How did the ship after the ancient times move?
They obviously didnt have any power from petrol or coal and they didnt use slaves either.
They harnessed the air more effective, but lets say that one day it doesnt have wind at all how does it move?
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Either rowing or knowing very well the areas prone to overly calm seas and avoiding them
you mean to tell me that in the picture i posted on the OP, there were rowers? i dont think so
Oh that’s what you’re talking about? That’s early modern already. They knew currents and wings extremely well. When needed they would tow with small boats being rowed. You have to be clearer what Oreos you’re talking about
Eras*
Large ships like that were not generally taken to places that had issues with the wind giving out. For places with that time of issue the corvette was the go to type of ship.
Marine engines are physically impossible. Ocean currents, row and sail the only way ships have ever moved. A few cargo ships weigh as much as every truck in the world.
What do you mean? Even today? I’ve been on boats. They just use propulsion
North Korea is poor because it lacks a port. A few miles of distance outside a ocean current is impossible for ships.
I assume you’re just a schizo looking for attentio. But for the sake of others being confused I’ll respond once
When the first transatlantic cable was being laid, two ships left, one from Europe and one from North America (Newfoundland) and met in the middle. Unless the same current goes in both directions, this would be impossible according to you
I’m sure you’ll respond with schizoid babbling but this is for the sake of others, not for you. You can just claim I made this all up. I give you permission to convince yourself of that
That was a single event.
What about massive sea engagement between cruiser and battleship fleets in WW1 & WW2?
Jutland was nothing. In Ww2 the majority of battleships did nothing. Submarines move very slowly.
conventional submarines can go 20 knots easily. Nuclear submarines can go 30.
Fastest ocean currents are like 5 knots, you uniformed mongoloid moron
That's physically impossible, you cannot find any evidence of a submarine reaching 30 knots.
My uncle is a nuclear submarine technician. I have it verified from first hand accounts. You’ve never even seen a submarine and don’t understand anything about engineering
Frick off landlubber
What's his MOS jidf
>gets btfo’d by actual facts and reality
>”jooooos”
What a fricking loser. Gtfo
Well done jidf. Good larp.
Oh I see what you mean, he was a technician in the Israeli navy. I thought you were pretending to be American.
Anyway here's the navy literally admitting it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-04/submarine-runs-eternally-thermal-power-ocean-currents/%3Famp
>the Israeli navy’s nuclear submarines
You literally dont know anything
How can a post be so short and yet so moronic?
>A few cargo ships weigh as much as every truck in the world.
maths today. o boi.
Clearly you are too dumb to math. As jidf it is hardly surprising.
ur frail ego cant admit you made that up just to sound interesting
dunno how much the trucks and ships weigh in your head bro but the maths dont add up. ---
Excellent work lib.
>came looking for a based and comfy maritime thread
>it’s just some schizo making shit up and calling everyone who disagrees with him a israelite
Take your meds and post more ships
same.
i think he's trying to become the next "you cant go to sardinia by boat" meme but his wording shows that he's in a hurry to reply rather than to find out. he's too eager. too easy to see through after reading just a two of his respones.
How did they make Junks so stylish.
one of my favorite paintings.
>lets say one day it doesnt have wind at all how does it move?
It doesn't move.
It moves the only way ships ever have, by ocean currents, and marine engines are physically impossible.
Nevermind, the diagram posted shows that they could use the ships boats to tow her when becalmed
So the schizo answer
How to get rid of the schizo I’m looking for an actual not-subhuman discussion
Like that other guy said, rowboats towing it for ships of the line like that
Without wind you don't move. You sit there waiting for wind.
The big square sails you use if you have wind from behind, they're your turbo boost and will carry you off into the distance at up to breath taking 15 knots.
If you want to sail with the wind coming from your sides you need those triangular sails that are raised length wise.
If you want to sail against the wind you need the triangular sails and you zig zag 45 degrees against the wind in one and then the other direction. This is very slow, but you'll be able to actually move towards your destination instead of being thrown off course, maybe with 4 or 5 knots if you're lucky
Wrong. Ocean currents are the only way ships move.
You need to get your daily dose. We now have orange flavor pills as well.
>They harnessed the air more effective, but lets say that one day it doesnt have wind at all how does it move?
Depends on the ship type. Some had the means to row, some had to wait for the wind and were basically going with the flow, the sea currents.
You can scull by moving the rudder back and forth with the same effect as an oar, or put out the smaller boats the ship carries (which do have oars) and draw it through the water that way.
Nope you can just use ocean currents like modern ships do, as marine engines are fake.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-04/submarine-runs-eternally-thermal-power-ocean-currents/%3Famp
>you can't use an oar
Explain cruise ships / freight ships moving in and out of port (when they are no longer towed of course)
>Live pigs, goats, chickens, geese, ducks, up to a dozen cattle and 30 sheep
conceptualize the odor
This is why people should read Moby Dick. They have no concept of history.
Make sure it is the unabridged version so that they get all the nitty gritty details of sailing and not just the captain ree’ing out over a whale.
Lateen rigging, the Portuguese figured out how to do maritime U-turns by arranging three sails in a specific order, so that your sails always take you to your destination, or at least don't blow you away from it.