why would you out yourself like this moron, hold your problematic political beliefs in silence like the rest of us. >t. social work with refugees at day, NatSoc utopia in my dreams at night.
he might be a creepy incel in whatever ghetto or liberal college town you are from where you'd scoff at his clothing and haircut, spit venom and ostracize him, but I'm sure he fits in among fundies, it is funny how delusional you people are
Yeah I'm sure these people procreated to preserve the white race and the glory of Christendom and they're not normies who'd ostracize you for your opinions on Black folk and israelites. >look at these heckin wholesome aryaninos LITERALLY ME
lol just lmao
>that nationality was invented 60 years ago
judea was called Palaestina by romans after second israeli war. our favorite twinklover did it to spite israelites. Palaestina is based on philistines.
Let me save you some time. This phase will end in a year or so, there will be a secondary transition page where you'll be a racist femboy. Eventually you'll grow out of it and look back at the political larping, and cringe deeply. Hopefully this lets you skip a few steps
The first mention of Panthera comes from the second century. On the other hand, the gospels were completed at the end of the first century, so the immaculate conception was attested before Panthera.
>On the other hand, the gospels were completed at the end of the first century, so the immaculate conception was attested before Panthera.
The Immaculate conception is not the virgin birth of Jesus.
When someone tells you a woman spontaneously had a child without having sex, the most logical thing to do is assume she cucked her husband. I don't understand how credulous you have to be to believe the Immaculate Conception story.
Yeah well in ancient egypt every pharaoh was a descendent of a God so I don't think it would be too out of place for the Messiah to be conceived this way.
The doctrine of Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with the Virgin Birth of Jesus.
"Immaculate Conception" means that Mary, mother of Jesus, was born without Original Sin, permitting God in human form to be born from her flesh. She had a fully human father that copulated with her fully human mother; not a virgin birth.
The Virgin Birth doctrine concerns the declaration of faith that Jesus (Yeshua ben Yusuf) was conceived physically in Mary's womb directly by the Holy Spirit without physical copulation as the Son of God.
Mary's Perpetual Virginity is the dogma that Mary never carnally knew a man in her life at any point before or after the birth of Jesus. I personally find that a lot less believable than a virgin birth.
>was born without Original Sin, permitting God in human form to be born from her flesh.
that is the most moronic doctrine i've ever heard, only behind the buraq. is the christian god really that weak
2 years ago
Anonymous
The supposition is that if God were to enter a body in the state of Sin, He would destroy the body by entering it.
Panthera is from Sidon, Phoenicia, rather close to where Jesus lived >The name Pantera is Greek, although it appears in Latin in the inscription. It was perhaps his last name, and means panther.[3] The names Tiberius Julius are acquired names and were probably given to him in recognition of serving in the Roman army as he obtained Roman citizenship on his honorable discharge from the Legion.[3] The name Abd in Phoenician means "servant of", and is most likely short for Eshmoun/Eshmun, a Phoenician god of healing and the tutelary god of Sidon. Pantera was from Sidonia, which is identified with Sidon in Phoenicia, and joined the Cohors I Sagittariorum (first cohort of archers).[3] >Pantera is not an unusual name, and its use goes back at least to the 2nd century.[5] Prior to the end of the 19th century, at various times in history scholars had hypothesized that the name Pantera was an uncommon or even a fabricated name, but in 1891 French archaeologist C. S. Clermont-Ganneau showed that it was a name that was in use in Judaea by other people and Adolf Deissmann later showed with certainty that it was a common name at the time, and that it was especially common among Roman soldiers,[3][7][1] which would also fit the name Pantera, because the standard bearer of a Roman unit wore an animal fur on official occasions, in this case this would have been the fur of a predatory cat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Julius_Abdes_Pantera
Quite an interesting read
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; the God of Isaiah. The One who's theonym is assumed to be יהוה ; according to the old texts. 'Eolhim' or Κύριος, as he was referred by the early Christians.
There is no "which one" for there's only One worthy of the title. And by His title alone you may refer to Him.
>Which one?
Pagans really have a hard time trying to understand the concept of the monotheistic God. For them, the word "God" always refers to mythological personifications of nature phenomena.
Panthera wasn't Italian, he was a native of Sidon who acquired Roman citizenship as a reward for his service in the legions. His ethnicity might be Levantine/Greek
I really wouldn't trust anything the Talmud has to say about Jesus honestly. On the other hand, the whole Jesus is in a pot of boiling shit/Nero converted to Judaism thing is pretty funny.
