You do realize that if you're already born it's already Game Over for you right?
The bio immortals we'll one day create need to be genetically engineered from the ground up to have those properties.
You already exist the way you're put together and changing your pre-programmed expiration date would require some godlike technology from where we're at.
We have meds in rats that slow down aging without genetic engineering. And I don't see why changing our DNA is necessary.
DNA only creates proteins, you can create other proteins in a lab or create chemicals that counteract the problematic proteines our body makes
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Yeah. Now good luck countering thousands if not more, different harmful synthesis of proteins going on in the body simultaneously. You'll have to find a molecule for each and every one of them, that themselves also don't bring undesirable effects. This sort of task isn't supposed to be done by human brains but very sophisticated computers.
Some people like Ray Kurzweil speculate that because life extension technologies will advance exponentially, that we will have essentially immortality through a never ending series of life extensions
https://i.imgur.com/LCCLown.jpg
How close are we to find a cure for aging?
>your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should
We have meds in rats that slow down aging without genetic engineering. And I don't see why changing our DNA is necessary.
DNA only creates proteins, you can create other proteins in a lab or create chemicals that counteract the problematic proteines our body makes
Yeah. Now good luck countering thousands if not more, different harmful synthesis of proteins going on in the body simultaneously. You'll have to find a molecule for each and every one of them, that themselves also don't bring undesirable effects. This sort of task isn't supposed to be done by human brains but very sophisticated computers.
>You already exist the way you're put together and changing your pre-programmed expiration date would require some godlike technology from where we're at.
True. We'll probably have to come up with a discount way to bridge the gap between the pre and post genetically engineered people like the use artificial limbs or bones.
Some people like Ray Kurzweil speculate that because life extension technologies will advance exponentially, that we will have essentially immortality through a never ending series of life extensions
Damn he went from a twink to a...uh non-twink. Aging truly is the most depressing part of life. It's 2022 and every single one of us has to slowly watch our bodies age and fall apart. Also he looked cuter with a skinnier neck, IQfygays BTFO.
>How close are we to find a cure for aging?
You mean cancer ? cause that's literally the """""cure"""" for aging unironically
while we can't ""cure"" it, we can minimize it's impact with the following:
-Tretinoin
-Vitamin C serum
-Moisturizing
-Exfoliating
-Avoiding products that contain Hormone mimicking chemicals
-Not smoking/doing drugs/drinking
-Doing sport
-Avoiding sun and always use sunscreen
-Eat well and avoid garbage junk food
-Avoid processed food/refined sugar
-Avoid stress
-Monitoring your body and Treating Any disease you have in it's early stage specially when you're predisposed to have a very high chance of having a condition (Diabetes, allergies , asthma , psoriasis etc)
and most importantly having a good genetic and be fricking rich, ideally a Trustfund gay who just inherited the money without being subjected to all the stress that come with climbing the social latter
That is total crap though, people will still die even if they never develop it. Your brain and organs and all the important information-carriers and repairers in them degrade like a bridge rusted by decades of saltwater. Your bones go brittle. Everything slowly goes to hell. There are many flaws with the human body that must be fixed
if we find a way to destroy the processes that allow cells to corrupt DNA during cell division then we have both cured cancer and aging at the same time.
>soon
Obviously you havent got a clue and you've been watching too much anime, but we are very very very far off from that being any kind of possibility, and even if it were nearly possible (which its not, we still know nothing about the brain), this would create some serious problems of conciousness and identity that science cant answer yet
I don't know but the young adults of today seem to be unusually 'ageist' and dismissive of older generations.
I think it has to do with the planet being saturated and older generations already owning all the resources.
Most of these people will never afford a nice place of their own, fancy transportation, vacation, family etc and end up working dead end jobs for a lot of stick and no carrot.
The one thing they got going for them is their ephemeral youth and that is slipping away at the usual pace, if not accelerated due to malnutrition and stress.
