Dumas was paid per line and it shows when he drags events—Franz d'Epinay and Albert de Morcerf in Italy, for example.