Black and White nationalists can rejoice. Since Roman soldiers were recruited from all over the world, there's an ever so slim chance that a white or black man was Jesus' father.
PTAHRA took Mary from Joseph the same way David took Bathsheba from Uriah. Except, Joseph was in on it for the sake of hiding his sons hereditary right from Herod, - whom had killed infants with the specific intent of stopping the rumored lineage of Ptahra,- which would've been not only senior to his petty region, but potentially senior above Rome.
israelites (anti-ankh israelites) and patriarchs (anti-egyptian romans) do not like this. They are the synagogue of satan,- Seth.
>origen
are you even trying? the panthera narrative was first by israelites in the Talmud. celsus detested israelites.
only way to dismiss panthera being jesus's dad is lack of evidence. the response of an apologist claiming a holy ghost impregnated mary isn't a counter argument.
the ironic thing is that if we didn't have origen response we would have never known that the panthera narrative existed before the talmud. thanks christcucks!
> the panthera narrative was first by israelites in the Talmud. celsus detested israelites. >the ironic thing is that if we didn't have origen response we would have never known that the panthera narrative existed before the talmud.
So which is it gay? The Talmud is the origin of the story or Celsus is the origin? > the response of an apologist claiming a holy ghost impregnated mary isn't a counter argument.
Well, it predates Celsus and the Talmud for starters.
>So which is it gay? The Talmud is the origin of the story or Celsus is the origin?
Origen's response to celsus is the oldest source that mentions Panthera being jesus's father. if that source didn't exist/was lost then we would only have the jesus story in the talmud which would have been easily dismissed as israeli fabrication written 500 years later >Well, it predates Celsus and the Talmud for starters.
i am talking about actual history, not theology. no one is going to believe in miracles that defy nature and logic because an old piece of paper says so. it's either Joseph, Panthera or some other person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Panthera deal is obvious an obvious anti-christian smear to mock the virgin birth. Jesus's father was quite obviously Joseph, as the virgin birth wasn't even something the first christians believed, and it's not in our oldest gospel, Mark.
>israelites write blasphemy against Jesus because they want to justify/keep their old backwards traditions >israelites become powerful in the 20th century >Unironically hate everyone who isnt a israelite, >Spread atheism into the masses because capitalistic debt slavery is easier without strong christian values/demonization of excessive usury. >israelites mobilize their new atheists slaves with subjectivism and other moronic nonsense. >The same slaves start using israelite theology to defame god. >Atheists basically follow like theology and morality but without the ethnocentrism/culture, and theistic notion.
How can you say cuckstianity stands up to the israelites when the bible orders you to do stupid shit like render unto caesar and sell all your possessions. Literally "you will own nothing and you'll be happy" tier shit. cuckstianity is the final form of judaism.
as a white nationalist christian i don't know whether i want jesus to be an immaculate palestinian or a bastard roman
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>white
>nationalist
>christian
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
As a catholic I can say that I'm against white nationalism because it's not universal (katholikos, in greek, if I'm not mistaken)
why would you out yourself like this moron, hold your problematic political beliefs in silence like the rest of us.
>t. social work with refugees at day, NatSoc utopia in my dreams at night.
>white nationalist christian
so... an ugly incel teenager who will never touch a woman if he keeps up his moronation
nice projection basedboy
he might be a creepy incel in whatever ghetto or liberal college town you are from where you'd scoff at his clothing and haircut, spit venom and ostracize him, but I'm sure he fits in among fundies, it is funny how delusional you people are
Yeah I'm sure these people procreated to preserve the white race and the glory of Christendom and they're not normies who'd ostracize you for your opinions on Black folk and israelites.
>look at these heckin wholesome aryaninos LITERALLY ME
lol just lmao
I live in North Louisiana, the fundies go out of their way to try and reenact The Blindside by adopting black kids.
Luke 12:32
“Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Luke 12:32
“Do not fear, little flock, for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
>as a white nationalist christian
There's no way this is genuine.
Cringe yet redpilled
You would want the one not invented later by christkillers
How would jesus be a "palestinian"? that nationality was invented 60 years ago, jesus did not speak arabic and was not a muslim or christian
>that nationality was invented 60 years ago
judea was called Palaestina by romans after second israeli war. our favorite twinklover did it to spite israelites. Palaestina is based on philistines.
Let me save you some time. This phase will end in a year or so, there will be a secondary transition page where you'll be a racist femboy. Eventually you'll grow out of it and look back at the political larping, and cringe deeply. Hopefully this lets you skip a few steps
Thank you for the insights anon
Do Americans really?
