Honestly is he worth reading? I tried skipping him and going straight to C.G. Jung but didn't understand shit

Honestly is he worth reading? I tried skipping him and going straight to C.G. Jung but didn't understand shit

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  1. 2 years ago
    Sage

    There's already a JP containment thread up tbh

    [...]

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would go straight to Ragnar Redbeard. Peterstein is a bit gay bth.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Start with Piaget

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No. Read Campbell before you read Peterson.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where did you start with Jung? I don't think he's that hard to get into, but I guess that depends on which of his writings you started with. I would recommend Man and His Symbols, as Jung wrote that books specifically as an entry point into his thoughts for the general reader.

    Having some context into Jung might also help, in which case Jordan Peterson's lectures on him might be helpful.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >We'll see who cancels who
    I thought the whole benzo debacle was peak Peterson, but I see this train has no breaks. And he was just a guy who had good advice for young confused men

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      When JP started getting popular I remember watching a bunch of his interviews and lectures and finding them worthwhile and important against the woke nonsense. He still has some valid points for sure. Then you watch his recent stuff and just cringe. It's weird man. Did they MK Ultra him in Russia or something?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Calling others out for nonsense doesn't mean you actually have anything worthwhile to say yourself

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        No, he was working for globohomosexual from the very beginning. Controlled opposition to de-radicalize.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's right. He worked at the UN and Harvard before U of T. He's a shill through and through. Even his life advice is shit. He says some basic common sense stuff like how being a man is a necessity, which shouldn't even have to be said but here we are, and then he goes off the rails. He's only a symptom of a destroyed civilization. If it were not for the normalization of single motherhood, he would not exist.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The whole benzo debacle probably destroyed him financially so he had to sell out to the Daily Wire crowd

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He was always part of that crowd

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            But he significantly amped up his political commentary from around 2019 onwards, especially on things that weren't even tangential to either his field or to the incident that brought him to fame.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >benzo debacle
          Extreme withdrawal from a doctor-prescribed medication.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            so you know he has his shit together!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Liberals hate him because he is critical of their bullshit, trannies hate him because he won't accept delusions as reality, racists hate him because he isn't an identitarian, and pseuds hate him because he's a media figure. You will never accomplish anything on the level of even just one of those things listed above.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            lmao what are you his mom?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >REEEEEE
            Former student. But at least you didn't go with "YOU THINK HE YOUR DAD" like most morons.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            don't forget to buy a rug lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He's more accomplished than you will ever be (

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Liberals hate him because he is critical of their bullshit, trannies hate him because he won't accept delusions as reality, racists hate him because he isn't an identitarian, and pseuds hate him because he's a media figure. You will never accomplish anything on the level of even just one of those things listed above.

            ). Cope.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you don't know me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Former student
            yep, there it is, the dynamic of self-identification and emotional manipulation that Petersonian acolytes are trapped in. go wash your dick.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >racists hate him because he isn't an identitarian
            His stances fit well with being against civil rights acts that say businesses should serve everyone regardless of race, and he backs off and cowards when someone brings it up to him

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And yet for all these accomplishments a random comedian destroyed his political worldview by simply point out that he's both for the civil rights movement and also for the right of business owners to serve whatever customers they wish (but not if they're black)

            His stance is that identitarianism is a horrendous ideology and governments using the force of law to mandate thought is the antithesis of democratic order. He's right. Simple as.
            >civil rights movement
            We don't have state-sanctioned segregation anymore so that's a false equivalency. In reality, radical ideologues are attacking the institutions of democracy under the guise of having the moral high ground. Just look at the hyperbole surrounding the SCOTUS decision on Roe v. Wade--Democrats are characterizing one of the three pillars of American Democracy as "radical and extremist" and encouraged the intimidation of justices to the point that one of them came close to being assassinated. You can even look at the Trudeau government enacting dictatorial powers over a bunch of truckers with a bouncy castle. Talk about "civil rights" when you can square those circles.

