How do you morally justify killing and eating something that cannot defend itself against your savagery?
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How do you morally justify killing and eating something that cannot defend itself against your savagery?
A homie's gotta eat
I will not kill it.
The moral question aside, I've always had a weird thing about meat since I was a kid and first realized it was an animal corpse I was touching. Particularly whole bodies of smaller animals, like rotisserie chickens. It's not as big a deal with something like a steak which is just a slice and not obviously a body part. But I can't fricking stand touching a whole corpse, or even a whole part like a leg. Especially with skin on it. Maybe tism, idk. But anyway, this is more so why I trend toward vegan options, just because the idea of eating dead body parts makes me feel uneasy.
>savagery
How is being "savage" here an issue exactly? Why must we sterilize everything, every single one of our basic instincts? We are not machines, we are living beings with needs and cravings.
Sustainable hunting and farming is possible and beneficial as well as responding to our predatory cravings.
Lamb in pic rel is not even a wild species, it is our creation. Made to respond to our demands for meat and fabric. Livestocks such as this one are living resources. The only protection and care they need is over the quality of the finished product
Children nowadays grow soft, naive weak. They get allergies and irrational fears from being sheltered from everything. They grow unhealthy and perverted minds and body.
Take your child on some of your hunts and show them their roots.
Avoid them to have thoughts like leading to irrational aversions.
Make them distinguish pets from wildlife from preys from livestock. Show them nature documentaries, make them witness the wild so they stop thinking everything is a puppy kitty to cuddle.
Have them kill a prey, expose them to death. Make them grow some much needed mind calluses.
pussy
by making him taste delicious
God wills it.
Animals have no rights because there are no rights in the wild.
Lions don't respect the rights of the zebras they kill.
Killing is good in the wild because it eliminates the weak and unfit which is vital for natural selection.
Since wild animals have no right to a life free of pain, humans have no duty to provide them with one.
This is true for domesticated animals too because they originally came from the wild.
The problem is that the man is superior to any animal and can literally wipe them all out. So in order not to upset the natural balance they have to restrain themselves via morality.
You do realize humans are animals too and our laws/rights are entirely made up, right? They do not exist except in the minds of others who are willing to enforce them.
>rules are made up shit we follow out of practical convenience
yes, your point?
It should be obvious what the point is. If we want to extend it to animals, we can. Nothing is preventing us. Humans used to enslave, kill and even eat each other back in the day because there was no authority preventing us from doing so. In some places, this still goes on. So all we would have to do is adjust our mindsets.
>if we want to
We dont and shouldnt cause we are above all the other animals (Black folk and pajeets and chinks included)
That's your opinion, which used to be widespread and is now the complete opposite. Which proves my point.
This is all completely irrelevant. My only point is that morality and the concept of rights/justice is flexible and only exists in your mind. I'm not saying whether it's good or bad. What I'm saying is that it can be easily changed. Everything you just said was certainly also uttered when one tribe was told to stop killing and eating another tribe they viewed as inferior. Bantus in Africa would probably react this same way if you told them to stop enslaving and eating pygmies. There is no innate morality and they have no inherent rights, unless someone with the power to enforce those ideas holds them. Whether that be the person himself or a higher authority who prevents him from violating those rights the authority believes in.
>Everything you just said was certainly also uttered when one tribe was told to stop killing and eating another tribe they viewed as inferior.
No it wasn't moron. Retaliation was always a possibility and I noted it's not in the case of sheep, there's absolutely no downside unlike when you try to control humans.
>There is no innate morality and they have no inherent rights, unless someone with the power to enforce those ideas holds them.
Braindead commie gobbledyasiatic. The moral sense in mammals evolved based on statistically sampling patterns in reality. They're rules of thumb based on common underlying phenomena that we can't avoid so they may as well be absolute. The European tradition tries to apply reason to formalize those evolved intuitions into rules that help society be more fruitful. Domesticated sheep are fruits of our efforts and they rely on us to want to eat them to reproduce.