In our current timeline and age solution doesn't exist because all of the info regarding to aging has been destroyed by time and history
All we're doing now is rediscovering lost secrets with coping scientific method
>The other way around
No and stop coping. Unless you're older and have wrinkles being fat will only make you look older. Your face looks bigger and bloated, your eyes look smaller as well. Your body also looks older when you're fat. You can literally see it the OP, just stop.
Thank you Op for helping me solve the mistery of Larking Poe.
For over a year I wonder why this cutie supposedly called Rebecca looks as another girl in all the other videos of theirs:
and this is why I hate live shows (even though I attend them from time to time) that they make people sing the same songs again and again (imagine singing this one on regular basis) and to drink alcohol to cope.
But guys kinda look completely different, and it's nowhere told that they ever changed the members.
So to thank you in return I feel like informing you on potential application of genetic therapies reported to be used as rejuvenating technology already and getting affordable in this decade. You'll hear about them in about five years from every corner when everybody can afford them so it doesn't provoke an unwanted uproar which could happen today if they informed the public at once.
Jesus, these threads are getting more and more frequent. I should just write a copy pasta.
I'm a junior member of a researchgroup working on anti ageing technology, blah blah.
TL:DR 15-50 years or more if we are wrong about everything.
The longer version: There are 9 synergising mechanisms of ageing, in 3 categories. The pirmary: DNA damag, telomer degradation and epigenetic reorganisation. The 4 antagonistic like ROS and the 2 integrative like altered cellular communication. (Lopez-Otin 2013).
The key here is DNA degradation, that causes pretty much everything else. The key cause of DNA damage seems to be transposon activity. (Gorbunova 2021). Finally, the key reason for transposon activation seems to be epigenetic remodeling (Kazazian, idk he did a shitton of transposon work).
So what we are working on now is understanding and targeting transposon activation.
There are alternative avenues, Some people think DNA damage is harder to adress than it's immediate cause, loss of proteostasis (Maller and Shalgi, maybe 2007 or 2008?). Some people in the lab neighbouring ours are working on increased clearance of misfolded proteins and others are working on more durable alternatives to existing proteins.
Over all we can do some pretty impressive life extention already in model organisms, some of them through gene edditing, others trhough RNAi and others through ectopic treatments.
There are some harder problems to overcome, like sequencing difficulties of transposons due to high polymorphism, but there seem to be no walls to hit, no hard thermodynamic reason high longevity should not be possible.
>telomer degradation
What a junior member you're! Cannot even write telomere properly.
This issue has been solved for over twenty years in animal models. It's been applied in humans only about 5 years ago. Today you can even buy this procedure if you're rich and competent enough to realize that is worth it.
I don't follow the other two, but I'm pretty sure if they're real issues, people are working to solve them and when I can afford the telomerase induction, I will look what else is out there.
Recently scientists managed to rejuvenate skin cells of a woman in her 50s, so we are starting off very small already, it's still the early days and slowly but surly i think we will see more breakthroughs in the coming decades.
It just looks like he got fat.
Damn, must’ve been a rough year
Freshman 20 lmao
homie lose some weight and put down the bottle
You do realize that if you're already born it's already Game Over for you right?
The bio immortals we'll one day create need to be genetically engineered from the ground up to have those properties.
You already exist the way you're put together and changing your pre-programmed expiration date would require some godlike technology from where we're at.
We have meds in rats that slow down aging without genetic engineering. And I don't see why changing our DNA is necessary.
DNA only creates proteins, you can create other proteins in a lab or create chemicals that counteract the problematic proteines our body makes
>your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should
Based
Yeah. Now good luck countering thousands if not more, different harmful synthesis of proteins going on in the body simultaneously. You'll have to find a molecule for each and every one of them, that themselves also don't bring undesirable effects. This sort of task isn't supposed to be done by human brains but very sophisticated computers.