            you don't know me

            I don't need to.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >We don't have state-sanctioned segregation
            Yeah, and private individual-sanctioned segregation isn't allowed either. Yet Peterson the individualist is in the "don't bake the cake" camp. Unless it's about race. Then a racist bar owner has to let in black patrons.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            discriminating based on race is bad lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Either a business owner can choose which patrons to serve, or he can't. Peterson wants to have it both ways: don't bake the cake if you're a Christian baker, but do let in black patrons if you're a racist. And if you do, then the state has the right to punish you for this. He's literally contradicting himself.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            not on race he can't, no

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah you don't get to make random exceptions that are convenient because it fits your particular tastes. If a Christian baker can discriminate, then so can a racist. There is no qualitative differences except your subjective judgment that discrimination based on race is somehow worse than discrimination based on sexual preference.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it's not a taste it's being a decent human being. who are you to comment on God's creation like that?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            kys

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Again, that's a false equivalency and a distraction away from Peterson's actual position. There is no widespread ostracization of homosexuals that entails the government setting precedent through the curtailment of rights and mandating of thought. It's a clumsy power grab that has already done extreme damage to public trust and the institutions of government. Aside, do you really think homosexuals not being able to buy a cake is an example of why government-mandated speech is necessary, especially when they could easily obtain a cake from some other bakery and probably get a discount on it? Give me a break.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            petardson is a dummy anyway

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            See

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Simple as. I don't care if he filmed one video when his office happened to be cluttered years ago. Cope.

            . He's accomplished a lot more than you ever will and can speak from a level of authority and experience that you will never achieve. Simple as.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            see

            you don't know me

            >do you really think homosexuals not being able to buy a cake is an example of why government-mandated speech is necessary, especially when they could easily obtain a cake from some other bakery and probably get a discount on it?
            Peterson certainly seems to believe that government-mandated forced association with people you don't like is justified given that he plainly admits the civil rights movement (desegregation) was a good thing. Do you honestly think Peterson would agree with a hypothetical society where, of their own volition, nearly every restaurant and bar started to ban blacks? They can go to the 1% of bars that still allow blacks! (And before you reply something like "that would never happen", it's basically how America worked before forced desegregation)

            [...]
            Completely irrelevant

            no, it's very relevant

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you don't know me
            Because you're unimportant. This

            See [...]. He's accomplished a lot more than you ever will and can speak from a level of authority and experience that you will never achieve. Simple as.

            .

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I follow the herd!

            OK

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I follow the herd.
            Keep repeating "her penis" into the mirror.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >uh shit how would /misc/ respond in this situation?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >do you really think homosexuals not being able to buy a cake is an example of why government-mandated speech is necessary, especially when they could easily obtain a cake from some other bakery and probably get a discount on it?
            Peterson certainly seems to believe that government-mandated forced association with people you don't like is justified given that he plainly admits the civil rights movement (desegregation) was a good thing. Do you honestly think Peterson would agree with a hypothetical society where, of their own volition, nearly every restaurant and bar started to ban blacks? They can go to the 1% of bars that still allow blacks! (And before you reply something like "that would never happen", it's basically how America worked before forced desegregation)

            it's not a taste it's being a decent human being. who are you to comment on God's creation like that?

            Completely irrelevant

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >civil rights movement
            I already explained why this is a false equivalency ("We don't have state-sanctioned segregation anymore..."

            [...]
            His stance is that identitarianism is a horrendous ideology and governments using the force of law to mandate thought is the antithesis of democratic order. He's right. Simple as.
            >civil rights movement
            We don't have state-sanctioned segregation anymore so that's a false equivalency. In reality, radical ideologues are attacking the institutions of democracy under the guise of having the moral high ground. Just look at the hyperbole surrounding the SCOTUS decision on Roe v. Wade--Democrats are characterizing one of the three pillars of American Democracy as "radical and extremist" and encouraged the intimidation of justices to the point that one of them came close to being assassinated. You can even look at the Trudeau government enacting dictatorial powers over a bunch of truckers with a bouncy castle. Talk about "civil rights" when you can square those circles.
            [...]
            I don't need to.