Same bro. Same.
Why?
>dammit Panthera, that beer is warm! Go get me another one!
Nice
The first mention of Panthera comes from the second century. On the other hand, the gospels were completed at the end of the first century, so the immaculate conception was attested before Panthera.
>On the other hand, the gospels were completed at the end of the first century, so the immaculate conception was attested before Panthera.
The Immaculate conception is not the virgin birth of Jesus.
>inmaculate
>conception
Actually its a great metal band
>great
Is it?
a band so great its guitarist died for our sins
When someone tells you a woman spontaneously had a child without having sex, the most logical thing to do is assume she cucked her husband. I don't understand how credulous you have to be to believe the Immaculate Conception story.
Yeah, you have to be a moron to believe that shit. It's almost as bad as oh we both have white skin and look how dark the babies skin is. Mmmm.
Yeah well in ancient egypt every pharaoh was a descendent of a God so I don't think it would be too out of place for the Messiah to be conceived this way.
The doctrine of Immaculate Conception has nothing to do with the Virgin Birth of Jesus.
"Immaculate Conception" means that Mary, mother of Jesus, was born without Original Sin, permitting God in human form to be born from her flesh. She had a fully human father that copulated with her fully human mother; not a virgin birth.
The Virgin Birth doctrine concerns the declaration of faith that Jesus (Yeshua ben Yusuf) was conceived physically in Mary's womb directly by the Holy Spirit without physical copulation as the Son of God.
Mary's Perpetual Virginity is the dogma that Mary never carnally knew a man in her life at any point before or after the birth of Jesus. I personally find that a lot less believable than a virgin birth.
>was born without Original Sin, permitting God in human form to be born from her flesh.
that is the most moronic doctrine i've ever heard, only behind the buraq. is the christian god really that weak
The supposition is that if God were to enter a body in the state of Sin, He would destroy the body by entering it.
Which of coarse violates all common sense. Each and every single one of us has 1 father and mother. But that's religion. It simply makes no sense.
>There was a Panthera in Germany
>This means that he was the father of Jesus in Galilee
Do trannies really think that this is a good argument?
Panthera is from Sidon, Phoenicia, rather close to where Jesus lived
>The name Pantera is Greek, although it appears in Latin in the inscription. It was perhaps his last name, and means panther.[3] The names Tiberius Julius are acquired names and were probably given to him in recognition of serving in the Roman army as he obtained Roman citizenship on his honorable discharge from the Legion.[3] The name Abd in Phoenician means "servant of", and is most likely short for Eshmoun/Eshmun, a Phoenician god of healing and the tutelary god of Sidon. Pantera was from Sidonia, which is identified with Sidon in Phoenicia, and joined the Cohors I Sagittariorum (first cohort of archers).[3]
>Pantera is not an unusual name, and its use goes back at least to the 2nd century.[5] Prior to the end of the 19th century, at various times in history scholars had hypothesized that the name Pantera was an uncommon or even a fabricated name, but in 1891 French archaeologist C. S. Clermont-Ganneau showed that it was a name that was in use in Judaea by other people and Adolf Deissmann later showed with certainty that it was a common name at the time, and that it was especially common among Roman soldiers,[3][7][1] which would also fit the name Pantera, because the standard bearer of a Roman unit wore an animal fur on official occasions, in this case this would have been the fur of a predatory cat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiberius_Julius_Abdes_Pantera
Quite an interesting read
>Who was Jesus' real father
God.
>God
Which one? Think more deeply in this and don't give me the idiotic response of..."The One True Gawd!!!". ...or anything similar.
>Which one?
>no not that one
The God of the Bible, the Christian God.
The other "gods" are just demons.
That is not a good response. That is a blind sheeple response.
what the frick do wanna hear, Krishna? obviously it's the one God. You are seriously deluded.
Bythos, the highest god above all gods who can't even be named god because He is beyond that.
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; the God of Isaiah. The One who's theonym is assumed to be יהוה ; according to the old texts. 'Eolhim' or Κύριος, as he was referred by the early Christians.
There is no "which one" for there's only One worthy of the title. And by His title alone you may refer to Him.
>Eolhim
Elohim*
אלהים
>Which one?
Pagans really have a hard time trying to understand the concept of the monotheistic God. For them, the word "God" always refers to mythological personifications of nature phenomena.
So Panthera is god?
>Who was Jesus' real father
...Joseph?
Jesus didn't exist.
Fricking idiot OP, that pantera didn't live when Jesus lived.