>You already exist the way you're put together and changing your pre-programmed expiration date would require some godlike technology from where we're at.
True. We'll probably have to come up with a discount way to bridge the gap between the pre and post genetically engineered people like the use artificial limbs or bones.
Some people like Ray Kurzweil speculate that because life extension technologies will advance exponentially, that we will have essentially immortality through a never ending series of life extensions
>cure for aging
stop consuming the govgay foods that kill u i guess
link to that video? it's from youtube right? i've been looking for it for months
Damn he went from a twink to a...uh non-twink. Aging truly is the most depressing part of life. It's 2022 and every single one of us has to slowly watch our bodies age and fall apart. Also he looked cuter with a skinnier neck, IQfygays BTFO.
>Also he looked cuter with a skinnier neck, IQfygays BTFO.
He didn't get IQfy, he got /fat/.
Whether his neck has more fat or muscle is beside the point that he looked cuter with a skinnier neck.
>How close are we to find a cure for aging?
You mean cancer ? cause that's literally the """""cure"""" for aging unironically
while we can't ""cure"" it, we can minimize it's impact with the following:
-Tretinoin
-Vitamin C serum
-Moisturizing
-Exfoliating
-Avoiding products that contain Hormone mimicking chemicals
-Not smoking/doing drugs/drinking
-Doing sport
-Avoiding sun and always use sunscreen
-Eat well and avoid garbage junk food
-Avoid processed food/refined sugar
-Avoid stress
-Monitoring your body and Treating Any disease you have in it's early stage specially when you're predisposed to have a very high chance of having a condition (Diabetes, allergies , asthma , psoriasis etc)
and most importantly having a good genetic and be fricking rich, ideally a Trustfund gay who just inherited the money without being subjected to all the stress that come with climbing the social latter
That is total crap though, people will still die even if they never develop it. Your brain and organs and all the important information-carriers and repairers in them degrade like a bridge rusted by decades of saltwater. Your bones go brittle. Everything slowly goes to hell. There are many flaws with the human body that must be fixed
>You mean cancer ? cause that's literally the """""cure"""" for aging unironically
Most people die of cardiovasculardisease not cancer
Making cells that keep replicating forever without dying aka the cure for aging is called cancer
theyre called stemcells and your body is full of them even at this moment
t. doesn't know what he's talking about
Yeah when you said:
> Making cells that keep replicating forever without dying aka the cure for aging
I knew I was dealing with a total idiot
>I knew I was dealing with a total idiot
I'm an MD, you're a low iq NEET.
Know your place.
>t. Dr. moron MD
T.
>pic related, me, who never had a single lesson in cell biology
You're Mentally Deficient?
explain how cancer is the cure for aging
if we find a way to destroy the processes that allow cells to corrupt DNA during cell division then we have both cured cancer and aging at the same time.
The only way you're getting a cure any time soon is mind uploading.
>soon
Obviously you havent got a clue and you've been watching too much anime, but we are very very very far off from that being any kind of possibility, and even if it were nearly possible (which its not, we still know nothing about the brain), this would create some serious problems of conciousness and identity that science cant answer yet
You are going to die. Get over it
this is what the people who want a "cure for aging" look like
non sequitur. that creature clearly does not care about lifespanmaxxing
>I want death, now if possible
what if I told you for each year of life you gained, your penis was reduced by 5% of its size since the gains started?
I never use it so who cares?
I will never understand anons who care about things like this. If you're not a virgin you shouldn't be here in purgatory anyway.
Better than dying
I don't care, I'd go troony if it meant living forever
>implying i'm still going to give a shit about passions of the flesh when i'm 150 years old
>wanting to have a dick
cringe
homie got sunburnt and gained a couple of pounds
0. There's no way to correctly regen axons that have undergone wallerian degeneration in large nerve fibers
Every "aging doomer" itt is a fricking pussy and a homosexual
Why do zoomers want to look like 12 year old boys forever?