>So all we would have to do is adjust our mindsets.
Why? Where did you get the idea that there's a moral dilemma and why are you so sure there is one? Because reality makes you feel icky? That's not what dictates what is moral.
Treating animals like humans is immoral. It will end up hurting other humans and they will retaliate directly or indirectly. Raising and killing animals is moral and good, there are no downsides, not even for the animal that owes its life to this process.
This is why the gnostics are right
No good God would've created this earth.
Animal rights are incompatible with Christianity because God gave us animals to rule over as we see fit
Uhuh God forgot to make them able to repopulate faster than we can kill them.
God commanded humankind to populate, subdue, and rule over the earth but the earth is 80% covered by oceans. So far the oceans are unexplored and there are no permanent human settlements there. Clearly God's first commandment is still unfulfilled. God wants mankind to fill the whole earth and this means farming the sea the way we do land. Farming whales will save them from extinction since they'll be as abundant as cows and pigs. Jesus can't return until all God's commandments are fulfilled.
When man wields the Holy Spirit to throw God's creation out of harmony with God's designs then mankind is begging for God's wrath. It is incumbent upon us to be wise tenders of God's fruits so that we are nourished in both body and soul.
As a young boy I would cry like b***h at the idea of killing a poor little lamb.
As a grown man I would not hesitate to slit its neck and look forward preparing and eating its flesh in various ways.
So you turned from a human with a soul into a cold-hearted Black person.
>muh "god" cited 10 times in the thread, zero times in OP
The absolute state of /x/... I mean IQfy.
Worth it
It is a necessity for the fulfillment of my needs, along with the cattle I consume being bred specifically for a purpose.
>savagery
funny word to use, given that it originally denotes the forest and things of the forest, roughly a word for "wild". Factory farming is the opposite of savagery, it is cruelty.
If I don't eat 'em, the wolves will.
I don't. I'm well aware that if I ever do anything of note, future generations of blue hairs raised on synthmeat will call me a dispicable and barbaric ape, bull down statues of me and take my name off of buildings for consuming the flesh of other sentient but not sapient beings. I am not a product of my times, I know full well animals have a rich inner world, even the smallest insect would prefer to live.
This does not bother me. Smashburgers are worth it.
>even the smallest insect would prefer to live.
Plants prefer to live. Fruit are a special exception where the plant and eater cooperate to the benefit of both.
Sheep are one of the most successful animals on earth due to using humans to spread their seed in exchange for producing tasty lambs as fruit.
tasty
I spent two weeks painstakingly nursing one of my chickens back to health, my neighbors called me a moronic city boy for giving a shit about something as cheep as a chicking.
Immediately, the other chickens killed it when it was reintroduced.
Death to all poultry.
>back to health
You were introducing a sick-looking individual into their group. They felt threatened and acted accordingly.
Ilnesses are no fricking joke
>eating chicken is now vegan because they are ableist scum
That pic is why humans killed all large birds except where the war still rages like Australia. Big bird is a moronic psychopath.
It’s not just killing. It’s justified sacrifice.
You cannot torture or abuse cattle. You have to properly sacrifice them and make use of as much as possible.
The idea is that they sacrifice their lives but they become part of a higher identity in the ontological hierarchy.
When we eat them they become part of us. Literally.
Yeah I don't use the entire cow, I keep the good parts and throw away the rest. No I don't compost it, plastic bags and dumpster is the place it goes.
What a waste, you can sell those parts or give them away to people that know what to do with them. The skin for leather. Bones for marrow, beef stock and meal. Organ meats you don't eat into pet food.
Didn't your mother teach you not to waste?
At least give your dog some oesophagus, it's very healthy for him! Mines always happy
I never knew beef esophagus was good for dogs. Good to know fren. I will stop wasting cow parts now.
yeah abortion should be illegal
You're right, OP. Let's starve to death.
>you can eat plants
that's life you're murdering