Go to Libya, go to the beach and look for young boys, then pay them to have sex with you, then go to Death Valley and take LSD, write it up as some profound revelation about your penis, then go lecture about it to befuddled 20 somethings. Set Philosophy back 100 years.
Plato killed philosophy when he created the academia, which just created some huge larpers, and philosophy was buried when the bourgeois revived it and meme the peasants into higher education. The net result is that now the bourgeois academia is full of humanists who just push for humanism.
Should I read Foucault if I kind if hated school? I always thought it was slightly oppressive, as far as I know this is something he talks about, right?
Of course it is oppressive. Any structured environment is inherently oppressive on some level. If you don't like it go live in a forest, or just learn to deal with it, manchild.
He knew it existed he just plugged his ears and pretended it didn't because getting gangbanged in s&m clubs was more important than facts and le science™
Well considering AIDS is a CIA created disease, he is partially correct
2 years ago
Anonymous
You also have to remember that at that time the French were absolutely fricking clueless about what was going on in America. The obvious joke of the image is that Foucault was dumb because he was ignoring the massive panic over AIDs at the time, but again, the French actually didn't know. Foucault getting told that GRID even existed meant that he was one of the very few Frenchmen who'd even heard of this, and it was coming into France alongside dumb shit like "genital mutilation reduces masturbation rates among boys t. rabbi".
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's just willfull ignorance on your part. Are you really expecting me to believe that an ENS educated homosexual was naive about sexually transmitted diseases being rampant within the gay community. Frick off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
HIV was first isolated in a lab in 1981. Gaetan Dugas (pronounced "gay-ton do-guys") began working for Air Canada in 1974. The quotation is from 1981. Foucault died of HIV in 1984. Foucault was also French and France was comically isolated from the Anglosphere at the time (remember that most of how France perceived the US at the time came from Franz fanon's cuckold erotica). Secondly, no, it was not rampant in the gay community at the time, it wouldn't take off in the US until around the same time that Foucault died. In fact, Foucault's death is what lead to it receiving attention in continental Europe because it came completely out of the blue.
So, what you're actually asking me is if I expect you to believe that a Frenchmen would be aware of a completely new disease that was barely understood on the other side of the planet. That is true, because it is true.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Just because it wasn't officially identified by science until the early 80s doesn't mean the gays didn't know abou it. By 1981 everyone in the gay community knew the bug was running rampant. They already had experience with outbreaks of gonorrhea warts and herpes so they knew something was up when their fellow queers started getting constantly sick and wasting away. Like the other quotes prove his friends already warned him about the bug but he didn't care as long as he got stretched out and topped.
2 years ago
Anonymous
interesting that aids started spreading in the west right after 1976 bicentennial celebration in nyc where a bunch of navy ships docked in the city
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's just willfull ignorance on your part. Are you really expecting me to believe that an ENS educated homosexual was naive about sexually transmitted diseases being rampant within the gay community. Frick off.
This is technically incorrect. In 1981 it was isolated, but it was referred to as GRID (Gay-Related Immuno-Deficiency disease), and the discovery of a singular virus (there's actually two related viruses that cause HIV but that's semantics) was being suppressed by the media in all around the world. "Gay Rights" was a huge ideological win for Liberalism and Progressivism, so it was seen as anathema to suggest that a fricking virus could get in the way of the grand religious crusade. GRID was popularly assumed to be caused by drugs and exhaustion. The Left's answer to this was, of course, to provide government funded snackbars to gay sex clubs to keep people's stamina up.
This was accepted by the Moral Majority of the time who, similarly, rejected the idea of a virus causing the disease in favor of the view that it was a miracle sent by Yahweh to purge the sinful (the biological origination of the disease would thus have been materialistic and not an actual miracle).
2 years ago
Anonymous
>GRID was popularly assumed to be caused by drugs and exhaustion. The Left's answer to this was, of course, to provide government funded snackbars to gay sex clubs to keep people's stamina up.