            )
            >Peterson would agree with a hypothetical society
            You're giving a false hypothetical instead of dealing with the actual point Peterson is making: the government shouldn't be mandating thought and speech as doing such is the anthesis of a free and open society.
            > before you reply something like
            I explained why it's a distraction and a false equivalency above. We don't have state-sanctioned segregation and you're arguing that we should have state-enforced speech. Basically, you're arguing for intellectual segregation while imagining a boogeyman that doesn't exist.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You're the one who keeps mentioning "freedom of speech" and "government mandated speech" as if I ever mentioned those things. I merely pointed out that Peterson is a hypocrite.
            >Christian bakers can refuse to service homosexuals
            >racist bakers can't refuse to service blacks

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I merely pointed out that Peterson is a hypocrite.
            I pointed out why the civil rights movement from over half a century ago is a false equivalency and a distraction from his main point. You can't address the actual point of what he's saying so you keep trying to slide and reassert your example is relevant while not responding to the criticism of it. You're a moron.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Peterson's still a hypocrite

            ah the fruits of peterson's stewardship

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Imagine cherry-picking an image that's already several years old as if that sets a precedent that undermines everything else he's ever done. Pathetic.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            imagine throwing away your career to deal in twitter hysterics

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Throwing away his career? Holy cope.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            aren't we all?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you don't know me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >a distraction from his main point
            You don't get to decide what constitutes a "distraction" and what constitutes an intellectual contradiction that invalidates the rest of their worldview. Peterson the staunch individualist suddenly changes his tune when it's about white racists. You're the moron for thinking you can just talk about any other random topic during a discussion and pretending the actual discussion is about this random thing you just pulled out of your ass that's irrelevant to what we're talking about and then declaring victory

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I pointed out why it isn't a contradiction and why it's a slide. You haven't answered those criticisms. Again, the point is state-mandated speech and state authority over the dissemination of information. We aren't in 1950s Georgia, anon. You're moronic.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >the point is state-mandated speech and state authority over the dissemination of information
            You made that the point while nowhere in my posts did I ever mention this. Just admit that your daddy is a hypocrite. He himself couldn't deal with being confronted with this flaw in his reasoning and you can't either
            >I want to talk about Peterson defending government-forced desegregation
            >well, I want to talk about the Supreme Court! So you're a moron!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >You made that the point while nowhere in my posts did I ever mention this.
            No shit, moron. The point is that you fail to address this and distract with a counter-example that isn't relevant. The point is that you're ignoring the central basis of what he says in order to force a hypothetical that I've already offered criticism toward (and you've failed to address). Context is important. We aren't living in the southern US circa 1960. There's more to what he's saying than a cherry-picked example of homosexuals trying to buy a cake 5 years ago. The point of what he's saying is that draconian laws that undermine the fundamental rights and liberties of individuals in the name of false utopia are the antithesis of the free and open society that has allowed us to come this far. Simple as.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ah the fruits of peterson's stewardship

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            Simple as. I don't care if he filmed one video when his office happened to be cluttered years ago. Cope.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            QQ psychology isn't even a real science anyway

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Tell that to the patients whose lives he improved, pseud.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Should have stayed in his lane lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >internationally famous best selling author selling out lecture halls all over the world
            Cope.

            >uh shit how would /misc/ respond in this situation?

            Oh no! Not /misc/?!?! Is /misc/ ITT with us?!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            wojacks, very convincing

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            millions of flies can't be wrong!

            Whoops, I used the wrong one. Keep crying about /misc/.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            keep crying because i besmirched your e-daddy lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            See

            >REEEEEE
            Former student. But at least you didn't go with "YOU THINK HE YOUR DAD" like most morons.

            . Get some new material.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            maybe stop simping for morans first

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            millions of flies can't be wrong!

