How do i get a complete OS9 experience on Linux?
I'm not just talking about window management which I can get with MLVWM but what about all the other features that OS9 had?
How do i get a complete OS9 experience on Linux?
I'm not just talking about window management which I can get with MLVWM but what about all the other features that OS9 had?
macOS really went down hill after 9
How so?
nextstep is superior
MacOS Classic was a dumpster fire. There's a reason programs like RAM Doubler existed for Mac but not Windows 95. Windows 95 had separate protected address spaces for each process with a TLB. MacOS had a flat address space with regions assigned to programs. Memory fragmentation was a thing. Swap was not. RAM doubler type programs provided swap and some way of defragmenting your memory.
MacOS Classic was also a cooperative multitasking system, so if one program got stuck in a loop and didn't yield the CPU, the whole system would freeze and you'd have to go for the powet button.
>Memory fragmentation was a thing.
what
please be shitposting
they're talking about the UI doofus. if i told you windows 2000 was my favorite windows you'd probably say some dumb shit like DUHHHH IDS OBSOLETE, IDS 32 BIT!!!!!
>MacOS Classic was also a cooperative multitasking system, so if one program got stuck in a loop and didn't yield the CPU, the whole system would freeze and you'd have to go for the powet button.
That's the thing... *IF*. Happens far less thans to the hardware and software being closely developed and poorly written programs weren't popular (for obvious reasons).
Remember that Windows 9x has protected memory but it's almost entirely useless, driver related crashes thanks to so many broken drivers being out there at the time were so common and usually non-recoverable, meanwhile even though you didn't have true protected memory on Classic Mac OS, you could usually still force terminate a program if it missbehaved and save your work and restart manually.
How are zoomers this moronic? System 9 fricking sucked. Every week or so you'd get "A critical system error occurred: error type 41" or some other indecipherable error with no way to fix. Talk with any Mac developer who was alive and using that garbage at the time and they may even tell you how they needed to recover parts of e-mails and unsaved documents by entering MacBug and extracting strings out before rebooting the damn machine.
On top of that, if one program froze, basically the entire system froze, since there wasn't multitasking in the system. Multitasking was an after-the-fact thing and implemented as a hack where programs were trusted to pass control of the CPU over to the next program. Lastly, basically every single program wanted to install an extension since the OS lacked so much basic functionality and if one extension went down, guess what? so did your entire fricking system. Even if you stick with Apple-only software, guess what? They use extensions, too.
"""macOS""" improved precisely because Apple decided to give up on their dumpster fire of an OS and acquire an entire company just to be able to use an objectively superior one with everything they've wanted.
>foothomosexual
opinion disregarded
>implying zoomers can listen to anyone
Good one
>Every week or so you'd get "A critical system error occurred: error type 41" or some other indecipherable error with no way to fix.
That was in general normal at the time. Literally everything from Windows to MacOS to AmigaOS ran into something like that once a week if you used your computer 8 hours a day, every day.
See
I was alive and developer too, I used it back then, including several other systems and I have all those old systems to this day, not just Apple ones.
I'd never claim it was better than OS X, but OS X only had two actually good releases too, Tiger and Leopard.
eh, I think Tiger is mostly viewed with nostalgia lens. It was the first release that had a stable KPI, I'll give it that, but it was very lacking in lots of basic POSIX functionality (e.g. no monotonic clocks lol, you have to work around with Mach messages to a clock service, which has HUGE overhead).
Leopard is barely a step above Leopard in this regard (e.g. missing atomic operations in libgcc) and the only threading library you get are pthreads, and even then, it's still lacking in many areas (e.g. unnamed semaphores), which made porting software from other Unix OSes pretty tough.
I never had any problems porting and/or compiling and running UNIX / Linux software on Tiger or Leopard.
>Every week
you mean every 5 minutes
you can't breathe near macshit without it crashbombing
I used OS9 from like 1997 until like 2003.
I rarely had crashes.
It was an amazing OS. OS 7.1 could run happily with 8MB RAM and a 40MB HD.
I could watch fricking videos on an 80MHz CPU.