Can't find much on this, can I get a contemporaneous source
2 years ago
Anonymous
>contemporaneous source
Not that guy but why would you want information from a source you know will be biased towards a modern political agenda?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Contemporaneous as in from that time period, not contemporary as in now
I've seen so far a 1982 NY Times article that already was assuming a bloodborne pathogen but nothing from the 1981 and prior time frame that anon mentioned
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not bloodborne but anyone with at least room temperature iq knew it was definitely an STD.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The article from '82 made mention of a sample of female and heterosexual male patients that were also known IV drug users, but yes, the emphasis is on homosexuality males
I would still like to see information from the time period that suggests widespread belief in "drugs and exhaustion" being the primary cause as that anon averred as well as information on early government funded preventative measures as he had mentioned
2 years ago
Anonymous
. We spent a lot of time tracking down amyl nitrite. I sent Carlos Rendon, my epidemiology assistant, into the Jaguar Bookstore or the Ambush, and I think even the Mine Shaft, to buy amyl nitrite "poppers" that the gays were using to give themselves a sexual rush. He brought them back to us and we sent them down to CDC in Atlanta, and they analyzed them. They came up with amyl nitrite as the active ingredient.
Well, if AIDS is an infectious disease and amyl nitrite is a toxin, it wouldn't cause the infection, but could it be a cofactor, or could it be activating an infectious agent? So we spent time investigating amyl nitrite. Finally, two years later when the CDC's computer analysis reporter came out, it said, "Forget it, it's not amyl nitrite." But we had lost time and effort looking at that possibility.
https://oac.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt2m3n98v1;NAAN=13030&doc.view=frames&chunk.id=d0e3338&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e801&brand=calisphere
Not exactly what you are looking for but close
2 years ago
Anonymous
Found something closer to what you asked:
I think mainly the increasing numbers. And the ignorance that we had as to the etiology. We weren't sure if it was a toxin, whether it was bacterial, what it was. We had a sense about mode of spread. Everyone was talking about poppers. Especially related to KS [Kaposi's sarcoma]. There was every kind of conspiracy theory.
2 years ago
Anonymous
1981: Durack at Duke suggests amyl nitrites ("poppers") might cause immune dysfunction.
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You gays need to read the salo forum aids thread
2 years ago
Anonymous
This one?
https://web.archive.org/web/20200618004225/https://salo-forum.com/index.php?threads/patient-zero-and-the-early-days-of-hiv-aids.3167/
2 years ago
Anonymous
Found something closer to what you asked:
I think mainly the increasing numbers. And the ignorance that we had as to the etiology. We weren't sure if it was a toxin, whether it was bacterial, what it was. We had a sense about mode of spread. Everyone was talking about poppers. Especially related to KS [Kaposi's sarcoma]. There was every kind of conspiracy theory.
Interesting, thank you, anon
It doesn't seem as if the nitrates were taken as anything more than one possibility among many with what ive read so far. I even saw one idea that suggested semen being introduced to the bloodstream as a possible cause
1981: Durack at Duke suggests amyl nitrites ("poppers") might cause immune dysfunction.
-
You gays need to read the salo forum aids thread
This one?
https://web.archive.org/web/20200618004225/https://salo-forum.com/index.php?threads/patient-zero-and-the-early-days-of-hiv-aids.3167/
I'll look through that, thank you. I'm mostly interested in era specific articles on proposed etiology and early social programs, though, and the majority of what I've read in that thread seem to be portions of interviews taken much later
Is that Michel Foucault? That homie has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Paris VIII WC. That shit had to be the tightest, Frenchest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Foucault screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That homie frotted my wiener until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That homie Foucault and I been fricking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Foucault, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass homies either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That homie Michel Foucault stole my heart and drank my seed.
For a real answer:
Start with "Panopticism" from Discipline and Punish, then "We Other Victorians" (the first chapter of History of Sexuality) and last "What is an Author?". That'd give you a good intro into his major concepts. From there depends on what aspect of Foucault you like if any.