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And yet for all these accomplishments a random comedian destroyed his political worldview by simply point out that he's both for the civil rights movement and also for the right of business owners to serve whatever customers they wish (but not if they're black)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Literally no source for any of the shit you made up. He was always a loser ideologue, dragging down Jung's name with him.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >no source
            Extreme cope.

            repeat after me: it's not. an. argument.

            moron.

            >Former student
            yep, there it is, the dynamic of self-identification and emotional manipulation that Petersonian acolytes are trapped in. go wash your dick.

            Boring. Come up with something new. Here's some OC for you.

            Peterson is far from the only person calling out identitarianism and Trudeau. Why do you act like his opinions are something unheard of? They are barely controversial.
            But go ahead and copy paste your list one more time, shill.

            >But go ahead and copy paste your list one more time
            Sure. It seems to be triggering the pseuds/trannies.

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            He's neither the single nor the primary author for the vast majority of that material. Given authorship in the academy is a dog and pony show, it's entirely possible he wrote almost none of that material.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >having your shit together grants you immunity to medical addiction

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            it would have in this case, since if he had his shit together he wouldn't have needed the medication in the first place

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            how postmodern of you

            He was prescribed medication by a doctor and had a negative reaction to it. The fact you have to spin it as if it's a character-defining drug addiction, while paying no heed to the reasons why he'd be prescribed such medication and intentionally ignoring the laundry list of accomplishments he's made throughout his life, says more about the level that his detractors operate on than it does anything negative about him. He's based. Simple as.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >implying it's not

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            how postmodern of you

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    he's gone full schizo recently.
    Just watch one of his recent videos on youtube and compare it to his old ones
    He's a self-centered manipulating butthole now. He used to be humble and his opinions were filled with integrity and authenticity.
    Now he is literally in ful manlet rage while spouting his incel opinions (even if he is right about women not being men and men not being women)

    talk about a fall from grace

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's sad to watch. His wealth and fame's totally destroyed him. He's the public intellectual equivalent of a lottery winner who ends up turning their boon into their life's biggest problem. He's literally been braindamaged from his success.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >>It's sad to watch. His wealth and fame's totally destroyed him.
        perterson was a cuck whining his wife died lol, and that's from the beginning

        but atheist ''men'' are so desperate for a spiritual daddy they didnt even care lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      When JP started getting popular I remember watching a bunch of his interviews and lectures and finding them worthwhile and important against the woke nonsense. He still has some valid points for sure. Then you watch his recent stuff and just cringe. It's weird man. Did they MK Ultra him in Russia or something?

      Long time fan but I've unsubscribed from his Youtube this week. Pretty much done with the guy now. He's served his purpose. When he stays in his lane and sticks to clinical psychology and Jungian interpretations of religion/myth, then he's a genuinely inspiring and captivating speaker. As far as I'm concerned he's gone full grift now and is only out for more money. He regularly makes a fool of himself these days but has enough acolytes now to keep the money rolling in.

      That's how I feel too. He had something useful to say when he got famous back in 2017 or whenever it was, but now he is just a shameless grifter. He doesn't have anything more to add to any discussion and is just milking his fans, trying to stay relevant by being inflammatory.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >2017
        Oh yeah. Everything since then has just been great and it's no longer necessary to have a high-profile media figure calling bullshit on identitarianism and the attacks on the institutions that have maintained Western democracy. It's not like Trudeau set a precedent for enacting dictatorial powers over nothing and the media/big tech is suppressing information about POTUS and mischaracterizing news items for the sake of those in power.

        >implying it's not

        >It just is though!
        Great argument:
        >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
        >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
        >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
        >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
        >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
        >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
        Cope.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          appeal to authority

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >NO! You can't list the reasons he has credibility and standing! That's an appeal to authority! Never mind it's in response to an ad hominem mischaracterizing medication withdrawal as drug addiction and posting that this one thing defines Peterson!
            Cope moron.

