How does the theory of evolution explain the human obsession with gemstones? Why is a translucent rock so much more appealing than an opaque rock?

How does the theory of evolution explain the human obsession with gemstones? Why is a translucent rock so much more appealing than an opaque rock?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >why is thing you don't see often more appealing than thing you can kick the ground and hit

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I see cheeseburgers (yes, I'm American) far more often than I see piles of elephant shit but still find the cheeseburger more appealing.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >yes, I'm American
        This is why

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Food is different. Chili admittedly doesn't look that appetizing but it tastes good. Besides, you're comparing food to nonfood, so its a bad comparison.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That's anti-dung-beetleist!

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nature and evolution cherishes vivid colors in general; see bird plumage and flowers.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because humans value intellectualism and abstract concepts, a very primitive caveman would probably take a bite then throw it away. Abstract thinking allowed us to create tools and strategize plans, and gemstones are almost like the physical manifestation of everything abstract. And it's not like gemstones were popular among peasants, it was a rich person or intellectual hobby that peasants maybe tried to copy.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i dont know OP but for one thing when you look real deep into a gemstone for a minute you don't think or worry about all of your problems. same with a piece of fantastic music or a grand painting or any medium.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Water is shinny. Therefore we evolved to like shinny things.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      leave it to an engineer to spell shiny as if they were afflicted with a debilitating mental illness

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is a translucent rock so much more appealing than an opaque rock?
    Because it has interesting and unusual optical properties. It's visually stimulating. Cool colors and cool geometric patterns that change depending on the viewing angle. What's not to like? You should ask why humans enjoy this kind of visual stimulation in general.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you are a moron for begging the question he's asking why we like shiny rocks and your answer is 'because we like them' / because it's visually stimulating etc... why is it visually stimulating... why do we care at all about them... other animals have no problem ignoring visually stimulating things like mirrors, so why are we not like them... etc... your answer is inadequate

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You are profoundly moronic. Why is this board teeming with clinical subhumans like you, and why aren't they being banned?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          how am i moronic then go on tell me

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm wasn't begging the question. I explained to him that he's asking the wrong question. The problem with subhumans like you is that their pavlovian reddit Black person reactions kick in around 50 chartacters into a post.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          you said he should ask the same question he asked in the op lol... 'why do we like shiny rocks' vs 'why do we like shiny things' <--- your moronic homiebrain thinks these are two substantially different questions... why dont u tell us then homosexual why do humans enjoy this kind of visual stimulation huh... tell us... oh wait u can't because it's the same fricking question dumbass homosexual why don't you google how to debate instead of making shit up on the spot and failing to even move from premise to predicate ur failing to say anything about the topic besides what the topic already says about itself lol calling me moronic you got to be joking go eat pickles homie

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you said he should ask the same question he asked in the op
            Like I said, you are clearly less than human. Not even reading the rest of your post. How do dumb animals like you even remember to breathe?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And here's the other side of the low IQ reddit pseud coin. This board is a dumpster.

            have a nice day

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, you're the same subhuman animal that churned out this

            you said he should ask the same question he asked in the op lol... 'why do we like shiny rocks' vs 'why do we like shiny things' <--- your moronic homiebrain thinks these are two substantially different questions... why dont u tell us then homosexual why do humans enjoy this kind of visual stimulation huh... tell us... oh wait u can't because it's the same fricking question dumbass homosexual why don't you google how to debate instead of making shit up on the spot and failing to even move from premise to predicate ur failing to say anything about the topic besides what the topic already says about itself lol calling me moronic you got to be joking go eat pickles homie

            ? Fricking LOL. Figures.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            im the only person who has said anything of value in this thread

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You have said nothing of value. You need to take your meds and go back to

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          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            why are you so convinced im some envoy of reddit? are you moronic?
            thoughts on this post which i made:

            to the question why do humans value x property there's a definite underlying ontology such that divorced from any subjective, evolution-driven pattern matching that exists in for example our preference of sweet foods there exists some objective aspect of the property onto which perception maps otherwise the mapping is arbitrary... some animals can't see color but that just means they aren't mapped onto it... in the absence of color perception the potassium nitrate in fireworks or whatever is still potassium nitrate and whatever gives something its color is still an objective physical feature of that thing. in mapping the usual colors in a sufficiently dissimilar way nature overshot its target and mapped the spectacular instances of it, as an extension of an originally ad-hoc sense ability.

            ?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >why are you so convinced im some envoy of reddit?
            You sound identical to them in every respect.