He considered christian commandments of chastity to be a cope used by people who would be too "degenerate" (in his own words) otherwise to have control over themselves and indulge in moderation. This is NOT a statement that would defend current-day style sexual libertinism, and if i am somehow wrong about this and he said something else elsewhere, feel free to quote him on that. (and i doubt you can--hedonism is quite precisely what he describes as The Last Man)
Twilight of the Idols, Essay 4, Aphorism 2. >The same means, castration and extirpation, are instinctively chosen for waging war against a passion, by those who are too weak of will, too degenerate, to impose some sort of moderation upon it; by those natures who, to speak in metaphor (—and without metaphor), need la Trappe, or some kind of ultimatum of war, a gulf set between themselves and a passion. Only degenerates find radical methods indispensable: weakness of will, or more strictly speaking, the inability not to react to a stimulus, is in itself simply another form of degeneracy.
Sure, Nietzsche endorsed not hedonism, but a red blooded, temperate, unashamed participation in healthy sexual activity, both heterosexual and homosexual.
2 years ago
Anonymous
That's a very interesting statement, Mr. Anonymous. Would you be so kind to quote for us the passage in one of Nietzsche's works where he says precisely that?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The anon that posted on IQfy is a total fricking homosexual
- Nietzsche
2 years ago
Anonymous
I was being ironic, dude. That guy i was replying to is probably one of the people who are still seething at this post from the other neetzsche thread, lmao.
start with his pendulum
Get into pedophilic porn. Get AIDS.
>Get into pedophilic porn. Get AIDS.
Go to Libya, go to the beach and look for young boys, then pay them to have sex with you, then go to Death Valley and take LSD, write it up as some profound revelation about your penis, then go lecture about it to befuddled 20 somethings. Set Philosophy back 100 years.
Plato killed philosophy when he created the academia, which just created some huge larpers, and philosophy was buried when the bourgeois revived it and meme the peasants into higher education. The net result is that now the bourgeois academia is full of humanists who just push for humanism.
I've heard it was really easy to get into him while he was alive.
XD
Discipline and Punish
Start by frequenting shota threads on /b/ and furiously jerking off to the pictures. From then on you will certainly be in the right path
Should I read Foucault if I kind if hated school? I always thought it was slightly oppressive, as far as I know this is something he talks about, right?
Yes, in
.
Of course it is oppressive. Any structured environment is inherently oppressive on some level. If you don't like it go live in a forest, or just learn to deal with it, manchild.
That’s Grothendieck
Used to be you had to go to a bath house.
You buy as many of his books as you can and trash them all. Consider it a service to the rest of the world.
he was a good teacher
Become a homosexual pedophile
And intentional hiv spreader.
He can't have intentionally spread HIV if he didn't even believe it existed.
He knew it existed he just plugged his ears and pretended it didn't because getting gangbanged in s&m clubs was more important than facts and le science™
Well considering AIDS is a CIA created disease, he is partially correct
You also have to remember that at that time the French were absolutely fricking clueless about what was going on in America. The obvious joke of the image is that Foucault was dumb because he was ignoring the massive panic over AIDs at the time, but again, the French actually didn't know. Foucault getting told that GRID even existed meant that he was one of the very few Frenchmen who'd even heard of this, and it was coming into France alongside dumb shit like "genital mutilation reduces masturbation rates among boys t. rabbi".
That's just willfull ignorance on your part. Are you really expecting me to believe that an ENS educated homosexual was naive about sexually transmitted diseases being rampant within the gay community. Frick off.
HIV was first isolated in a lab in 1981. Gaetan Dugas (pronounced "gay-ton do-guys") began working for Air Canada in 1974. The quotation is from 1981. Foucault died of HIV in 1984. Foucault was also French and France was comically isolated from the Anglosphere at the time (remember that most of how France perceived the US at the time came from Franz fanon's cuckold erotica). Secondly, no, it was not rampant in the gay community at the time, it wouldn't take off in the US until around the same time that Foucault died. In fact, Foucault's death is what lead to it receiving attention in continental Europe because it came completely out of the blue.
So, what you're actually asking me is if I expect you to believe that a Frenchmen would be aware of a completely new disease that was barely understood on the other side of the planet. That is true, because it is true.