            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            You will never achieve a single thing in any one area on par with any of Peterson's accomplishments. Simple as.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you probably shouldn't kvetch over arguments and then follow up with a logical fallacy, all I'm saying...

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Pointing out a list of various accomplishments that span over multiple decades as a counterpoint to an attempt to repudiate a subject based on an ad hominem that isn't even grounded in fact isn't a logical fallacy, moron. You don't even know what an appeal to authority looks like.
            >Peterson is a clinical psychologist therefore everything he says about political issues is correct.
            That's an appeal to authority. It would also still be an appeal to authority if I were to substitute "political issues" with "clinical psychology."
            >You mischaracterize Peterson as a drug addict and therefore unworthy of his position as a media figure but [see below] over multiple decades. He has earned his credibility.
            This isn't an appeal to authority. We're specifically discussing his standing/merit as a public figure. I'm not making the assertion that he's absolutely correct in everything he says or does based solely on his accomplishments. I am saying that his record over multiple decades does lend him AUTHORITY above and beyond what you yourself will ever be able to attain. (You don't even know how informal fallacies work, moron).

            Again:
            >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
            >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
            >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
            >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
            >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
            >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world
            What have you done? kek

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            repeat after me: it's not. an. argument.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            he may not be a drugs addict but he's still a fricking idiot who crumbles at the sight of a glass of apple juice lol

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Peterson is far from the only person calling out identitarianism and Trudeau. Why do you act like his opinions are something unheard of? They are barely controversial.
          But go ahead and copy paste your list one more time, shill.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Rightoids honestly believe he just woke up and became insane one morning. No one has the intellectual tools to see that the dumb mythology you create to justify your bigotry is going to instantly collapse the minute you achieve any more fame than the average podcast guest. And yeah, If that happens to you and you're too much of a wienery moron to notice, you're going to fall into denial and go insane just as Jordon has. That is 100% consistent with his behavior.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Long time fan but I've unsubscribed from his Youtube this week. Pretty much done with the guy now. He's served his purpose. When he stays in his lane and sticks to clinical psychology and Jungian interpretations of religion/myth, then he's a genuinely inspiring and captivating speaker. As far as I'm concerned he's gone full grift now and is only out for more money. He regularly makes a fool of himself these days but has enough acolytes now to keep the money rolling in.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >is he worth reading
    No. Nor is Jung. They're both just obscurantist hucksters trying to make you feel good about living impotent lives of masturbatory fantasy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I despise how much wanking people give to Jung. He's the least helpful way to understand mythology.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody reads Jung to understand mythology what the frick

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He has a new show on Ben Shapiro's online streaming service, where he apparently gets angry about trannies even more than he used to and makes no references to clinical psychology.

    He's found something lucrative, at least.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Peterstein is already worth more than 6 figures. The fact that he isnt retiring means that he is a convicted ideologue. UN agenda21.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >convicted ideologue
        He is just the case study narcissist. Imagine being a marginalized loser all your life and suddenly have everybody either worshiping or hating your guts. Makes you feel important. Fills that void better than any drug ever will.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >He started by making really vague statements about how the climate was fake or something.
          He's literally paid by oil lobbyists now.
          >More recently he was suggesting that Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine was "woke."
          He's your typical pandering conservative grifter that people eat up, complete with being paid by big oil and always cowardly beating around the bush. Notice how you said he gave vague statements instead of just outright saying, that's his modus operandi and a lot of people eat it up because they fetishize aesthetic moderates.
          I'm sure he gave a lot of guys some good advice, but after you put on a suit just to make a video to complain about your twitter ban for 20 minutes, it's time to move on.