Most likely fvwm, its such a moldable window manager you can literally turn it into anything. A good example would be the common desktop enviornment clone.
>using fvwm when this exists
>No git repo to this day
It's dead.
>not using troonycord
>can't access nice things
Shame for you.
>not using troonycord
Which channel do I need to join for prism WM?
Sorry, cool people only.
Ah, so it's vaporware, nice dude. Really going for that aesthetic, huh?
It's real, the picture in the post are of the real thing, not a mockup.
Shut the frick up attentiongay. Go seek approval on reddit instead you frickin clown
also: it's a mockup
>it's real
Literally no github link. TRUST THE PLAN! 2 MORE WEEKS!
You just avoided pajeet malware
>Patty Patterson
>Redd*t
Oh so it's troonyware
just ressource hack your Mac os9 and change the name into linux xD
I rename mac os into steve jobs
Why would you ever want to do that?
It was a good OS except for the memory management system that they used back then.
>How do i get a complete OS9 experience on Linux?
Write a script to reboot your computer at random intervals to simulate the lack of memory protection in OS9.
Unironically 9x crashed more with memory protection than OS 8/9 without. Mostly because drivers.
Oh, the os 9 shareware scene.., never were there so many goofy, quirky games. Great times. Still a shame my parents bought me a fricking performa so I ended up a macboy.
Just run it in BasiliskII, it's more than fast enough. You can even get Internet with it.
Sheepshaver or QEMU.
BasiliskII can't run PPC-only MacOS releases like 8.5 through 9.2.2.
One thing that I still miss to this day is the application switcher in the top right of the menu bar. It was kinda like virtual desktops, instead of constantly minimising and resizing windows you’d just pick the application you want and everything would be brought forward. Super fast and super snappy. This was really useful in programs with lots of different windows like photoshop or final cut.
GNOME2/MATE has this.
It's called "window selector" in MATE.
Still works this way in Gnome 3 for multi-window apps like Gimp. It just has its 'activities' switcher in the top left corner.
you dont
The sheepshaver emulator works on linux and can run OS 9
Mac OS 9 the kernel was irredeemable garbage caused by transistor poverty of the mid-80s. Mac OS 9 the user interface was pretty good and worth recreating, Apple was better at following their own HIG back then.
for me, it's 7.5
you don't want the os9 experience zoomer
theres a reason people run linux and openbsd on their g3s and not this trash
but if you want a poor clone of the wm then download mwm, good luck getting oit built on modern distros. works on arch, i think
not that your actually doing anything but pursueing your gay ass cringy zoomer vaporwave aesthetic for one single post in whatever desktop thread is active
>theres a reason people run linux and openbsd on their g3s and not this trash
I'm a boomer retro macgay and I don't really know anyone who runs Linux or NetBSD on their G3 machines, outside of just testing once or twice, it's always OS 9 and Tiger dual boot.
I know a lot of people with different G3 machines, including myself.
7 > 8 > 9
Its been a while, but I like running Linux on G3s. When running Linux on a G4, does the AltiVec ever get used? I sort of thought it didnt, so actually preferred running Linux on G3s over G4s, since it seemed like a waste of the G4. G3s also had much lower TDP which I like.
mwm and motif compile fine on everything
>trying to emulate the os9 experience when windowmaker exists
Jobs perfected the GUI at NeXT and there is no reason to frick around with inferior bullshit
I thought this was called gnustep
window maker is a gnustep-based window manager for X
The settings/preferences window for some reason never works in Arch, only in Debian.
You need to search for it as the path in the menu is wrong.
I think it was under /usr/share/something
https://apple.fandom.com/wiki/Application_menu
cont.
http://www.ortabe.com/downloads/
>freetard can't afford a mac
>desperately tries to cake makeup on his troonOS to make it look like macOS
>fails so miserably it's not even uncanny valley, it's off the deep end
many such cases! SAD!
stupid bot
Just got an iBook G4 with Tiger and learned about Classic Mode.. it's fricking kino to run os9 apps in 10.4. plus tons of sites/foreigns archive a bunch of classic apps. It's great I've been playing Oregon Trail and shit.
pics or it didn't happen