How the frick do you guys cope on how centralized the internet has become. Everything is so shitty now there's nothing interesting to do on the internet anymore its all the same few sites. It used to be a bunch of original and interesting separate sites but now if you look something up its either reddit twitter or some shitty big cooperation forum. I'm getting such a crisis from this.
>It used to be a bunch of original and interesting separate sites
still is moron
>where
if any specific site becomes too popular it faces a Black person monsoor completely ruining its identity. The answer is walk out of the walled garden.
If only search engines weren't so fricking biased anymore we only have DDG and google, searx rarely does a good job for me.
Absolutely I want people to know how fricked the internet is but normalgays don't care, some are moronic enough to embrace it.
You know this pain
yes, sigh.. we need something new
dont use search engines
IQfy is a pretty good entry point for these kinds of things. I personally like reading blogs from technical minded folk, once you have a few they link to others that you also can read. Also if you see someone say something based see if they link a blog anywhere.
i have been here a lot lately
https://medium.com/
its... a start? Its really centralized (read censorship) and has been fricking around with paywalls last time I checked
use reader or archive links ;-]
band aid solution
I shouldnt have to do this in the first place, and someone too zoy to set up thier own site isnt worth listening to anyways imo
I really just want some based forum or something and learn nerdy shit from people that like it too instead of cooperations that want money and your data
just lurk here until the next based sites thread
until then you can use this
https://basedsites.neocities.org/
>Last update: Januray 28th, 2022
Unfortunate it seems to be dead, but still a cool site.
are you stupid? did you even read it?
I've seen more sites that claim not to be dead since 2003
https://sites.lainx.org/
>some are moronic enough to embrace it
infuriates me that zoomers here and morons on reddit are 100% behind it
yeah I know, >reddit
still aggravates me how much people just blindly support corporate consolidation
>reddit
This is a good thing because it'll help you get over your internet addiction.
Go outside.
>>It used to be a bunch of original and interesting separate sites
>still is moron
proof? globohomosexual minority garbage is not originality
not showing my kino sites for you to ruin
sorry
>the sharty is too niche kino a site for me to share with you plebbit normies
>sharty
>kino
please go back
>Sharty
>Kino
>Plebbit
Beyond saving
ok sure bro
>Everything is so shitty now there's nothing interesting to do on the internet anymore its all the same few sites
i too am struggling with this
For you, but what about the zoomers? Zoomers haven't seen our badgers. We have a mountain of memes that we piled upon for decades. It didn't vanish just because of social media.
The truth is the old web was full of creativity and craft. The new web is news. They looked at memes getting viral and they saw TV ratings. Nobody in the internet gets happier learning Israel is fricking shit up again FOR TWO FRICKING DECADES STRAIGHT. Nobody cares. Nobody gives a shit. Show me a cartoon of a dancing raccoon with a hat! But they know this moronic senseless violence gets clicks, upvotes and likes on social media. So this is all they post. Rage bait all the time 24 hours per day 7 days per week. And everyone just falls for it. Wake up, people. They just want to keep you addicted to anger so you can keep giving them ad money. You anger junkie became a toxic cynic. Your irony pushes away every creative being that could bring you joy. You can't just enjoy a nice drawing anymore. You have to compare it to israelites or some shit. You have to tell them anime artists are wage slaves living with their parents until they off themselves and they have no career now that we have AI. You were happier when you were ignorant. Stop being "informed" by the news in your feed be it on Twitter, Reddit or even in IQfy. Life is much more than that.
yes i feel bad for them
thanks for that. now tell those gays that and make them angry about that
this is why i try and not to be too hard on the IQfy younglings
i feel for them
I used to go on r9k but their content has been declining in quality too
I'm one of the zoomers. But I experienced the net as young as 2006 so maybe I was different. All the forums I used to go to, are all dead. IQfy boards that I have been going to since 2007 recently have become so much slower and not in a good way.
I miss browsing warhammer forums like when I was a lad, different days
>zoomers.