          >Treat yourself like you are someone you are responsible for helping
          Guess he's a misanthrope
          >Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
          Guess he likes grifting single mothers
          >Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
          Lol
          >Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient).
          Lmao
          >Be precise in your speech
          Speech patterns like a demented old wingbat

          Look at these leftoid midwits. Attacking the Peterstein not realizing he is one of the best opponents to have, bc he's paid and guided by the same people that pay for rainbow porn on your TV, books, and cinema.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not attacking him from a leftist perspective, I'm attacking him because it's like you said, he's a certified zogbot

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        More than 7 figures actually. Maybe even more than 8 by now.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hugoesque

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I remember trying to watch the post-coma Joe Rogan interview and had to turn it off early on. He started by making really vague statements about how the climate was fake or something. More recently he was suggesting that Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine was "woke." The man seems to just be telling his core audience what he thinks they want to hear. Which is a real shame, because the older stuff was actually interesting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >He started by making really vague statements about how the climate was fake or something.
      He's literally paid by oil lobbyists now.
      >More recently he was suggesting that Russia invaded Ukraine because Ukraine was "woke."
      He's your typical pandering conservative grifter that people eat up, complete with being paid by big oil and always cowardly beating around the bush. Notice how you said he gave vague statements instead of just outright saying, that's his modus operandi and a lot of people eat it up because they fetishize aesthetic moderates.
      I'm sure he gave a lot of guys some good advice, but after you put on a suit just to make a video to complain about your twitter ban for 20 minutes, it's time to move on.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >He's literally paid by oil lobbyists now.
        source?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I might've been wrong, he just reads and repeats books written by Exxon funded
          https://www.desmog.com/2022/01/28/jordan-petersons-climate-expert-is-science-denier-funded-by-oil-backed-think-tank/
          Though he did rub arms with Texan oil billionaires, so who he does lean towards them
          https://torontolife.com/city/jordan-petersons-weird-family-empire/

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            so nothing. remind me not to treat anything you say seriously.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What do you think of

            >"I worked with the UN committee that wrote the secretary general's report on sustainable development"
            Peterson on Rogan's podcast some months ago.
            Yup, he's definitely being paid and has a bigger effect than he should
            [...]
            Shut up homosexual

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >"I worked with the UN committee that wrote the secretary general's report on sustainable development"
            Peterson on Rogan's podcast some months ago.
            Yup, he's definitely being paid and has a bigger effect than he should

            [...]
            [...]
            Look at these leftoid midwits. Attacking the Peterstein not realizing he is one of the best opponents to have, bc he's paid and guided by the same people that pay for rainbow porn on your TV, books, and cinema.

            Shut up homosexual

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Dailly

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Treat yourself like you are someone you are responsible for helping
    Guess he's a misanthrope
    >Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them
    Guess he likes grifting single mothers
    >Set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world
    Lol
    >Pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient).
    Lmao
    >Be precise in your speech
    Speech patterns like a demented old wingbat

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    he doesn't even follow his OWN FRICKING ADVICE

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    мéтa

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    feriante

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve read King Warrior Magician Lover recently and it’s based off of Jung’s work. Having never read Jung before it was really easy to follow and interesting.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Da'esh

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    JP is worth reading if you are a middle/upper class, college educated, anime-watching American dude with a bad diet who doesn't feel quite motivated.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The dregs of society

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    坎卢普斯

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There is no alpha in reading him

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He went on someone else's youtube show recently and he acted like such a humongous child trying to change the subject and screeching about trannies, he really is the type of guy to post here and that's not a good thing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      last time he was on Rogan he said some dumb shit MULTIPLE times, mostly about stats and Rogan went; "hold on, that sounds pretty unbelievable. Jamie can we check that?"
      Jamie: "yeah that's not true whatsoever"

      he's a shell of a man. Imagine getting corrected by Joe Rogan simply logic in a field he doesn't know shit about

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    is it 2018 again

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Only people that care about that goof are troons got embarrassed by him almost a decade ago

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jung is schizo literature not psychology. The frog had rigorous thought and was versed in philosophy. Also he writes in the most horrible way you can imagine. I don't know why anyone would want to torture himself reading him for fun

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to ease in to Jung, do it through Johnson. He wrote like a dozen books, each of which focuses on one concept from Jung. I read "Owning Your Own Shadow" and enjoyed it, a buddy of mine has read them all. They're easy and go quick.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The criticism from leftists says more about them than it does about Peterson. Deep down the screeching parakeets know he's a threat to the excesses of their liberalism and degeneracy.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      peterson's actions says more about him than anyone could

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >he's a threat
      Lmao how? What power does he have?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        lobster powers!

