Historically speaking why do celts have so much sovl?
Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival? What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?
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>Historically speaking why do celts have so much sovl?
They don't. They're mud hut dwellers who revel in their own stupidity. Literally Africa-tier.
>Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
Too many LARPers for them to ever go extinct. But they will only ever exist as a LARP, not as actual living languages.
>What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?
They got raped, pillaged and cucked by Anglo-Saxons. The rightful place of Celtoids is beneath the Germanic man's boot.
Bad thread but bump for Celtposting.
>Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
Revival. Every surviving Celtic language is currently going through some kind of revival. Others, like Welsh, are still very much alive in numerous places. Give it time and you'll see. The Anglo Order is collapsing as we speak.
>What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?
Money, immigration, emigration, repression, necessity.
>They're mud hut dwellers who revel in their own stupidity. Literally Africa-tier.
You mean like nearly everywhere on the planet until ~100 years ago?
>Too many LARPers for them to ever go extinct.
How is it a larp to learn a new language? Especially when you have ethnic ties to said language?
>not as actual living languages
Incorrect. Where they're dominant, they're more than alive. Plenty of Welsh speakers, plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides.
>They got raped, pillaged and cucked by Anglo-Saxons. The rightful place of Celtoids is beneath the Germanic man's boot.
Nice power fantasy. Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
>Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
What, some degree of celtic blood from celtic pussy that was ravaged in the past?
>How is it a larp to learn a new language? Especially when you have ethnic ties to said language?
Usually because those who go hardest on the LARP tend to be blokes called Barry Walsh from Dublin, or Alexander Smith from Edinburgh, who claim some Celtic tribal lineage that hasn't existed in their regions for 1000+ years. You get things like the SNP spunking tens of millions on Gaelic road signs when Gaelic hasn't been the official language of Scotland for over a millennium.
>Incorrect. Where they're dominant, they're more than alive. Plenty of Welsh speakers, plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides.
No opportunity for expansion though. Ireland is the most hilarious case. For all they bang on about hating the English, the Irish language is relegated to a mere schoolboy's nuisance over there. The Irish language has declined MORE since they became independent!
>Nice power fantasy. Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
The English are no more Celtic than the average Northern Frenchman or Western German. The genetic studies that have been printed are generally bogus and are misconstrued by people with a blatant anti-English and anti-Germanic agenda.
Regardless, even if it were true that "duh anglo saxons not real, you wuz just celts!", that would only prove how pathetic Celtoids are that they bowed down to a few conquerors and embraced a foreign language and culture wholeheartedly. Proving the destiny of Celtoids is to be dominated by Germanics.
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Why do celts larp as epic warriors when they were almost always defeated?
While Germanics fought against rome, celts were defeated by it. While Germanics fought against christianity muh epic celts became some of the most ardent christians in europe and quickly forgot about their old religion. It was celts who lamented the wild pagan saxons coming over and destroying their cities
>Why do celts larp as epic warriors when they were almost always defeated?
Like I said, they're Africa-tier. Celts cope hard by claiming they're some deeply oppressed victim race like the descendants of African slaves. The strategies of coping are extremely similar.
They were some of the first in northern europe to adopt christianity and the most ardent in spreading it, and even nowadays ireland is far more christian than its neighbors to the east yet they love larping that christianity was forced on them by the evil invading anglos
What the frick? No Irishman has ever said that. Even anti-clerical Irish people take a residual pride in their ancestors helping to civilise the English through the Northumbrian missions. There are however some Irish Convertodox larpers who claim Ireland was Orthodox until the English forced us to be Catholic
There are celtic pagans who unironically spout that the english suppressed the celtic religion
Well they're not wrong that the English suppressed Irish practices of pagan origin, but the Irish who engaged in such practices would have seen themselves as good Catholics and not regarded their own customs as pagan
>But on the road, as we travelled back, the Irish country folk kindled great fires on high mountains every night, with much dancing round the fires by great multitudes both of men and women, with junketings and merrymaking. This is the old custom of the Irish people, which they have observed from the most ancient times, maintaining that all goes better with them if they continue it, than if they should let it drop. This is, as it were, their faith, and though the English have tried to wean them from the custom, and sternly forbidden it, the Irish have obstinately refused to give up their fires and dances, which have become the custom and habit of the countryside.
Memoirs of Jon Olafsson, Icelander and traveller to India, 1622-1625, as written by himself, 1661
people mistake culture for religion.
I agree. Neopaganism is pointless because being Christian didn't stop medieval and renaissance Europeans from imitating Virgil, studying Plotinus, making sculptures of Apollo and poetically invoking the Muses. Christian Europeans embraced pagan culture but as culture, not religion
>Like I said, they're Africa-tier. Celts cope hard by claiming they're some deeply oppressed victim race like the descendants of African slaves. The strategies of coping are extremely similar.
