How did they do it?

The American frontier has been colonized and incorporated to such a thorough degree that the only people who think of it as a colonized frontier any longer are crackpot activist rejects, impotent byepocks, and subversive foreign agents. The question is how?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    gaypox

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      disease killing 90% of them + lack of any large organized civilization + just killing them

      this, the disease killed what was essentially either a stone age society or at a push a semi agricultural one

      once euros got a foothold it was completely over for them. by the time the 13 colonies were cemented it was beyond over. there was no reality in which what were essentially bandits could continue to operate. I mean they put up a good fight, the warrior cultures of these peoples was no joke and they had their fun geocoding and purging each other before the Americans came anyway so it was fair game.

      but 1000 years of advancement + higher IQ meant it was always a losing battle. its like the Israelis vs Palestinians, no matter how much an advantage the natives have, a committed force with the means and the motivation will win

      Population didn't stop Spain from assraping the natives for 400 years, and conquering more than half of the americas. The real reason why the US was able to grow organically without the use of force was because the people were allowed great amounts of autonomy. The Spanish empire had conquered the most populated places in the new world but as soon as Spanish settlers had ventured past the sierra Madres and into the arid highlands they suddenly stopped. they lost the protection of a crown garrison due to the economic nature of the land. In spanish colonies it was illegal to own firearms so all of the spanish settlers north of the Sierra madres got BTFO by the native american version of steppe Black folk. In the British colonies it was encouraged to own firearms to protect your own property so the settlers could expand west without the need for a military escort. The american people dealt with the steppeBlack folk themselves and this freed up the US military to focus on the larger tribes

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    disease killing 90% of them + lack of any large organized civilization + just killing them

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this, the disease killed what was essentially either a stone age society or at a push a semi agricultural one

      once euros got a foothold it was completely over for them. by the time the 13 colonies were cemented it was beyond over. there was no reality in which what were essentially bandits could continue to operate. I mean they put up a good fight, the warrior cultures of these peoples was no joke and they had their fun geocoding and purging each other before the Americans came anyway so it was fair game.

      but 1000 years of advancement + higher IQ meant it was always a losing battle. its like the Israelis vs Palestinians, no matter how much an advantage the natives have, a committed force with the means and the motivation will win

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        disease killing 90% of them + lack of any large organized civilization + just killing them

        The eastern US had agricultural town building socities for a few thousand years, and the southwest had them for a decent amount of time.

        The frontier area didn't have them, though

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this, the disease killed what was essentially either a stone age society or at a push a semi agricultural one

      once euros got a foothold it was completely over for them. by the time the 13 colonies were cemented it was beyond over. there was no reality in which what were essentially bandits could continue to operate. I mean they put up a good fight, the warrior cultures of these peoples was no joke and they had their fun geocoding and purging each other before the Americans came anyway so it was fair game.

      but 1000 years of advancement + higher IQ meant it was always a losing battle. its like the Israelis vs Palestinians, no matter how much an advantage the natives have, a committed force with the means and the motivation will win

      There were probably only about 5 million native americans north of the Rio Grande pre-contact, and 1 million after disease worked its way through.
      Disease had a far greater impact in terms of raw numbers in Spanish America, although contrary to popular belief the Spanish had already conquered the Aztecs and Inca before any major pandemics occured. The conquests weren't complete by any means though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I recall the Inca were particularly difficult to subdue?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, but they did fight a little after they were conquered even winning a battle against a bigger spanish+native army.
          The problem was that almost all their leadership/aristocracy was either killed or on the spanish side after they killed the emperor, that with being on a civil war+plague made it impossible for them to survive, if they didnt have the civil war the inca empire would have probably survived colonization unlike the aztecs who had 0 chance because their empire was much smaller and encircled by enemies who were manipulated and eventually colonized by the spanish.
          After the inca empire became an spanish puppet and eventually colony some inca heir rebelled and they retreated to what we know today as Bolivia until they were defeated, although that is one of the reasons why Bolivia is majority naitve american unlike the rest of latin america who are mestizos with majoritiy native dna, so Bolivia in a sense might have a bigger claim to the inca empire by blood but Perú has it by territory

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Also i would like to add that the incan rebels were very close to winning which is interesting because if they won the inca empire would have survived too

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, those were the mapuche way down south.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Spanish had already conquered the Aztecs and Inca before any major pandemics occured.
        No that's completely untrue. The incas especially had been dealing with European disease epidemics centuries before Pizarro even ffs. Fricking amerilards.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          A century hadn't even passed from 1492 before the Inca were completely conquered. Centuries? What the frick are you talking about?
          Fricking Europoors.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I guarantee the anon youre replying to is some chilean midwit

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I said decades, illiterate corn syrup brain walrus b***h. Try re-reading the wiki articles you attempt to cite.

            I guarantee the anon youre replying to is some chilean midwit

            >guarantee the anon youre replying to is some chilean midwit
            Chilean? You some aussie hick groomer freak? Kek

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You said centuries.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe it's different on the Walmart interface

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Centuries before
          homie you gotta go back to kindergarten math classes. Not even one century had passed between 1492 and the conquest of Mexico and Peru

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He meant decades

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was destiny.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    do burgers really?

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Same way Siberia became Russia and Manchuria became Chinese.
    It's still physically connected to the core heartland of the country, and the settler-immigrants simply outnumber all the previous natives

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The outcome in Manchuria may be the same but the process was very different from America and Siberia.
      The Manchu conquered China, founded the Qing, relocated the entire Manchu people to Beijing leaving Manchuria a desolate wasteland, moved some back along with some Han once the Russians began to encroach, then later opened it up fully to Han immigrants while the Manchu themselves willingly sinicized themselves.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Sheer will.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Ulster Scot settlers were too OP

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If that was the case Appalachia would be an economic/political powerhouse

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >warriors build good economics or complex political socities
        no they dont and thank god they dont otherwise the world would 100% soi

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      New Caledonia

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >colonized and incorporated
    The west still is empty.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >proving my point
      Everything west of the Appalachian Mountains is the frontier.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        vgh

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine if the same degree of succes had been seen in colonizing Africa.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Thirteen states
    >More than thirteen
    Explain.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >the humble vvestern strip of South Carolina
        >the mega Virginia shielding the south from northern aggression
        vgh...

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Virginia was once a great nation.

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