        >no source
        Extreme cope.
        [...]
        moron.
        [...]
        Boring. Come up with something new. Here's some OC for you.
        [...]
        >But go ahead and copy paste your list one more time
        Sure. It seems to be triggering the pseuds/trannies.

        >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
        >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
        >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
        >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
        >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
        >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world

        you're either a shill or something more pathetic

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      and your need to support Peterson as a perceived threat to tyrannical leftists and 'liberal degeneracy' shows exactly why he became popular in 2016, he's a puppet for edgy reactionaries. now he's had years to embarrass and discredit himself you simply cannot let him go.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Based.

      >he's a threat
      Lmao how? What power does he have?

      Well, the MSM has been trying to undermine him since he became well known. They have you morons mimicking their attempts at character assassination.
      >he's a drug addict tho!
      >his office was messy once!
      >er...you don't have a dad!
      >er...wash your dick!
      >his daughter is a bawd!
      >he likes the israelites!
      >he's controlled opposition!
      God. You're all so fricking stupid. Imagine seething against a media figure who earned his position by...

      >clinical psychologist who spent decades personally helping hundreds of people severely afflicted by mental illness
      >academic who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
      >research scientist working on the operationalization of personality constructs as well as the neurobiological basis of addiction
      >university professor who mentored dozens of grad students into academic, research, and counseling careers
      >assisted in the development of software that increases the likelihood of at-risk students reaching graduation as a side project
      >accidentally became internationally famous and ended up publishing 2 best selling books (so far) as well as organizing lectures in various countries throughout the world

      lobster powers!

      [...]
      you're either a shill or something more pathetic

      >shill
      This is the abstract from the infamous lobster paper btw:

      >REEEEEE
      Former student. But at least you didn't go with "YOU THINK HE YOUR DAD" like most morons.

      . Maybe you should read his academic work and base your conclusions on that instead of patting yourself on the back for being critical of a message that's been dumbed down for mass consumption. Or just stay pseud--I don't care.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >attempts at character assassination
        you're delusional. I doubt you'd put this much effort in if you were simply trolling so I think you may actually be genuine! how sad! no-one needs to assassinate Peterson, he does it himself. i doubt you'd be defending him if he didn't specifically champion your own small-minded ideals, hadn't taught you personally, and directly administered to the washing of your dick.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, there are many valid criticisms to be made against Peterson. However, you're a bunch of morons who can't come up with them because you can get past his status as a media figure. (Also, some of you are probably trannies).

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sir, this isn't /misc/

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            IQfy is the brain of /misc/, /misc/ is the stomach and anus of /misc/

            IQfy is the heart

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            your just are golem

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry.

            sir, this isn't /misc/

            This was meant for you

            [...]

            .

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            didn't ask

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Why are JBP haters such empty homosexuals lol

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No, there are many valid criticisms to be made against Peterson. However, you're a bunch of morons who can't come up with them because you can get past his status as a media figure. (Also, some of you are probably trannies).