Just because it wasn't officially identified by science until the early 80s doesn't mean the gays didn't know abou it. By 1981 everyone in the gay community knew the bug was running rampant. They already had experience with outbreaks of gonorrhea warts and herpes so they knew something was up when their fellow queers started getting constantly sick and wasting away. Like the other quotes prove his friends already warned him about the bug but he didn't care as long as he got stretched out and topped.
interesting that aids started spreading in the west right after 1976 bicentennial celebration in nyc where a bunch of navy ships docked in the city
This is technically incorrect. In 1981 it was isolated, but it was referred to as GRID (Gay-Related Immuno-Deficiency disease), and the discovery of a singular virus (there's actually two related viruses that cause HIV but that's semantics) was being suppressed by the media in all around the world. "Gay Rights" was a huge ideological win for Liberalism and Progressivism, so it was seen as anathema to suggest that a fricking virus could get in the way of the grand religious crusade. GRID was popularly assumed to be caused by drugs and exhaustion. The Left's answer to this was, of course, to provide government funded snackbars to gay sex clubs to keep people's stamina up.
This was accepted by the Moral Majority of the time who, similarly, rejected the idea of a virus causing the disease in favor of the view that it was a miracle sent by Yahweh to purge the sinful (the biological origination of the disease would thus have been materialistic and not an actual miracle).
>GRID was popularly assumed to be caused by drugs and exhaustion. The Left's answer to this was, of course, to provide government funded snackbars to gay sex clubs to keep people's stamina up.
Can't find much on this, can I get a contemporaneous source
>contemporaneous source
Not that guy but why would you want information from a source you know will be biased towards a modern political agenda?
Contemporaneous as in from that time period, not contemporary as in now
I've seen so far a 1982 NY Times article that already was assuming a bloodborne pathogen but nothing from the 1981 and prior time frame that anon mentioned
Not bloodborne but anyone with at least room temperature iq knew it was definitely an STD.
The article from '82 made mention of a sample of female and heterosexual male patients that were also known IV drug users, but yes, the emphasis is on homosexuality males
I would still like to see information from the time period that suggests widespread belief in "drugs and exhaustion" being the primary cause as that anon averred as well as information on early government funded preventative measures as he had mentioned
. We spent a lot of time tracking down amyl nitrite. I sent Carlos Rendon, my epidemiology assistant, into the Jaguar Bookstore or the Ambush, and I think even the Mine Shaft, to buy amyl nitrite "poppers" that the gays were using to give themselves a sexual rush. He brought them back to us and we sent them down to CDC in Atlanta, and they analyzed them. They came up with amyl nitrite as the active ingredient.
Well, if AIDS is an infectious disease and amyl nitrite is a toxin, it wouldn't cause the infection, but could it be a cofactor, or could it be activating an infectious agent? So we spent time investigating amyl nitrite. Finally, two years later when the CDC's computer analysis reporter came out, it said, "Forget it, it's not amyl nitrite." But we had lost time and effort looking at that possibility.
https://oac.cdlib.org/view?docId=kt2m3n98v1;NAAN=13030&doc.view=frames&chunk.id=d0e3338&toc.depth=1&toc.id=d0e801&brand=calisphere
Not exactly what you are looking for but close
Found something closer to what you asked:
I think mainly the increasing numbers. And the ignorance that we had as to the etiology. We weren't sure if it was a toxin, whether it was bacterial, what it was. We had a sense about mode of spread. Everyone was talking about poppers. Especially related to KS [Kaposi's sarcoma]. There was every kind of conspiracy theory.
1981: Durack at Duke suggests amyl nitrites ("poppers") might cause immune dysfunction.
