How did a modified Epicurean world-outlook philosophy become the dominant OS running on the brains of the normie multitudes?
How did a modified Epicurean world-outlook philosophy become the dominant OS running on the brains of the normie multitudes?
Other than some "Modern Stoics", who follow a watered down version of Epicureanism, most people are not Epicurean.
Interesting. What makes you say modern stoics are watered down epicureans?
"Modern Stoics" (by this, I don't mean every modern fan of Stoicism, but the "Modern Stoicism" movement) are liberal atheists who have as their main objective achieving Ataraxia. Stoicism would be about learning about the divine will and following it.
They are watered down Epicureans because they aren't as "ascetic" as the Epicureans. There is also some "added-on" liberalism to it. So, for them, whatever the Democrat Party likes is virtue.
>atheist
Epicurus believed that gods existed
"For gods there are: our knowledge of them is clear. "( Letter to Menoikeus, 4 paragraph)
He's talking about ryan holliday stoics , I think
I don't know who that guy is.
>Epicureans
They are not. They are who Plato describes in the Republic as the democratic man. Trying one thing one week and another the next.
They are though, modified ofcourse, exchanging some ascetic elements with hedonic ones.
Epicureanism was about reducing unnecessary desires. Absence of mental pain in a state of ataraxia being the highest desire.
The "normal"/Hollywood/mainstream media view is that for a good life you need to experience many kind of unnecessary pleasures to have a good life. That you need to have experienced many sexual partners (Epicurus was celibate) during your lifetime. That you need to chase status (which according to Epicurean ethics, was an unnatural and unnecessary desire).
If anything, they would likely cancel Epicurus, since sodomy is an unnatural desire.
I'm not an Epicurean and I feel like Epicurean ethics is incomplete, I'm a Christian. But it is an insult to Epicurus to call what we have today of Epicurean.
By Atheist, I mean the "Modern Stoic" types rather than Epicurus.
Actually modern people are more Cyrenaics than Epicureans.
You are likely giving Epicurean thinking too much credit.
I suffer everyday knowing I will never have a wife like this no matter what I do
>tattoos
A meth addicted Black person could have her, a dog could have her. Why not you?
Belief in the supernatural was worn down over the centuries by our improved understanding of the natural world.
Supernatural and natural are different subject matters. Knowledge of the natural world can say nothing about the supernatural, pretty much by definition.
Get out of the ivory tower. Belief in spirits, ghosts, and souls is nearly at an all time high among the common folk. Organized religion has suffered because the underlying philosophy of our age is a type of liberalism that corrodes anything that lays down any sort of rules. The reasonable rules of today are tomorrow’s archaic social constructs that serve no purpose. No longstanding institution can sustain itself in such an environment.
>our age is a type of liberalism that corrodes anything that lays down any sort of rules.
That because the oligarchs don't want competition.
But remember Plato, after an age of ultimate debauchery comes an age of ultimate restriction.
>Belief in spirits, ghosts, and souls is nearly at an all time high among the common folk
You can't be serious.
>Organized religion has suffered because the underlying philosophy of our age is a type of liberalism that corrodes anything that lays down any sort of rules. The reasonable rules of today are tomorrow’s archaic social constructs that serve no purpose.
This mode of thinking is irrefutable unless you can appeal to a supernatural power.
>You can't be serious.
As serious as a healing stone.
I'm shocked by how attractive this female is to me
You guys are probably gay.
100%
More like a Mommified Abpicurean... uhhh... World... Hmmm...
I want to wrestle and frick this woman into submission to breed warrior sons
used to think 'her face is so nice, why's she doing this weird masc bodybuilding stuff'. then i covered her body, just looking at her face. i wouldn't look twice at her.
she changed the conversation from 'she's nothing to write home about' to 'what a pity that such a beautiful woman should daub herself in this way’
Because it's a good one, just see Rome.