>I didn't live for a good part of my fathers life so he cant be my father
wat
>Jesus was white all along
They lied to us, bros.
>white
italian-israeli bastard
i'm still guessing he was swarthy
it's obviously some anti-christian propaganda, pretty interesting tho
>He was italian-israeli
So does that mean... uh oh bros
Underrated
Panthera wasn't Italian, he was a native of Sidon who acquired Roman citizenship as a reward for his service in the legions. His ethnicity might be Levantine/Greek
>swarthy
A tan swede can be "swarthy" that means nothing
>source?
>Celsus: It was revealed to me in a dream
>guy who despises christianity makes a completely unsubstantiated claim an in attempt to bring insult
>basedboys eat it up
>the eternal Christcuck newbie
I really wouldn't trust anything the Talmud has to say about Jesus honestly. On the other hand, the whole Jesus is in a pot of boiling shit/Nero converted to Judaism thing is pretty funny.
why did you censor the word "talmud"?
Black and White nationalists can rejoice. Since Roman soldiers were recruited from all over the world, there's an ever so slim chance that a white or black man was Jesus' father.
>black roman soldier
>in the republican era
>for some reason stationed in the Levant
Republican era?
Jesus was born during the reign of Augustus anon.
>Talmudic bullshit
>wrong book goyim!
Jesus is the son of God, and gods name is Ra. We bless Ra's lineage, by saying Amen. Jesus was a royal, by law.
PTAHRA took Mary from Joseph the same way David took Bathsheba from Uriah. Except, Joseph was in on it for the sake of hiding his sons hereditary right from Herod, - whom had killed infants with the specific intent of stopping the rumored lineage of Ptahra,- which would've been not only senior to his petty region, but potentially senior above Rome.
israelites (anti-ankh israelites) and patriarchs (anti-egyptian romans) do not like this. They are the synagogue of satan,- Seth.
...why is she depicted pale?
She was a israelite(an actual, Semitic israelite)
t. golem
>israelite worshiper calling you israelite's pawn
el oh el, remember to turn the other cheek, cuck
Cope
>origen
are you even trying? the panthera narrative was first by israelites in the Talmud. celsus detested israelites.
only way to dismiss panthera being jesus's dad is lack of evidence. the response of an apologist claiming a holy ghost impregnated mary isn't a counter argument.
the ironic thing is that if we didn't have origen response we would have never known that the panthera narrative existed before the talmud. thanks christcucks!
> the panthera narrative was first by israelites in the Talmud. celsus detested israelites.
>the ironic thing is that if we didn't have origen response we would have never known that the panthera narrative existed before the talmud.
So which is it gay? The Talmud is the origin of the story or Celsus is the origin?
> the response of an apologist claiming a holy ghost impregnated mary isn't a counter argument.
Well, it predates Celsus and the Talmud for starters.
>So which is it gay? The Talmud is the origin of the story or Celsus is the origin?
Origen's response to celsus is the oldest source that mentions Panthera being jesus's father. if that source didn't exist/was lost then we would only have the jesus story in the talmud which would have been easily dismissed as israeli fabrication written 500 years later
>Well, it predates Celsus and the Talmud for starters.
i am talking about actual history, not theology. no one is going to believe in miracles that defy nature and logic because an old piece of paper says so. it's either Joseph, Panthera or some other person.
The Panthera deal is obvious an obvious anti-christian smear to mock the virgin birth. Jesus's father was quite obviously Joseph, as the virgin birth wasn't even something the first christians believed, and it's not in our oldest gospel, Mark.
Proofs?
Jesus's father was a Centurion, from the Jerusalem Garrison, by the name of Naughtius Maximus.
>israelites write blasphemy against Jesus because they want to justify/keep their old backwards traditions
>israelites become powerful in the 20th century
>Unironically hate everyone who isnt a israelite,
>Spread atheism into the masses because capitalistic debt slavery is easier without strong christian values/demonization of excessive usury.
>israelites mobilize their new atheists slaves with subjectivism and other moronic nonsense.
>The same slaves start using israelite theology to defame god.
>Atheists basically follow like theology and morality but without the ethnocentrism/culture, and theistic notion.
How can you say cuckstianity stands up to the israelites when the bible orders you to do stupid shit like render unto caesar and sell all your possessions. Literally "you will own nothing and you'll be happy" tier shit. cuckstianity is the final form of judaism.
Old fake story
ridiculous
Achtually it was naughtius maximus a centurion in the jerusalem garrison.
lol
how could infinity have a finite body?
christcucks btfo
>jews
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If my mother had wheels she would've been a bike.