            >thoughts on this post
            Low-IQ pseudery. Not-even-wrong-tier.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you have to explain how it's pseud otherwise we can't know if you're saying that because you didn't understand it or because it really is pseud. is it not precise enough? not empirically based? have i convoluted the problem with language? i think i've been sufficiently straightforward and i think anyone who knows what epistemology is can understand this type of language just fine, and that saying anything general about perception without recourse to epistemology is impossible.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you have to explain how it's pseud
            No, I don't. It's immediately apparent on its own.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            appeal to incredulity fallacy

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >sharts out a reference to a reddit fallacy
            Like clockwork.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

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          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And now the reddit pseud is having a full-blown mental breakdown. Nice.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            are you british homie is that why ure insufferable only british and/or british-infected diasporas say 'shart' cuh

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            reddit pls go

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

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      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >other animals
        There are those birds that collect shiny things to try to impress a mate

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >There are those birds that collect shiny things to try to impress a mate

          Nature and evolution cherishes vivid colors in general; see bird plumage and flowers.

          >Nature and evolution cherishes vivid colors in general; see bird plumage and flowers.
          In some birds is it that the males are more colorful to attract a mate?

          Color is one form of distinction, if every flower around is green, and then all the sudden there is a red flower, that might be enticing enough for the pollinators to be intrigued by it, some of it is about standing out, in good ways.

          An attractive man and woman stand out from ugly men and women, attractive ness is desired and attempted to be naturally selected by attractiveness, how to draw and grab and hold attention.

          How can one attractive woman stand out from other attractive women so that maybe the best man will choose her over others, or that she may dazzle and inspire the best men to coo over her.

          Well she can look to the flowers and birds at how they dazzle the eyes; and she can dye her dress many attractive colors and wear colorful stones all over her body, to show she is one with the beauties and glories of delightful nature.

          A man who is attracted to a woman, may try to give a woman clothes and israeliteels to say, I know you are beautiful, but take these and adorn yourself in natures exquisite rarities so that you may sparkle like our father the Sun, glisten with the colors of flowers, and sparkle like the essence of attraction and allure.

          When you cover your body in these gemstones I give you, and look at your hand and smile, as you look at flowers and and smile, catch your reflection and feel happy, to have your simple beige body enhanced by rainbownic mystique and charm, remember the suitor who provided you with these levitating feelings

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Extreme Reddit Pseudery: Episode 2

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    it's probably not an evolutionary adaptation it's probably just the intrinsic properties of shiny rock and vision interacting such that it achieves a certain novelty without any point of contact with evolution. it's partly it's because they stand out from the usual imagery and partly because they're intrinsically more visually interesting as a direct consequence of their actual physical properties and how those relate to the faculty of sight itself.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They look like fruit

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    to the question why do humans value x property there's a definite underlying ontology such that divorced from any subjective, evolution-driven pattern matching that exists in for example our preference of sweet foods there exists some objective aspect of the property onto which perception maps otherwise the mapping is arbitrary... some animals can't see color but that just means they aren't mapped onto it... in the absence of color perception the potassium nitrate in fireworks or whatever is still potassium nitrate and whatever gives something its color is still an objective physical feature of that thing. in mapping the usual colors in a sufficiently dissimilar way nature overshot its target and mapped the spectacular instances of it, as an extension of an originally ad-hoc sense ability.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      And here's the other side of the low IQ reddit pseud coin. This board is a dumpster.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Evo Psych like all other forms of psychology is hardly a science. Memetic evolution might also be just as influential as biological evolution too.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >my political agenda is destroyed by the science of evo psych

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Evo psych is not a science and unlike you I don't have a political agenda, because, I'm not stupid enough to confuse soft-sciences like psychology or sociology with real sciences like chemistry, or aerodynamics etc.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because our ancestors that was curious and inquisitive about exotic things in their environment had more offspring than those that didn't care about anomalous things in their environment.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Nature is a lot of green and brown and beige and grey.

    These colors dazzle the senses with how they stand out. They reward the machinery that developed to so fine tune and fine comb the visual data of the world, so hd clearly.

    Like how music rewards the ear system, pain and pleasure;

    The systems were developed to detect and avoid the pain of being killed by animals; the systems did such a good job, when there is no threat, pleasure is apparent at the sight of their powers of exhibiting and expressing raw qualities;

    We are taken aback by the intricacies and sublimities of nature, we do not live in a boring simply constructed rudimentary world. To take in aesthetic information, to compare and contrast so much aesthetic information, but also yes evolutionary chemicals that may be saying "symmetry and beauty and rarity has been important and useful in the evolutionary past, so you are being provided with a feeling of experiencing something special when you look at this, as you are provided with such a feeling when you look at a well constructed home, or smell cooking steak"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ayyyy get your girl some shiny rocksss

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