Historically speaking why do celts have so much sovl?

Historically speaking why do celts have so much sovl?

Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival? What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?

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  1. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Historically speaking why do celts have so much sovl?
    They don't. They're mud hut dwellers who revel in their own stupidity. Literally Africa-tier.
    >Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
    Too many LARPers for them to ever go extinct. But they will only ever exist as a LARP, not as actual living languages.
    >What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?
    They got raped, pillaged and cucked by Anglo-Saxons. The rightful place of Celtoids is beneath the Germanic man's boot.

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      Bad thread but bump for Celtposting.
      >Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
      Revival. Every surviving Celtic language is currently going through some kind of revival. Others, like Welsh, are still very much alive in numerous places. Give it time and you'll see. The Anglo Order is collapsing as we speak.
      >What has lead to them becoming so endangered in the first place?
      Money, immigration, emigration, repression, necessity.

      >They're mud hut dwellers who revel in their own stupidity. Literally Africa-tier.
      You mean like nearly everywhere on the planet until ~100 years ago?
      >Too many LARPers for them to ever go extinct.
      How is it a larp to learn a new language? Especially when you have ethnic ties to said language?
      >not as actual living languages
      Incorrect. Where they're dominant, they're more than alive. Plenty of Welsh speakers, plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides.

      >They got raped, pillaged and cucked by Anglo-Saxons. The rightful place of Celtoids is beneath the Germanic man's boot.
      Nice power fantasy. Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
        What, some degree of celtic blood from celtic pussy that was ravaged in the past?

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >How is it a larp to learn a new language? Especially when you have ethnic ties to said language?
        Usually because those who go hardest on the LARP tend to be blokes called Barry Walsh from Dublin, or Alexander Smith from Edinburgh, who claim some Celtic tribal lineage that hasn't existed in their regions for 1000+ years. You get things like the SNP spunking tens of millions on Gaelic road signs when Gaelic hasn't been the official language of Scotland for over a millennium.

        >Incorrect. Where they're dominant, they're more than alive. Plenty of Welsh speakers, plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides.
        No opportunity for expansion though. Ireland is the most hilarious case. For all they bang on about hating the English, the Irish language is relegated to a mere schoolboy's nuisance over there. The Irish language has declined MORE since they became independent!

        >Nice power fantasy. Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
        The English are no more Celtic than the average Northern Frenchman or Western German. The genetic studies that have been printed are generally bogus and are misconstrued by people with a blatant anti-English and anti-Germanic agenda.

        Regardless, even if it were true that "duh anglo saxons not real, you wuz just celts!", that would only prove how pathetic Celtoids are that they bowed down to a few conquerors and embraced a foreign language and culture wholeheartedly. Proving the destiny of Celtoids is to be dominated by Germanics.

        • 3 years ago
          Anonymous

          Based
          Why do celts larp as epic warriors when they were almost always defeated?
          While Germanics fought against rome, celts were defeated by it. While Germanics fought against christianity muh epic celts became some of the most ardent christians in europe and quickly forgot about their old religion. It was celts who lamented the wild pagan saxons coming over and destroying their cities

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Why do celts larp as epic warriors when they were almost always defeated?
            Like I said, they're Africa-tier. Celts cope hard by claiming they're some deeply oppressed victim race like the descendants of African slaves. The strategies of coping are extremely similar.

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            They were some of the first in northern europe to adopt christianity and the most ardent in spreading it, and even nowadays ireland is far more christian than its neighbors to the east yet they love larping that christianity was forced on them by the evil invading anglos

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick? No Irishman has ever said that. Even anti-clerical Irish people take a residual pride in their ancestors helping to civilise the English through the Northumbrian missions. There are however some Irish Convertodox larpers who claim Ireland was Orthodox until the English forced us to be Catholic

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            There are celtic pagans who unironically spout that the english suppressed the celtic religion

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well they're not wrong that the English suppressed Irish practices of pagan origin, but the Irish who engaged in such practices would have seen themselves as good Catholics and not regarded their own customs as pagan

