Rome wasn't destroyed, nor did it destroy itself. Late Roman emperors, at least from Diocletian to Honorius and Arcadius used Germanic tribes as means to stabilize the limes (hence the limitanei) and as a demographic ressource to repopulate previously plundered regions (like Thrace under Valens and Theodosius, 376-383, a period of time during which the battle of Adrianopolis took place, 378). Rome morphed into the papacy, the Byzantines, the Carolingians, the HRE and the Renaissance through cultural emulation and the revival of Roman law made possible by the church's canon law (12-13th century). Not to mention the fact that German national ideals, from 1814 onward (basically, a reaction against Napoleonic hegemony) rarely if ever claimed a Roman legacy which they associated with the French principles of the nation-state based upon citizenship, rather than that of the spirit of the Volk that was supposed to stem from the people, aka Lutheran peasants. Just look at Fichte or Wagner. The Germans state that the French are the last degenerate avatar of Romanhood.
explain who cut off the aqueducts, forcing the civilians to return to primitive methods? who sacked and pillaged rome twice? who lowered the literacy of europe? it’s all caused by the germanic barbarians. the renaissance developed from italy as a response against barbaric law from germanics.
Explain how the Roman Senate actually allowed Alaric to pillage Rome (though not its churches, and to only make prisoners from the aristocracy to get ransom) to end Honorius' 410 authority crisis because he wasn't able to make himself respected, when Stilicho, his Vandal-born magister militum, whom he assassinated in Pavia, actually repelled Alaric twice in 402-403.
This was institutionalised, therefore, it shows Alaric himself and his successor Athaulf (who married Honorius' sister) could represent Roman authority. Not to mention Rome wasn't a political capital anymore ever since Maxentius (312). Politically, this sack had no direct consequence. Symbolically, it's of course another story
Anglo-Saxon varangians fought at the final battle of Constantinople, and prior to the collapse of the western Roman empire much of its army were made up of Germanics since the Romans lost interest in actually defending Rome.
If you actually did your research instead of regurgitation blatantly false historical information you would know that Germanics didn't utterly destroy the Roman empire, by then it was in gross decline, and much of those Germans already had Roman citizenship and were promised land under the foederati system.
Complete bollocks, the empire degraded and by the time any wannabe tribe leader claimed parts of rome there was basically nobody caring about it, rome did not collapse in a day, it degraded very slowly over the centuries, the rome of octavian augustus was just a myth by the 5th century even for the roman nobility
Defended so well that now the craddle of white civilization is getting eroded and probably won't have a single white living in the next century, good defense bro
Defended so well that now the craddle of white civilization is getting eroded and probably won't have a single white living in the next century, good defense bro
The Germans were defending the white race.
Odd blamegame. Britain and France declare war on Germany over the Danzig strip after Poles attack Germany, and your argument is victim blaming.
>Germany wanted that
wehreboos either just as dishonest as or too moronic to read their leaders' own writing
This is the part where you claim the ost myth is real and then I remind you that Poland was given a general government when in the past Poland would have been wiped off the map. You're about to tell a string of three lies back to back, starting with chapter eight of Mein Kampf.
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>ost myth
what myth lol? >image attached
poland was consistently given a level of self-rule after the napoleonic wars far higher than the general government >congress poland >polish ssr >german regency kingdom
mostly lead by actual poles instead of a german (hans frank) whom dismissed all poles as stateless and actively began the process of annexation >i- i said you were gonna do thing so you can't d- do it anymore!
moron
Anglo-Saxons only entered Britannia at the end when the Romans had already pulled out and the descendants of the Germanics in Germany at most when into Germania provinces. Italy and Spain have more descendants of people who actually sacked Rome
It was historically necessary and Britain replaced Rome as its successor.
you anglos pillaged and plunged the great empire, bringing europe to the dark ages for the next five hundred years
Why should anglo's care? it wasn't their empire and they gained from it's loss
if you germanics didn’t sack rome, we’d be exploring galaxies by now
Destroying Rome is fricking based. Stay mad, brownies.
you anglos have a history of pillaging, raping, and killing
look at what happened in india australia, and the americas
Stone age primitives have nothing to pillage and there's no evidence the British committed mass rapes. British rule was a benefit to the lesser races.