-
You gays need to read the salo forum aids thread
This one?
https://web.archive.org/web/20200618004225/https://salo-forum.com/index.php?threads/patient-zero-and-the-early-days-of-hiv-aids.3167/
Interesting, thank you, anon
It doesn't seem as if the nitrates were taken as anything more than one possibility among many with what ive read so far. I even saw one idea that suggested semen being introduced to the bloodstream as a possible cause
I'll look through that, thank you. I'm mostly interested in era specific articles on proposed etiology and early social programs, though, and the majority of what I've read in that thread seem to be portions of interviews taken much later
>homosexual pedophile
The former already implies the latter so there's need to type out both
be a homosexual
Read an introductory book
Watch these:
This one is a shit video with an agenda but does have a good overview of his life
This two are closer to his philosophy
Read this:
https://www.amazon.com/Foucault-Beginners-Lydia-Alix-Fillingham/dp/1934389129
Then his books:
Madness and Civilization
Discipline and Punish
Lectures
History of sexuality
You don’t need to read the rest unless you are researching or if you love his works.
actual good answer well done
Foucault looks like an uberchad
Forgot pic
Can someone put these pics side by side
Foucault the Uberchad
Start with Éléments de géométrie algébrique
At the gay sauna. Make sure to have AIDS and don't wear a condom
Start with fisting
Foucault is a pseud, a Jordan Peterson of his time. Only reason to read him is for rugpulls on libs.
Don't, get into Sartre if you want to get into French homosex philosophy
Usually you just had to ask him.
Is that Michel Foucault? That homie has been on my mind. No cap, I been thinking about that time when I barebacked him raw in a Paris VIII WC. That shit had to be the tightest, Frenchest, wettest boy pussy I've ever laid pipe into. I swear to God, the most heavenly high is gargling that wonderboy's nuts while going fist deep into his shitter. I had Foucault screaming in the sheets with head too ridiculous to ignore. That homie frotted my wiener until he busted on my mouth, I had to return the favor. That homie Foucault and I been fricking non-stop ever since, but keep that shit on the DL. He does that shit for free. If you're gonna ask me how to "long" Foucault, I'll be deadass. All you gotta do is ask, be straight up, and get physical real quick. Touch his nuts, get on ya knees, talk your shit. He doesn't play around with no pansy-ass homies either. He likes his men manly, and his dick thick. Dark skin, 6'5 is the minimum and I ain't talking about height boy.
That homie Michel Foucault stole my heart and drank my seed.
be a young twink
Begome gay pedophile
Start with the Greeks.
What other philosophers have used Foucault's biopolitics in their own thinking?
Agamben
Every queer gender theorist
Bauer and Marx
Contrapoints
You must first invent the universe (and then molest a kid)
For a real answer:
Start with "Panopticism" from Discipline and Punish, then "We Other Victorians" (the first chapter of History of Sexuality) and last "What is an Author?". That'd give you a good intro into his major concepts. From there depends on what aspect of Foucault you like if any.
Nietzsche did want sexual liberation
He considered christian commandments of chastity to be a cope used by people who would be too "degenerate" (in his own words) otherwise to have control over themselves and indulge in moderation. This is NOT a statement that would defend current-day style sexual libertinism, and if i am somehow wrong about this and he said something else elsewhere, feel free to quote him on that. (and i doubt you can--hedonism is quite precisely what he describes as The Last Man)
Twilight of the Idols, Essay 4, Aphorism 2.
>The same means, castration and extirpation, are instinctively chosen for waging war against a passion, by those who are too weak of will, too degenerate, to impose some sort of moderation upon it; by those natures who, to speak in metaphor (—and without metaphor), need la Trappe, or some kind of ultimatum of war, a gulf set between themselves and a passion. Only degenerates find radical methods indispensable: weakness of will, or more strictly speaking, the inability not to react to a stimulus, is in itself simply another form of degeneracy.
Sure, Nietzsche endorsed not hedonism, but a red blooded, temperate, unashamed participation in healthy sexual activity, both heterosexual and homosexual.
That's a very interesting statement, Mr. Anonymous. Would you be so kind to quote for us the passage in one of Nietzsche's works where he says precisely that?
>The anon that posted on IQfy is a total fricking homosexual
- Nietzsche
I was being ironic, dude. That guy i was replying to is probably one of the people who are still seething at this post from the other neetzsche thread, lmao.
Start by signing up for Grindr
No clue, but if you're a 12 year old boy then Foucault will get into you!
Don't think Plato or Socrates ever died of AIDs. LMAO.
The CIA wasn't around then, obviously.