How are so many people i'm interviewing with CS degrees so fucking awful at this shit?

how are so many people i'm interviewing with CS degrees so fricking awful at this shit?

they're failing on stuff that should only be as hard as like, first-year homework material

these gays got through systems, OS, discrete math, algos, and electives on top of that with like a 3.2-3.6 GPA and they can't answer these questions?

...

were they ALL copying off one dude every class or something?

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  1. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    If they didn't cheat, they were cheated by their know-nothing professors and their decades-obsolete CS programs that teach visual basic or java instead of fundamentals.
    I tried a C++ course in uni once, it was several weeks in and we still hadn't gotten to functions or for loops, just if statements.
    Oh, and if you moved faster than the rest of the class, you got marked down for using forbidden features.

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      >teacher wants to see if you can sort an array
      >takes points off because you just used std::sort()
      >>whaaaaatttt???!!! are you marking me down because I'm using fOrBiDdEn fEaTuReS??!! Because im moving too fassttt??!!!!!

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        Oh we never even learned to do that the first semester.
        I didn't even know how to return from a function so I was calling main() within a function and the TA didn't even mark me down for that.

  2. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    as someone planning on switching degrees to cs, could you tell me some questions you usually make or important things to remember?
    i don't want someone to be so mad at me that they shitpost on 4chins

  3. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >how are so many people i'm interviewing with CS degrees so fricking awful at this shit?
    Idk anon I think it's just everyone is stupid and school is ez. I got a buddy with a business degree that is constantly asking me ridiculously easy questions that are like middle/high school math. This week it was basic unit conversions fricking baffling.
    I'm a college dropout so nothing to brag about but actually read books and learn about things im interested in. Normies are content being moronic it seems like

  4. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    post the questions moron

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      Given a set of points and edges, find the smallest vertex cover.

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        nani?

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        What form is the input? Never heard this one before but it sounds easy enough?

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        I have a cs degree and I don't remember any math off the top of my head
        I'm pretty sure a vertex cover is where you pick a set of edges that touch all the vertices, but I don't remember the algorithm to do so minimally

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >NP-hard question in an interview
        That's stupid senpai

  5. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    CS degrees are not IOI prep-camps. Stop doing moronic leetcode questions. This is ending up in the dumbest arms race of any industry in history. On the one hand moronic seniors (they probably can't do most of the questions on the spot either) who pick more and more outlandish leetcode problems and on the other an army of third world poos grinding leetcode armed with cracking the coding interview.

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Stop doing moronic leetcode questions
      People who can learn leetcode can learn whatever they need to do on the job.

      People who can't learn leetcode might still be able to learn whatever they need to do on the job, but no need to take the risk.

      If you complain about needing to solve leetcode (and frankly the vast majority of companies are only asking easy/medium questions that anyone who passed data structures without cheating or cheesing should be able to figure out just fine) you're either lazy or low IQ.

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Learn leetcode
        >High IQ
        Yeah, I'm thinking you're a poo who spend a considerable amount of time with the h1b1 interview book. CS is not leetcode.

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        >good at leetcode implies good engineer
        Curry scented Dunning-Kruger.

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      >cracking the coding interview
      This and leetcode have done so much damage to the interview process
      You have jeet's that'd get filtered by calculus if they couldn't cheat just memorizing solutions and acting smug when you can't cook up an obscure algorithm at the drop of a hat for a contrived problem

      • 3 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's even worse, you have more than one solution, the person giving the coding tests doesn't even know how to program, the solution won't match their example solution prepared by the nerd department.

  6. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's baffling how basically only the top schools are producing competent workers. We hire a lot from UC Berkeley and Davis and those kids are fine, but I think something's wrong when basically anyone below the cream of the crop is useless.

  7. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Too many morons pressured into CS when they have no interest in it
    Big globohomosexual wants programmers but doesn't want to pay for the skills so people who would have majored in humanities or other soft shit get memed into switching
    CS programs are also soft as frick compared to other STEM programs

    • 3 years ago
      Anonymous

      >CS programs are also soft as frick compared to other STEM programs
      Yeah I think this is a huge problem. A lot of CS programs require only one semester of calculus and absolutely no physics. People aren't grinding their problem-solving skills all that much from the start. Also every single CS class I took had a discord server set up immediately in which people were constantly soft-cheating by sharing way too much about how to do the homework etc.

      So in the end what you're left with is a basic-b***h java programming degree in which they mostly cheated their way through it anyway. Yeah, no shit we're gonna check if you'd pass data structures again.

  8. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >were they ALL copying off one dude every class or something?
    Grad student who has done some TA work here (I have both designed homework problems as well as graded them). A lot of students are copying their work, but it's generally off of sites like Chegg, rather than from other students. One of the ways you can observe this is to take take a homework problem issued in a previous year, and change some of the parameters just slightly. For instance, in a class on finite automata, I might have students design a DFA over some language which has the alphabet {a, b, c}, and in the second year, I change the alphabet to {x, y, z}. The students who look up the problem on Chegg or otherwise Google it will give an answer in terms of {a, b, c}, when there is no way for them to come up with this answer had they actually read the problem.

    Unfortunately, professors are reluctant to actually abide by the university academic honesty policy, which would require me to give a 0 for the entire assignment (not just the problem) if cheating was detected on any of the problems, and also to write the student up so that if they cheat in multiple classes... they get expelled.

  9. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    Odds are, you're demanding CS degrees for stuff that doesn't require it at all.
    CS isn't a hard math degree, it's a degree in learning to program and it's been like that since the early 90s.

  10. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    >how are so many people i'm interviewing with CS degrees so fricking awful at this shit?
    Because it’s not worth remembering in detail outside of academia.

  11. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    OP is probably pretty old if he still thinks CS degrees are taught as hard math focused courseloads.

    CS today is just learning to program. I will say im in my senior year of software engineering and probably couldnt answer your question fully, though.

  12. 3 years ago
    Anonymous

    lel, when your comptia candidates are better than degree candidates... very common

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