Rome wasn't destroyed, nor did it destroy itself. Late Roman emperors, at least from Diocletian to Honorius and Arcadius used Germanic tribes as means to stabilize the limes (hence the limitanei) and as a demographic ressource to repopulate previously plundered regions (like Thrace under Valens and Theodosius, 376-383, a period of time during which the battle of Adrianopolis took place, 378). Rome morphed into the papacy, the Byzantines, the Carolingians, the HRE and the Renaissance through cultural emulation and the revival of Roman law made possible by the church's canon law (12-13th century). Not to mention the fact that German national ideals, from 1814 onward (basically, a reaction against Napoleonic hegemony) rarely if ever claimed a Roman legacy which they associated with the French principles of the nation-state based upon citizenship, rather than that of the spirit of the Volk that was supposed to stem from the people, aka Lutheran peasants. Just look at Fichte or Wagner. The Germans state that the French are the last degenerate avatar of Romanhood.
explain who cut off the aqueducts, forcing the civilians to return to primitive methods? who sacked and pillaged rome twice? who lowered the literacy of europe? it’s all caused by the germanic barbarians. the renaissance developed from italy as a response against barbaric law from germanics.
Explain how the Roman Senate actually allowed Alaric to pillage Rome (though not its churches, and to only make prisoners from the aristocracy to get ransom) to end Honorius' 410 authority crisis because he wasn't able to make himself respected, when Stilicho, his Vandal-born magister militum, whom he assassinated in Pavia, actually repelled Alaric twice in 402-403.
This was institutionalised, therefore, it shows Alaric himself and his successor Athaulf (who married Honorius' sister) could represent Roman authority. Not to mention Rome wasn't a political capital anymore ever since Maxentius (312). Politically, this sack had no direct consequence. Symbolically, it's of course another story
Rome destroyed itself, the worst the Germans and English did was go through the pockets of a corpse.
Anglo-Saxon varangians fought at the final battle of Constantinople, and prior to the collapse of the western Roman empire much of its army were made up of Germanics since the Romans lost interest in actually defending Rome.
If you actually did your research instead of regurgitation blatantly false historical information you would know that Germanics didn't utterly destroy the Roman empire, by then it was in gross decline, and much of those Germans already had Roman citizenship and were promised land under the foederati system.
Complete bollocks, the empire degraded and by the time any wannabe tribe leader claimed parts of rome there was basically nobody caring about it, rome did not collapse in a day, it degraded very slowly over the centuries, the rome of octavian augustus was just a myth by the 5th century even for the roman nobility
By remembering their ancestors founded Rome.
Did they? Pretty sure it was Italians' Lombardic and Ostrogothic ancestors who did that
still the same germanic barbarians
The Romans deserved it and I'm proud my ancestors destroyed their gay sissy empire
To form a far worse one and kill the entire white race by doing it, thank germs the eternal enemies of the white race
The Germans were defending the white race.
Defended so well that now the craddle of white civilization is getting eroded and probably won't have a single white living in the next century, good defense bro
The Visigoths were closer to modern Poles than to fricking Anglos
You don't mean that culturally at all.
Odd blamegame. Britain and France declare war on Germany over the Danzig strip after Poles attack Germany, and your argument is victim blaming.
Gott strafe England
That's a saying devised by a Europhobic rabbinic.
The truth is England strafe'd themselves.
This is the part where you claim the ost myth is real and then I remind you that Poland was given a general government when in the past Poland would have been wiped off the map. You're about to tell a string of three lies back to back, starting with chapter eight of Mein Kampf.
>ost myth
what myth lol?
>image attached
poland was consistently given a level of self-rule after the napoleonic wars far higher than the general government
>congress poland
>polish ssr
>german regency kingdom
mostly lead by actual poles instead of a german (hans frank) whom dismissed all poles as stateless and actively began the process of annexation
>i- i said you were gonna do thing so you can't d- do it anymore!
moron
>Germany wanted that
wehreboos either just as dishonest as or too moronic to read their leaders' own writing
Live by the sword die by the sword
Anglo-Saxons only entered Britannia at the end when the Romans had already pulled out and the descendants of the Germanics in Germany at most when into Germania provinces. Italy and Spain have more descendants of people who actually sacked Rome
Rome destroyed itself
When the Germans finally successfully invaded the old Roman empire they found nothing but the decrepit ruins of old former glory