How reliable are they for long-term data storage?

How reliable are they for long-term data storage?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unreliable

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    10 years retention or something like that? I don't remember. Tapes are the ultimate long-term data storage medium.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only If stored an optimal conditions, Otherwise, you can forget it to hold longer than a year without corruption.
      Basically, you need a wine cellar to store those tapes. If you have a wine cellar, you just need to adjust the temperature and keep moisture at bay and that's it. You've got the optimal conditions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        > Basically, you need a wine cellar to store those tapes
        i have a box full of backups dating back over 15 years in a cupboard located in a house that regularly gets over 100f during summer. you Black folk of this website just need to stop writing such fricking trash.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's only if left unpowered
      just plug em in once every 5 years and you're good

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sandisk went down the shitter, just forget it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have for sure, I do have one I found on the ground (dirt near a playground) around 2011 and it still works as well as the day I found it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it's probably even using SLC memory, these can live considerably longer

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's the most reliable brand? Got a lexar and it failed (partitions can't be detected and can only reformat it) 2 months later.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a Kingston 8GB from I don't know when but def before 2018 and it still works no troubles.
        I ordered a new Kingston 64GB in late 2023 and when feeling the stick I can feel they are using a cheaper plastic. So they are going to shit as well.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I get the feeling they're going too cheap trying make a larger amount of storage work. Though maybe capacity doesn't matter and quality is just going down.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Some of the worst.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I got about 8 years out of one, but it was slow the last 2 years.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I have essential private keys and $48k worth of bitcoin in a sandisk 2.0 with no backups.
    lmfao
    >why?
    they're prone to data corruption (no shielding, most of them don't feature ECC), one bad block and it's bricked

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this'll kill it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Depends what kind of NAND they use. Industrial flash drives typically have 1 bit SLC. Those things are supposed to retain data for decades.

      IIRC jedec testing showed that consumer 3-bit TLC NAND will become corrupt after about 10 years but I'd personally never push my luck with anything more than 5 years just to be safe.

      That's what faraday cages are for. Also if a flare strong enough to zap your flash drive comes by, society will probably collapse overnight and a dead flash drive will be all the way at the bottom of your problem list.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the thing is that it doesn't have to zap every flash drive in the entire world or even the entire thing
        just one byte on your personal device

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also if a flare strong enough to zap your flash drive comes by, society will probably collapse overnight
        I guess society has collapsed since cosmic rays corrupt memory all the time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        checkmate

        neither a faraday cage nor aluminum foil will protect your equipment if the frequency is high enough

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >neither a faraday cage nor aluminum foil will protect your equipment if the frequency is high enough
          you need to go back to school and at least try and pass year 7, you moronic monkey.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            i hope youre baiting

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If we're that close it won't matter.
      (picrel shows the planet pretty well protected by blue shields... so what is getting killed??)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >(picrel shows the planet pretty well protected by blue shields... so what is getting killed??)
        Earth's poles are flipping, the poles are moving at a faster and faster rate while the magnetic field is losing strength.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      checkmate

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        foil doesn't stop neutron radiation, which is what causes soft errors

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The little tab breaks in <3 years and then it's a huge pain in the ass to use

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro, google it, why can't you idiots look this shit up yourself? what's wrong with you morons? GOD DAMN

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's no reason to buy these when external drives are dirt cheap and better,

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      External HDDs are kind of fragile, even a fall from a desk can kill them. Also they're slow as balls for small files due to very dogshit random 4KB read/write perf.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've never used an external hdd. I picked up a few ssds when they were on sale and they work great so far.
        but honestly I'd rather take a decent external hdd over a usb too. I don't see the point of usbs anymore unless you have really small files you need to transfer, but email and cloud storage can get the job done for that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So are external ssd better?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The new meta is to get an NVMe enclosure and treat it as a big USB with an SSD controller

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ngl this is big fax i have like three, one 1tb one 2tb one 128gb
            sometimes i get paranoid about wearing down the NAND cells or too scared to quick format them
            on the other hand i would love to make a raidz2 array with these

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, SSDs need to be regularly turned on to check for flipped bits and correct errors (at least once a year), else there would be too much errors and it won't be recoverable. You wouldn't loose all your data, but the longer it stays unplugged, the more files you loose.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can buy like a pack of 4 for five bucks. You can't lose

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >HD that is now 15 years
    >another is at 12
    >an external HD that is 13 years old
    >a USB stick that is now about 16 years old
    All of them working fine though I dont put anything crucial in them just in case, but they are all constantly used. By now I want to see how long they last because all you planned obsolescence gays have been telling me for like 10 years that its gonna break any second now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i used to do data recovery as a job. i've recovered hundreds of usb sticks because morons will just pull them out of machines at random, corrupting the file tables and rendering them as empty. same goes for memory cards - many of them end up corrupted. electromechanical drives can cost between $500 and $2k depending on the damage and work. if you aren't using optical media or lto for backups then you might as well stop collecting data and take up another hobby like knitting or something that doesn't involve data integrity or computers.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have a 512mb usb since 2004 that still has files from my college days on it, works perfectly. I keep it in a drawer in my kitchen and I checked it just now for this thread.

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