            >But on the road, as we travelled back, the Irish country folk kindled great fires on high mountains every night, with much dancing round the fires by great multitudes both of men and women, with junketings and merrymaking. This is the old custom of the Irish people, which they have observed from the most ancient times, maintaining that all goes better with them if they continue it, than if they should let it drop. This is, as it were, their faith, and though the English have tried to wean them from the custom, and sternly forbidden it, the Irish have obstinately refused to give up their fires and dances, which have become the custom and habit of the countryside.
            Memoirs of Jon Olafsson, Icelander and traveller to India, 1622-1625, as written by himself, 1661

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            I agree. Neopaganism is pointless because being Christian didn't stop medieval and renaissance Europeans from imitating Virgil, studying Plotinus, making sculptures of Apollo and poetically invoking the Muses. Christian Europeans embraced pagan culture but as culture, not religion

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Like I said, they're Africa-tier. Celts cope hard by claiming they're some deeply oppressed victim race like the descendants of African slaves. The strategies of coping are extremely similar.

            Irish people (as distinct from the diaspora) don't claim to be oppressed by the English as of now and most of us rather like England despite the sore past history. But the comparison between the historic experience of the Irish peasant and the black slave is less absurd than it might seem. See the extracts from foreign observers in this thread:

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          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget the ever popular 'WE INVENTED IT' school of cope

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            The Celts were never defeated as a group. The Gauls were beaten but it took the entire might of Rome, their greatest commander, Germanic adventurers, and other Gauls to bring down greater Gaul at a total of 35% Strength.
            The Eastern Britons were defeated in the same manner but despite being outnumbered and facing down the greatest military at the time, they still hammered the Romans in open battle, a feat repeated only by the Goths.
            Beyond Southern Britain, the Romans were unable to subdue the Celtic people of the Isles, electing instead to generate a cultural fusion and assimilation by building unassailable forts to protect trade nodes.
            >Germanics fought against Christianity
            The Norse and Saxons did very early on, but eventually adopted it.
            The conversion of Celt, Nordic, and Germanic isn't all that dissimilar.

            >Why do celts larp as epic warriors when they were almost always defeated?
            Like I said, they're Africa-tier. Celts cope hard by claiming they're some deeply oppressed victim race like the descendants of African slaves. The strategies of coping are extremely similar.

            unlike blacks the Celts have a culture of Honor and self sufficiency which leads to giga autists trying to solo Empires with their Tribal retinue and maybe their Uncle Norfs.
            Everytime the Romans and Greeks met with the Celts they commented on their ability to punch above their own weight to an extreme degree and found it endearing that such a divided people could be so capable in spite of their division.
            If all the Gauls had united The Universe could not stand against them.
            Even into the middle ages historically Celtic populations were the most sought out mercenaries.
            Look at the Irish or French and tell me Norse or Frankish blood flows through them, they are clearly still a predominantly Celtic population and yet they are among the most influential leaders and conquerors to date.

            It's mostly larping, these cultures were mostly destroyed and today are being recreated by University departments and Holywood.

            >Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
            Probable extinction.

            extinction is unlikely given the surge in nationalism that will be seen in a few years.
            I imagine English will be seen as American and in rebellion against America, the native peoples of Europe will cast down English as a language and uphold their own native tongues.

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I imagine English will be seen as American and in rebellion against America, the native peoples of Europe will cast down English as a language and uphold their own native tongues.

            >extinction is unlikely given the surge in nationalism that will be seen in a few years.

            What the frick are you smoking? Also one brony basically ended the Scots language so real strong 'rising' you have there

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Scots is a Germanic language

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you think the current time will last forever?

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            The celts were semi civilised, and that is why they fell
            Every roman writer noted that while the gauls (and britons to a lesser extent) were semi civlised, the Germanics were completely wild and uncivilised and that is why they btfo'd the gauls and romans time after time

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Gauls btfo'd the Germans.
            When the Romans encountered the Germans they were overflowing with people, and it was only after Romans disarmed the Gauls the Germanic migrations began.
            Early Germanic burials or rather burials in Germany and South Scandinavia, featured Celtic weaponry while the commons featured more primitive Germanic styled weapons.

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Gauls btfo'd the Germans.
            nah they cried to rome for help after ariovistus btfo'ed them
            Germanic burials featured celtic weaponry because GERMANIC WARRIORS captured them from the celts they defeated

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            The names of early Germanic Kings were Gallic in origin.
            Ariovistus is also a Gallic name lol.