> 2006
So you were at most 6 years old?
thank you
>You can't just enjoy furry porn anymore. You have to compare it to trannies or somethin'
Yes.
zoomers are so fricked. i almost feel protective of them if they weren't so annoying.
i've seen the sites zoomers are trying to make
they're small and full of life and have their cliques and quirks, just like we did
for us the internet was new, it was like building a world fair in a virgin grassland field
for them, they build grody enclaves in the quiet alleys and in the corners of the remnants we left as kids
the old internet is alive and well, but like the bell in the polar express, we're too old to hear it
tiktok isn't the internet i grew up with, just like myspace wasn't the internet i grew up with: too many people there
you have to dig deeper to find the personal pages and linktrees and the private discords and the <1000 user social sites and all the other things
it's still there, it's just that the water level on the iceberg raises every year
list oldgay social apps
gaia online
neopets pre-nick/viacom
flickr
deviantart
omegle
habbo
puzzle pirates
ragnarok
basically any niche forum, including SA (used to be on a forum for a really old halflife 1 mod that i have friends i'm still in contact with to this day)
lots of old mmos were social apps, i met real friends that i met irl in them, there really wasn't much to do in them besides hang out, play the game how you wanted, and meet people, since data mining wasn't really a thing and no one was streaming/making money on video games, so there was no reason to sweat
i'm not 40, but i've been on this site basically since the beginning, including when i was underage b&
how are you still here, haven't the trannies and the porn been too much yet?
this isn't my only source of social contact
not browsing /b/ /misc/ and the porn boards was just something i never really did anyway
filtering also helps
the only place i can still just say whatever i want
plus, i have more of a positive outlook on things in general
yeah, this place is different, but it still has charm to it, and it's not really that different from what it used to be (assuming you filter low quality bait)
ffs i met several gfs on IQfy and /soc/, and they were decent people and not crazy
so i give back while i can, before the bots truly take over and we truly can't discern a real post from a fake post (it's already happening, but there's still ways of telling if you've been here long enough)
i give (you)'s to decent posts, i laugh at occasional funny, in-the-moment jokes, i get in screencaps, and then go about my day
i have more responsibilities as a grown ass man, but i still make time to shitpost
i like zoomers and feel for their struggles - i see a younger me in them up against some of the same issues i went up against, but in a different context or at a higher difficulty
met some really smart ones, they'll be the ones leading the AI and robotics front eventually
idk they'll be fine, and if you're one, you'll be fine - you learn as you go
i got a decent wfh job that i do my best at, got some pets, got some hobbies outside of here
best thing about my 30's is i've learned to not take life so fricking seriously
If IQfy is completely dead then where do I go. It would be cool to make my own site like IQfy but its been done too much and IF it takes off to be the replacement I would rather not be known as "the creator".
get off the main net moron.
idk
cohost seems neat, but i feel too old to use it - it's like a micro twitter/tumblr clone without tracking and ads
there's also plenty of altchans
again, private discords are decent too, but i have my own gripes with discord
you need to be okay with "the trannies" though - i don't trust doctors that sell life-altering surgery for zero physiological health benefit for what is otherwise a mental health problem as much as the next guy, but we had our fair share of deviants and weirdos back in the day (they're people too), and you have to be okay with people making their own life choices, especially if you want to engage with others in these spaces
have your own opinions and stick to your damn guns, but don't be a dick and especially don't cast pearls before swine (eg "don't debate or convince people that will obviously refuse to listen or engage you in bad faith")
some people i know are furgays and gays - as long as they're not trying to involve me in anything illegal and not forcing an agenda down my throat (most of the time, they can't, because i ultimately decide what i believe and can't force someone to agree with me), it's their life, not mine
besides, i enjoy the occasional discussion about things i don't agree with or things i'm not aware of
>i enjoy the occasional discussion about things i don't agree with or things i'm not aware of
This is only interesting if the other party doesn't act like a moron.
The other points are all find outside of twitter
Discord collects a lot of data.