Irish people (as distinct from the diaspora) don't claim to be oppressed by the English as of now and most of us rather like England despite the sore past history. But the comparison between the historic experience of the Irish peasant and the black slave is less absurd than it might seem. See the extracts from foreign observers in this thread:
Don't forget the ever popular 'WE INVENTED IT' school of cope
The Celts were never defeated as a group. The Gauls were beaten but it took the entire might of Rome, their greatest commander, Germanic adventurers, and other Gauls to bring down greater Gaul at a total of 35% Strength.
The Eastern Britons were defeated in the same manner but despite being outnumbered and facing down the greatest military at the time, they still hammered the Romans in open battle, a feat repeated only by the Goths.
Beyond Southern Britain, the Romans were unable to subdue the Celtic people of the Isles, electing instead to generate a cultural fusion and assimilation by building unassailable forts to protect trade nodes.
>Germanics fought against Christianity
The Norse and Saxons did very early on, but eventually adopted it.
The conversion of Celt, Nordic, and Germanic isn't all that dissimilar.
unlike blacks the Celts have a culture of Honor and self sufficiency which leads to giga autists trying to solo Empires with their Tribal retinue and maybe their Uncle Norfs.
Everytime the Romans and Greeks met with the Celts they commented on their ability to punch above their own weight to an extreme degree and found it endearing that such a divided people could be so capable in spite of their division.
If all the Gauls had united The Universe could not stand against them.
Even into the middle ages historically Celtic populations were the most sought out mercenaries.
Look at the Irish or French and tell me Norse or Frankish blood flows through them, they are clearly still a predominantly Celtic population and yet they are among the most influential leaders and conquerors to date.
extinction is unlikely given the surge in nationalism that will be seen in a few years.
I imagine English will be seen as American and in rebellion against America, the native peoples of Europe will cast down English as a language and uphold their own native tongues.
>I imagine English will be seen as American and in rebellion against America, the native peoples of Europe will cast down English as a language and uphold their own native tongues.
>extinction is unlikely given the surge in nationalism that will be seen in a few years.
What the frick are you smoking? Also one brony basically ended the Scots language so real strong 'rising' you have there
Scots is a Germanic language
Why do you think the current time will last forever?
The celts were semi civilised, and that is why they fell
Every roman writer noted that while the gauls (and britons to a lesser extent) were semi civlised, the Germanics were completely wild and uncivilised and that is why they btfo'd the gauls and romans time after time
Gauls btfo'd the Germans.
When the Romans encountered the Germans they were overflowing with people, and it was only after Romans disarmed the Gauls the Germanic migrations began.
Early Germanic burials or rather burials in Germany and South Scandinavia, featured Celtic weaponry while the commons featured more primitive Germanic styled weapons.
>Gauls btfo'd the Germans.
nah they cried to rome for help after ariovistus btfo'ed them
Germanic burials featured celtic weaponry because GERMANIC WARRIORS captured them from the celts they defeated
The names of early Germanic Kings were Gallic in origin.
Ariovistus is also a Gallic name lol.
Marbod king of the Marcomanni had a name whose Celtic elements mean "great raven" but whose element in Irish look like they mean "big penis" ("mór" = great, "bod" = penis). Bod mór = big wiener. I reckon Marbod's name was really Great wiener not Great Raven
WE WUZ GAULS N SHEIT homie
why are celtoids so delusional
Gauls are Celtic and both descend (insular and continental) from very late Beakerchads.
The Celtic races of Europe were too brave, too individualistic, too heroic, and all too human, they did not possess the machine-like organization of the Germanic hive, and thus anytime the Celts fought eachother they lost land to more organized groups like Medlets (who were fathered by proto-Celts), land which they only regained if unified, which was rare, while Germanic tribes would funnel in reinforcements from their shared space bugman longhouses and Rome would cower their way forward in open fields out from their proto-pod multiracial villas whenever a GALLIC BVLL would steal a cow or horse or a girl from them.
also the Teuton's ruling families were Celtic in name
>Usually because those who go hardest on the LARP tend to be blokes called Barry Walsh from Dublin, or Alexander Smith from Edinburgh, who claim some Celtic tribal lineage that hasn't existed in their regions for 1000+ years.
You're not wrong with regard to urban types being more into larping, but to be fair you should acknowledge that the Irish do have eerily long memories. Those few Gaelic noble families who by assimilation into the Anglo-Irish aristocracy survived the ravages of the modern period arguably have the oldest recorded genealogies in Europe.