I don't know but the young adults of today seem to be unusually 'ageist' and dismissive of older generations.
I think it has to do with the planet being saturated and older generations already owning all the resources.
Most of these people will never afford a nice place of their own, fancy transportation, vacation, family etc and end up working dead end jobs for a lot of stick and no carrot.
The one thing they got going for them is their ephemeral youth and that is slipping away at the usual pace, if not accelerated due to malnutrition and stress.
I can't really blame them for being salty.
>posting kurzgecuckt unironically
Popsoi normies get out.
Synthetic stem cells already exist
~~*they*~~ dont want to commercialize it so they can keep eating human fetuses
stfu
t. baby eating hollywood elite
>How close are we
What do you mean by "we", Peasant?
Jesus is coming back soon, so pretty damn close.
In our current timeline and age solution doesn't exist because all of the info regarding to aging has been destroyed by time and history
All we're doing now is rediscovering lost secrets with coping scientific method
This is no aging. This is him becoming a fatfrick. Being fat makes you look older.
>Being fat makes you look older.
The other way around
>The other way around
No and stop coping. Unless you're older and have wrinkles being fat will only make you look older. Your face looks bigger and bloated, your eyes look smaller as well. Your body also looks older when you're fat. You can literally see it the OP, just stop.
Thank you Op for helping me solve the mistery of Larking Poe.
For over a year I wonder why this cutie supposedly called Rebecca looks as another girl in all the other videos of theirs:
and this is why I hate live shows (even though I attend them from time to time) that they make people sing the same songs again and again (imagine singing this one on regular basis) and to drink alcohol to cope.
But guys kinda look completely different, and it's nowhere told that they ever changed the members.
So to thank you in return I feel like informing you on potential application of genetic therapies reported to be used as rejuvenating technology already and getting affordable in this decade. You'll hear about them in about five years from every corner when everybody can afford them so it doesn't provoke an unwanted uproar which could happen today if they informed the public at once.
Jesus, these threads are getting more and more frequent. I should just write a copy pasta.
I'm a junior member of a researchgroup working on anti ageing technology, blah blah.
TL:DR 15-50 years or more if we are wrong about everything.
The longer version: There are 9 synergising mechanisms of ageing, in 3 categories. The pirmary: DNA damag, telomer degradation and epigenetic reorganisation. The 4 antagonistic like ROS and the 2 integrative like altered cellular communication. (Lopez-Otin 2013).
The key here is DNA degradation, that causes pretty much everything else. The key cause of DNA damage seems to be transposon activity. (Gorbunova 2021). Finally, the key reason for transposon activation seems to be epigenetic remodeling (Kazazian, idk he did a shitton of transposon work).
So what we are working on now is understanding and targeting transposon activation.
There are alternative avenues, Some people think DNA damage is harder to adress than it's immediate cause, loss of proteostasis (Maller and Shalgi, maybe 2007 or 2008?). Some people in the lab neighbouring ours are working on increased clearance of misfolded proteins and others are working on more durable alternatives to existing proteins.
Over all we can do some pretty impressive life extention already in model organisms, some of them through gene edditing, others trhough RNAi and others through ectopic treatments.
There are some harder problems to overcome, like sequencing difficulties of transposons due to high polymorphism, but there seem to be no walls to hit, no hard thermodynamic reason high longevity should not be possible.
>telomer degradation
What a junior member you're! Cannot even write telomere properly.
This issue has been solved for over twenty years in animal models. It's been applied in humans only about 5 years ago. Today you can even buy this procedure if you're rich and competent enough to realize that is worth it.
I don't follow the other two, but I'm pretty sure if they're real issues, people are working to solve them and when I can afford the telomerase induction, I will look what else is out there.
Recently scientists managed to rejuvenate skin cells of a woman in her 50s, so we are starting off very small already, it's still the early days and slowly but surly i think we will see more breakthroughs in the coming decades.