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Marbod king of the Marcomanni had a name whose Celtic elements mean "great raven" but whose element in Irish look like they mean "big penis" ("mór" = great, "bod" = penis). Bod mór = big wiener. I reckon Marbod's name was really Great wiener not Great Raven

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            Gauls are Celtic and both descend (insular and continental) from very late Beakerchads.
            The Celtic races of Europe were too brave, too individualistic, too heroic, and all too human, they did not possess the machine-like organization of the Germanic hive, and thus anytime the Celts fought eachother they lost land to more organized groups like Medlets (who were fathered by proto-Celts), land which they only regained if unified, which was rare, while Germanic tribes would funnel in reinforcements from their shared space bugman longhouses and Rome would cower their way forward in open fields out from their proto-pod multiracial villas whenever a GALLIC BVLL would steal a cow or horse or a girl from them.

          • 3 years ago
            Anonymous

            also the Teuton's ruling families were Celtic in name

        • 3 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Usually because those who go hardest on the LARP tend to be blokes called Barry Walsh from Dublin, or Alexander Smith from Edinburgh, who claim some Celtic tribal lineage that hasn't existed in their regions for 1000+ years.

          You're not wrong with regard to urban types being more into larping, but to be fair you should acknowledge that the Irish do have eerily long memories. Those few Gaelic noble families who by assimilation into the Anglo-Irish aristocracy survived the ravages of the modern period arguably have the oldest recorded genealogies in Europe.

          Part of the reason for the intense agrarian instability in Ireland stemmed from the fact that the dispossessed Irish serfs COULD in fact remember that the land they were tilling once belonged to their family

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >The Anglo Order is collapsing as we speak
        kino line that's been repeated for centuries now

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >plenty of Scottish Gaelic speakers in the outer Hebrides
        The outer Hebrides have a population of 2 men and 100 thousand sheep
        t. Born in Caithness

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      eternal Jomon except they actually won.

      The vast majority of human achievement has been in historically Western European or Celtic areas.
      >larp
      How is it larp if they are actually Celtic?
      >raped and cucked by Germanics
      The Welsh a tiny country of hillmen and bog squatting fly catchers are only 55% Insular Celt, the rest being Saxon (25% "Danish"), Norman (10% continental European), and Norse (10% Scandinavian). While being over 90% Insular Celtic Y DNA.

      >Don't tell me you haven't seen English genetic studies! You're not gonna like what you see, Mr. Beowulf.
      What, some degree of celtic blood from celtic pussy that was ravaged in the past?

      otherway around, most of the English carry I2 and R1b native to the Isles, I1 and U106 isnt as prevalent despite Anglo-Saxon autosomal DNA being very prevalent.

  2. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Celtic languages ? Gauls were conquered, then for Brittany just ask the French IIIrd Republic

  3. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >lowland scotland
    >celtic
    why are braveheart larpers so delusional?

  4. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Black person

  5. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's mostly larping, these cultures were mostly destroyed and today are being recreated by University departments and Holywood.

    >Also, are these Celtic languages destined to go extinct or is there a real possibility for a revival?
    Probable extinction.

  6. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    The English even stole the shape of Wales, England is shaped like a larger version of Wales.

  7. 3 years ago
    Anonymous
  8. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    foreigners have bad taste in irish music
    here's the good stuff

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      Seosamh Ó hÉanaí is one of the best. Liam Weldon was amazing too.

  9. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Celts are the slavs of the west. Only Germanics and Latins are civilized

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      Germanics are natural barbarians and opposed to the civilised order.
      this is not a bad thing

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        English are more civilized than the Irish. So are Germans. Cope and seethe

        • 3 years ago
          Anonymous

          Here in Ireland English people have a reputation for being thugs and chavs

  10. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

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  11. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >haha, the irish are stupid and weak mud hut people
    >OH N-

    I am convinced that the reason English people are so obsessed with Ireland is that they're still in damage control from losing a war to a bunch of moron farmers who literally stole their weapons FROM the British.

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      >all this talk
      >Celtic languages are almost extinct
      OH NO NO NO

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        cope+seethe+still lost

  12. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    my fave version of this song is included in a war film by the English director Ken Loach (also did the pro-Irish WoI film 'The Wind that Shakes the Barley')

  13. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

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