            >troony, empty homosexuals
            you both sound like empty troony homosexuals

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            my bussy is empty, daddy

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the MSM has been trying to undermine him since he became well known
        He never lost his job, never had any of his social media accounts blocked (until only last week, and it was a block that could happen to anyone, it wasn't because it was him specifically), never had any trouble publishing his books, his books became bestsellers, etc. His rise to fame was completely unimpeded. If MSM really wanted to undermine him, he never would have become as big as he is today.
        I'm convinced you are a shill, or maybe even a bot.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >It didn't work therefore it was fake!
          You're moronic. There was a petition signed by a bunch of faculty at UofT to have him fired, tonnes of articles mischaracterizing his message, a multitude of media articles spreading false information regarding personal affairs, and his book was kept off of the NYT bestseller list on a technicality. Are you one of those "controlled opposition" conspiracy morons?

          who published dozens of widely cited papers ranging in subjects varying from practical counseling, historical/philosophical roots of psychology, research paradigms in neurology...
          He's neither the single nor the primary author for the vast majority of that material. Given authorship in the academy is a dog and pony show, it's entirely possible he wrote almost none of that material.

          >He's neither the single nor the primary author for the vast majority of that material
          What are you talking about? He was the head of his research team and published plenty of papers as the primary author (aside from working with other very reputable scientists and psychologists).
          >Given authorship in the academy is a dog and pony show, it's entirely possible he wrote almost none of that material
          "LET ME MAKE A BASELESS ACCUSATION THAT DEPENDS ON BIAS TOWARDS ACADEMIA IN GENERAL WHILE APPARENTLY BEING IGNORANT OF THE FACT PETERSON CRITICIZES THIS AS WELL!" Frick you're stupid. You haven't read any of his academic papers let alone any of his research. Just shut up.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you one of those "controlled opposition" conspiracy morons?
            I am. He is painted as a rebel but his controversies are very superficial. Ultimately he is entirely harmless to the powers that be.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >person takes action and shoots up sandBlack folk
            >OBVIOUS CIA PLANT! CONTROLLED OPPOSITION!11!
            >person tries to rationally convince others of his views
            >OBVIOUSLY POSES NO THREAT TO THE israeliteS! CONTROLLED OPPOSITION!11!
            This is why the right wing lost, and will continue to lose.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah obviously there is no middle ground between being a mass shooter and being a milquetoaste center-right liberal like Peterson. Lol.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly so fricking basic. Only revalatory if you're a clueless virgin with no idea about contemporary social values.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just look at his daughter and you know that his whole "life improvement" is just hot air. He can't even improve his daughter to a "successful" human being, then how should he be able to help you?

    Let's face it, psychology is a meme and only there so you can push mentally fricked up people to someone, so you don't have to listen to them yourself.

    Also his whole ideology is built around fighting symptoms and not the real problem.
    >clean your room
    >wash your dick
    and all the other shit is mostly just a result of failure.

    I would argue that the biggest problem in modern society is the school system, which is just a place where you get bullied and destroyed for life (through trash class psychopaths, psychopathic teachers, the genetical shit show called grades and the hidden implication about your genetical worthlessness if you don't have the best grades, and the list goes on and on). In fact even if you have always A+++ grades, every person in school loves you, you live in a 100 % crime free and loving area, and everything is perfect, even then it is better to just learn through homeschooling. If you reach 18 years, you are prepared for the psychological horror called "society" and you can use your mental strength through homeschooling to deal with psychopaths.

    But Peterson never talks about school, because school and grades are the only reason people have problems to begin with and look for self help gurus like him. You could say the suffering and destruction of the "education" system is the only reason useless waste of human air like him can exist.

    It's like getting shot in the foot and be crippled for life. Now imagine all people would get shot in the foot and be crippled for life. Now guess what? morons like Peterson don't say "WE HAVE TO STOP THAT PEOPLE GET SHOT IN THE FOOT!", no. Those grifters say shit like "wash your foot every day", "be nice to people who have a crippled foot", and other useless bullshit.

    Until school and grades exist, human society is doomed to psychological trauma forever. There is no solution, because the psychological damage of school and grades is not reversable and at best just hidden inside you and no one can help you after you went through the horrors of the execution... I mean "education" system.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hey man, I appreciate you. I understand.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad JP gatekeeps the morons from Jung.
    his "schizo" lit is absolutely what IQfy would wank about if they knew it existed.
    Thankfully we don't get morons defending his (poorly) against morons attacking him (poorly)

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