Good question. Are there ARM laptops that actually have a future? I'm not enthusiastic that the Qualcomm ones will be supported by Linux long or at all.
I've been using an iMac M1 for a while now, I am a software engineer so I have an IDE open all the time plus other tools, but I also use Photoshop with big files in my free time.
It surprised me how smooth and quiet it is, while performing quite well under most loads.
Then one week ago my company gave me a Macbook pro with an Intel i9, supposedly the best x86 cpu shipped with this laptop. Man, what a piece of shit. It runs HOT all the time, fans spin up like crazy and the whole thing becomes a noisy mess. Absolutely disgusting.
I can see why Apple ditched x86.
it's a 2019 Intel i9 2,3GHz 8 core, the last model featuring the touchbar I believe.
It's not a ten years old laptop anon, it's faster than most laptops out there.
It's just incredibly noisy and hot under full load. That feels wrong.
I have an i7 from last year (alder lake) laptop and it does produce a lot of heat and noise, when I'm gaming it can increase the room temperature by several degrees C. But it is a good laptop.
Yeah and x86 is an extension of 8080, there's even binary compatible x86 CPUs to 8080
So you're saying we should call it 8080 and not x86? at least by your logic
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>Yeah and x86 is an extension of 8080
It isn't. 8086 is substantially different. For one 8080 had an accumulator design (all operation results go to A) which 8086 doesn't
>Does it even matter?
Yes >CPU's are so advanced that the instruction set is merely an abstraction for what happens under the hood.
All that complexity has a cost in terms of debugging and time to market, power consumption, latency and chip area. The x86 is patched up beyond belief, all without retiring junk like BOUNDS or x87. That has a cost in code size. The x64 is better but they were still beholden to some legacy gunk.
ARM has been willing to retire misfeatures as the ISA is updated.
>he doesn't know
good way to out yourself as a completely moron, homosexual
Good question. Are there ARM laptops that actually have a future? I'm not enthusiastic that the Qualcomm ones will be supported by Linux long or at all.
my bet is it will outlive arm and maybe some other memes like riscv
I've been using an iMac M1 for a while now, I am a software engineer so I have an IDE open all the time plus other tools, but I also use Photoshop with big files in my free time.
It surprised me how smooth and quiet it is, while performing quite well under most loads.
Then one week ago my company gave me a Macbook pro with an Intel i9, supposedly the best x86 cpu shipped with this laptop. Man, what a piece of shit. It runs HOT all the time, fans spin up like crazy and the whole thing becomes a noisy mess. Absolutely disgusting.
I can see why Apple ditched x86.
Considering that the last Macbook Pro that had a i9 in it was a Coffee Lake chip that would make sense. Why is your company giving you an EOL laptop?
it's a 2019 Intel i9 2,3GHz 8 core, the last model featuring the touchbar I believe.
It's not a ten years old laptop anon, it's faster than most laptops out there.
It's just incredibly noisy and hot under full load. That feels wrong.
I have an i7 from last year (alder lake) laptop and it does produce a lot of heat and noise, when I'm gaming it can increase the room temperature by several degrees C. But it is a good laptop.
What? Almost everything non x86 relies on Linux. Did you meant keeping Windows alive?
Anon, x86 has been irrelevant for almost 20 years now.
they ain't wrong, AMD64 / X64 has replaced X86
AMD64 is merely just an extension of x86.
Yeah and x86 is an extension of 8080, there's even binary compatible x86 CPUs to 8080
So you're saying we should call it 8080 and not x86? at least by your logic
Yes
>Yeah and x86 is an extension of 8080
It isn't. 8086 is substantially different. For one 8080 had an accumulator design (all operation results go to A) which 8086 doesn't
Just like C, it is here to stay.
Does it even matter? CPU's are so advanced that the instruction set is merely an abstraction for what happens under the hood.
>Does it even matter?
Yes
>CPU's are so advanced that the instruction set is merely an abstraction for what happens under the hood.
All that complexity has a cost in terms of debugging and time to market, power consumption, latency and chip area. The x86 is patched up beyond belief, all without retiring junk like BOUNDS or x87. That has a cost in code size. The x64 is better but they were still beholden to some legacy gunk.
ARM has been willing to retire misfeatures as the ISA is updated.
we are talking about SOFTWARE here bro
Linux is currently the most used OS kernel in the world, primarily on ARM devices.
Better luck next thread.
I don't understand anything
Can someone please explain to me how and why it is dying?
ARM is more power efficient, particularly at the lower end.
Well yes maybe, but Intel has a huge part of the market right?
Are there any ARM-compatible GPUs with ray tracing?
>He fell for the Ray tracing meme
lol, lmao even
Yes, I use RTX for 3D rendering. GPUs are not used only for gaming.
https://code.blender.org/2019/07/accelerating-cycles-using-nvidia-rtx/
So does ARM also have SIMD, and mmx registers, and all the other Intel goodies?
it has neon which is okay