Part of the reason for the intense agrarian instability in Ireland stemmed from the fact that the dispossessed Irish serfs COULD in fact remember that the land they were tilling once belonged to their family
>The Anglo Order is collapsing as we speak
kino line that's been repeated for centuries now
>plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides
The outer Hebrides have a population of 2 men and 100 thousand sheep
t. Born in Caithness
eternal Jomon except they actually won.
The vast majority of human achievement has been in historically Western European or Celtic areas.
>larp
How is it larp if they are actually Celtic?
>raped and cucked by Germanics
The Welsh a tiny country of hillmen and bog squatting fly catchers are only 55% Insular Celt, the rest being Saxon (25% "Danish"), Norman (10% continental European), and Norse (10% Scandinavian). While being over 90% Insular Celtic Y DNA.
otherway around, most of the English carry I2 and R1b native to the Isles, I1 and U106 isnt as prevalent despite Anglo-Saxon autosomal DNA being very prevalent.
Celtic languages ? Gauls were conquered, then for Brittany just ask the French IIIrd Republic
>And the more I study the question, the more firmly am I convinced that the one supreme race is the Teuton. Observe the condition in the British Isles. The English are wholly Teutonic, and therefore dominant. The southern Scotch and eastern Irish are also of that blood—they certainly surpass their fellows to the north and west. The Welsh, who have no Teutonic blood, are of little account. Had it not been for the Teutonic infusion at the beginning of the Dark Ages, southern Europe would have been lost. Who were these early “French” kings and heroes that founded French civilisation? Teutons, to a man! It was the Teutonic might of Charles Martel that drove the Saracen Semite out of Gaul. Who were the Normans? Teutons of the North. It is pitiful to me to hear apostles of equity pipe out that other races can equal this foremost of all—this successor to the Roman race in power and virility.
absolute cringe
>literally dies impoverished virgin loser
>>Did we not pour down out of our native forests and reclaim a degenerate Europe where civilisation, under effete Mediterranean dregs, was dying out? My God! The very name of France comes from our huge yellow-bearded Franks, and in Spain they call a gentleman a hidalgo -- hijo del goda -- son of the Goth -- the huge blue-eyed, conquering Nordick! Fancy a world without Clovis -- or its Charlemagne -- the Teuton Karlomann, and the Vikings and the Norsemen...ho for the frozen seas and the epick of sleet and blood, strange lands and far wonders! Greenland, Iceland, Normandy, England, Sicily -- the world was ours, and the mountainous billows heaved with the Cyclopean rhythm of our barbarick chants and shouts of mastery! Art? By Woden, were not our deeds and battles, our victories and empires, all parts of a poem more wonderful then aught which Homer cou'd strike from a Grecian lyre? Ho! Yaah! We are men! We are big men! We are strong men, for we make men do what we want! Let no man balk us, for our gods are big gods, and our arms and our swords are tough! Hrrrr! The stones of towns fall down when we come, and crows love us for the feast of dead men we give them. The lands shake with the thump of our feet, and hills grow flat when we stride up and down them. The floods are dry when we have drunk them, and no beasts are left when we have killed and gorged. By day we kill and seize, at dusk we feast and drink, by nights we snore and dream big dreams of strange seas we shall sail, old towns we shall burn, stout men we shall slay, wild beasts we shall hunt, deep cups we shall drain, fat boars we shall tear limb from limb with our hands, and gnaw with our sharp teeth. Great Thor, but this is life! We ask no more! We know the cool of deep woods, and the spell of their gloom and the things void of name that lurk or may lurk in them.
>Ho! Yaah! We are men! We are big men! We are strong men, for we make men do what we want! Let no man balk us, for our gods are big gods, and our arms and our swords are tough! Hrrrr!
By far the most smoked shit Lovecraft ever wrote, but still based.
>lowland scotland
>celtic
why are braveheart larpers so delusional?
Black person
It's mostly larping, these cultures were mostly destroyed and today are being recreated by University departments and Holywood.
>Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
Probable extinction.
The English even stole the shape of Wales, England is shaped like a larger version of Wales.
foreigners have bad taste in irish music
here's the good stuff
Seosamh Ó hÉanaí is one of the best. Liam Weldon was amazing too.
Celts are the slavs of the west. Only Germanics and Latins are civilized
Germanics are natural barbarians and opposed to the civilised order.
this is not a bad thing
English are more civilized than the Irish. So are Germans. Cope and seethe
Here in Ireland English people have a reputation for being thugs and chavs
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>haha, the irish are stupid and weak mud hut people
>OH N-
I am convinced that the reason English people are so obsessed with Ireland is that they're still in damage control from losing a war to a bunch of moron farmers who literally stole their weapons FROM the British.
>all this talk
>Celtic languages are almost extinct
OH NO NO NO
cope+seethe+still lost
my fave version of this song is included in a war film by the English director Ken Loach (also did the pro-Irish WoI film 'The Wind that Shakes the Barley')