holy frick this is dog shit, had to drop it. I can't believe a grown man wrote this seriously. It's like a teenage boys fantasy about the ultimate "badass" not to mention full of juvenile vulgarities that only a 15 year old boy would think is truly rebellious in the 90s lol.
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that's the point moron
>ohh its really not glorifying and romanticizing because uhhh you should actuallly look at it from a feminist perspective
I hate gays like this just admit you are into the shit you write like bret easton ellis did said he actually felt like patrick bateman at the time he wrote it
You really want to prove yourself the biggest moron possible. The ultimate bad ass quality is the character's delusion and being as pathetic as he is that delusion is pretty much a childish idealization of a bad ass His execution of this aspect is one of the few good things about the book, thematically kinda ehh and just pandering to office drones who have lived their lives playing the game.
We get it, you didn't read it and just read a wiki summary.
why assign "thing good" and "thing bad" to the book itself like a 5 year old? the narrator creates Durden to escape his reality, but his fantasy ends up growing into a similarly oppressive reality. he spends the book going from one opposite to the other which is mirrored in him first going to those seminars to cry and then creating the opposite which is fight club, which serves as the same thing. its a story about opposites becoming each other. the structure is well thought out and each chapter is entertaining on its own, probably having to do with it being separate short stories formerly. the minimal and consciously repetitive prose has good rhythm.
>thematically kinda ehh and just pandering to office drones who have lived their lives playing the game.
its much more universal than that.
>filtered by beginner lit
ngmi. The violence is ironic (i.e. destroy the body to reclaim it) and the Fight Club/Project Mayhem is a cult (i.e. sublimate whatever identity you may have to a nihilistic group that just wants to destroy).
Imagine being filtered by fricking Fight Club. Kek.
Not a fan of the book or Palahniuk but that is the point and you would have found that out if you finished it.
The book is incredible and the pacing is 10/10. His other work sucks though
>the pacing is 10/10
This. The way he wrote the book is remarkable. He does a lot with very little. It's almost minimalist in its construction. Little exposition, simple sentences, short chapters, and he manages to tell a fairly complex story quite quickly.
I read Rant recently, and thought it was pretty fun. Didn't care for the "twist" though.
>fun
opinion dropped into the trash
So what's a good book to you?
>I am le different from the other zoomers because I don't identify with le gigachad trad memes
couple weeks and you'll be back to writing essays, kiddo
Drop it? It's like 100 pages, literally a one afternoon read
Why are there 2 fight club threads open? Can't you Durden posters stick to one thread?
>I am anon's pedantic remarks
>I am anons seething forehead vein
Cope harder moron
I used to love it when I was an angsty teenager and I think it's a bit childish today. I think this may be the effect the writer wanted.
>the boondock saints effect
I couldn't take this book's prose seriously. I read the first few sentences and then threw it in the bin. It was just a natural revulsion. I worry it might've been premature because I really enjoyed the movie, I related to the plot and I also like both the novel and movie of American Psycho. I listened to the Fight Club soundtrack on repeat for a period. But apparently he wrote this novel while listening to Pablo Honey and The Downward Spiral, the thought of which makes me want to throw up. I don't particularly hate those albums but I think I have higher standards for what a book should aspire to be.
On a side note: how weird is it that the two modern cult myths of masculinity and alienation from materialistic culture were written by two semi-closeted gay men?
>how weird is it that the two modern cult myths of masculinity and alienation from materialistic culture were written by two semi-closeted gay men?
Look at what you just wrote. That's not weird at all. I think every gay man or boy struggles with it.
Gay men are hyperfixated on masculinity and materialistic culture, so it kinda follows that (some) authors jaded by this would stem from the gay community.
or maybe only people are willing to listen if a gay says it
'um it's actually just edgy and childish' is perhaps the most midwit redditor take imaginable, someone who has never had an original thought in their life. Almost as bad as people who say that it's actually criticising the views and it's actually about the dangers of toxic masculinity or whatever, despite the author having defended Tyler's views.
Filtered.
I watched the movie and it was moronic. Didn't even bother with the book
I liked the part that tells you how to make bombs in sonic mania