How does it feel that what you perceive as incorrect language is being normalised and your language is changing non-linear despite your gatekeeping?
 |
 Tip Your Landlord Shirt $21.68 |
|
How does it feel that what you perceive as incorrect language is being normalised and your language is changing non-linear despite your gatekeeping?
i cannot believe we just accept dutch
I feel bad for English only language plebs.
we still listen to bad bunny though
Puerto Rico is an american colony, it makes sense for the music coming from there to be israelite'd even if it's in Spanish.
Well that's me. I barely know conversational German.
>written in English
Nice LARP, kid.
Makes me feel like I might not be the prol I thought I was. Clinging to the old in order to maintain a status quo you are familiar and comfortable with has always been the roll of bourgeois staple, but I'll be damned if I can get behind most of this gibberish.
Alternately, the masses just wall themselves further and further outside of positions of power by doing this.
There have to be walls to tear down for revolution to occur brother.
How are you going to storm your way into power, when you can't even talk?
With a gun my guy. The frick?
>we're going to form an armed uprising, when we can barely articulate a thought without saying "this is finna giving me a Shrek vibe fr"
How?
Easy if we form the militia solely out of people that talk the same as us and there for understand what we mean. The prols can communicate with other prols just fine. If you can't understand that means you are on the wrong team and will be against the wall when the revolution begins.
You'll walk up to the gates of the rich people house, and immediately get shot by their security who have better tactical training than you.
>There is no way private security can be prols
LMAO. You don't even know how the revolution will be fought.
The rich pay them better than you do.
>What is an ideologue
People who are well read, usually.
I don't even know how to respond to someone so wrong. You live on a different planet.
>>>we're going to form an armed uprising,
that's the heart of communism
If things keep going the way they're going, people wont have the vocabulary to understand communism.
Any actual linguist will tell you that non-standard dialects aren't any less capable of expressing thoughts, they just don't have cultural prestige.
Read Lasch
What specifically by him? Revolt of the elites?
For something this simple, you can read Haven in a Heartless World
Kids these days…
Yes, actually.
Have you seen them?
I have, that’s why I complain about them
I don't. Language will always change and never retain its purity, except in brief moments of beauty.
English will change into various languages, much like what happened with Latin. We already have Spanglish and Taglish, both studied by linguists and considered their own thing.
Something I don't understand about ebonics:
Why do blacks use "they" instead of "their".
"In they head". I can't find a single source that explains this.
Isn't it just Black accents putting less emphasis on the "r"
They avoid using possesive forms for some reason.
It has nothing to do with possessive forms
>they are
>they're
>are they
>their
all get shortened to "they"
They are simply stupid. Its not only blacks, low IQ spicks do similar things and butcher English grammar completely. If you look at eastern euros/japs/koreans/chineese when they learn english their grammar is on point but they struggle with pronunciations. Low IQ monkeys are just simply too stupid to learn complex languages, even if its their native language.
>I can't find a single source that explains this.
You won’t. It’s illegal for scientists and psychologists to point out that the reasoning behind most behaviors of blacks is simply that they’re literally dumb and inferior. The richest blacks are still lower IQ than the poorest whites. Diversity is not our strength, but you can’t legally question that either.
black American English is non-rhotic
Don't most non-rhotic speakers still say "they" and "their" distinctly?
I edit for a living, and I'd say I have a good grasp of right usage, but adherence to propriety is way down the list of things that make for 'good writing'. When words are appropriated for flabby, modish business jargon, the problem lies not in their appropriation, but in the flabby modish use they're put to. Perhaps no body of writing was more vigorous and more freewheeling in its linguistic innovations than the productions of Elizabethan England; yet the Elizabethans rarely struck a false note: they had the instinct for their work, and it's that instinct that counts. When people take refuge in pedantic regulations, nine times out ten it's their lack of instinct that makes them flee so, their lack of a feeling for the fitness of expression. They keep watch at the gates of their dour citadel because they can't trust themselves to venture outside it.
Changing of language isn't the problem, the problem is the changing of it towards primitive modes of expression. You can cope and seethe all you want't but they way zoomers use language degrades the mind and hampers your ability to think more richly.
>primitive modes of expression
What even is that?
vague unspecific buzzwords and slang
>primitive modes of expression
>cope and seethe
you fool, you are becoming what you hate
It hurts, honestly,
I am Czech. The official language here is Czech. But because of the internet, tons of people my age (early adulthood) use English words in their everyday speech. And I do not mean just words that have no Czech equivalent, some people will literally use an English word instead of a very common Czech one, just because it comes to mind first. I have even seen some people use whole English sentences, just because it comes easier to them. I am not sure what hurts more - the fact that they know a foreign language better than their own one, or the shamelessness of it all. Sometimes, I feel like the Czech language is degenerating and it is slowly being replaced by the language of a global superpower.
Ah well, at least I can feel superior to others by actually being able to use my maternal language. My ego saves me once again
In Dutch this happens too. It is called English disease. Not just words and sentences, but also the structure of full Dutch sentences. But words do naturalize. As example "shopping" becomes "sjopping". Etc.
Back in the past, from French a lot of loanwords came from.
If it makes you feel better, this is happening with English in America but nothings replacing it. Humans in my country are losing the ability to translate experience into understandable langauge. What's more is that even those still capable of this integral human function have to translate experience into language and then translate that language (losing even more essence, as is required by translation's methods) into slang, crude idioms, and piss-poor metaphors so as to be semi-comprehensible to their fellow man.
What nonsense. You sound like someone from the middle ages
It's true, people are unable to express themselves without crude idiom, not even the refined idiom of the past. Slang and meme buzzwords are conceptual hammers that make everything look like a nail, even when it isn't. I'm all for simple and clear language but if there is a more eloquent and powerful word, one should use that. They don't know those words and it shows in written communication. Undergrad papers are abysmal and literature is barely removed from fanfiction written by horny teenagers.
Don't hate on erotic literature until you've read the original Kama Sutra. Sexual knowledge is the mark of a gentleman.
>Undergrad papers are abysmal
Why would anyone take your opinion on writing and literature seriously when your own writing is bad?
I know exactly what you mean
it's all so tiresome
Don't worry, the same thing happened to English and it's still a perfectly functional language. There are lots of French words we use now despite English already having words for them, like "castle" instead of "berg", "glory" instead of "wulder", "battle" instead of "hild", "planet" instead of "tungol"...
It feels like watching Latin turn into the Romance languages, I imagine. I don't care what the masses do. I will speak proper English.
MY DRIP SERVES c**t
how do you think we got modern english?
it was a serious of mistakes compiled after the middle ages.
thats how modern languages came to be.
italian is a degenerate version of latin and etc.
>normalised
>gatekeep
Twitter morons have such a distinct pseudointellectual lingo, it’s like their entire identity is based around using big words they don’t really understand to try to sound more educated
>reddit space
That's worse
I believe it's natural for languages to be dynamic, probably because my language is not, nor has it ever been standardized. We only have norms (not standards) for written language.
What's your language?
>If you look at eastern euros/japs/koreans/chineese when they learn english their grammar is on point
Really? I've met people from those places who had real trouble with English grammar.
I love it. Communication is a special interest of mine, and I love seeing how it evolves, and how slang becomes standardized.
Suits you well
>McWhorter has argued that languages naturally tend toward complexity and irregularity, a tendency that is reversed only by adults acquiring the language, and creole formation is simply an extreme example of the latter.
Whaat do we think?
Plausible, though he's a specialist on creoles so it might partially be a matter of "when all you have is a hammer".
That's how language works
There is only life and death