I hope the best for Gemini I just want a web all over again, like what the http web was to normal people back then but now with Gemini. Now we will all be called autistic schizoid or BPD or something because back in the day these labels wherent really a thing
Of course they were what are you talking about? I was called a nerd, dweeb, loser, schizo, shut-in etc.... The labels change but the thoughts do not.
you have a point fine you win
been dealing with it for 17 years, i am surprised at how quickly the main net was taken over by zoomers and boomers. The pajeets must be having a field day with dotty and harolds bank info....
what this guy said
also, we tried decentralized social networks before, they don't work because they add too much friction to the network effect - people need to build their proverbial baseball fields and bring people in around a common topic or goal, which ultimately necessitates some level of centralization
even independent mumble servers are better, but the infra needs to be easy to maintain and trusted, smart people need to keep it running
everyone loves talking about decentralized everything, but no one talks about centralized tier 1 networks are now
having a social network for the sake of "being connected" is what got us into this crap timeline to begin with
This is a good point. The human mind is designed to be connected with, that is also the danger of echo chambers like facebook turning itself into a walled garden for boomer politicos. Algorithms really separated society and boxed us into consumer garbage instead of uniting us. However people have to want to be united or understand each other first.
bro this right here I got here in 07...... things have changed and not in a positive light. The net and irl have bled together so much it is depressing. Looking at alt web protocols right now to get that old buzz. Its really helped my mental, I deleted my socials in 2014 and now im looking to leave the main web.
I haven't deleted mine but they are unused since like 2013-2018, I still can't escape troonycord and WhatsApp due to normalgays and boomers.
That makes sense, im looking to get off this shit for good really the main net is now true cancer and has defeated the OG web culture/ philosophy. Looking forward to the day Gemini can support fully fleshed out forums. It will truly be a renaissance.
Man I'd love a anonymous posting site on there
well if we continue to develop it very well could happen.
Just browse the deep web
meh.. i get tired of that too
It's not bad... just a little slow/empty/weird...
ip2 is interesting sometimes
The internet is dead, long live the internet
we need an updated version of that pic
>youtube
>instagram
>tiktok
>reddit
>twitter/mastodon/bluesky
>facebook
>+chink versions of all those sites
Go try Gemini protocol internet. Was my solace for last few month. Browser i would suggest - Lagrange.
Gemini network doesnt solve the issue but.. rather gives a taste of what pre WWW internet was like
That's interesting almost like a second web since http has been fricked over already
It has a few text based forms and free hosting so you might even put together a site (they call them capsules) yourself. Tho self host is preferred.
But even on https, there is a ton of stuff to find as long as you look for it.
Winamp museum is a place i always have open when i need an inspiration (not internet related directly but still nice one)
I will look into it when I can. I've been thinking of getting a CRT monitor to cope to this. Sometimes you can see free offers.
how do I properly browse this? Or do I need to find interesting sites through http anyway.
kinda weird we're stuck with html tbqhf
Start by getting a Gemini browser.
Their website shows many options.
Since protocol is mostly text based, there is no issues with that.
I use that: https://gmi.skyjake.fi/lagrange/
When you download, just open it and then you are in as any normal browser.
The network has its own search engines
I use gemini://geminispace.info/search
I think you are good to go from this. Ask if you have more questions, given i dont know everything.
Just tried. Found the blog of a French programmer and scifi author. He says AI is a fake and gay bubble ("bulle"), pretty based.
Also here’s a list of sites that link to other sites: gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/users/adiabatic/start/
The best way is to trawl gemini://geminispace.info/newest-hosts and see all the new capsules
gemini://warmedal.se/~antenna/ is OK but most of the people who currently post there are boring and/or woke
It’s easy for me to not be woke, but being not boring is harder
I just hope there is just some paradise on the internet somewhere waiting for users.
I bought a couple of books
gonna buy a bike too, hopefully we'll be getting some nice weather soon.
>gonna buy a bike too
which one are you looking at?
bikes rule, i am going to start riding again
I really have no idea about brands or the little details. I used to live in a big city with lots of bike lanes, so the city bike I had was perfect. but I'll prob get a mountain bike this time cuz there are lots of unpaved trails where I live now.
me who lives in the Netherlands
that was 2013, needs to be updated
and what are expecting
microsoft google meta Amazon 50%
chinese companies 50%
Sounds about right, now it's not only america but also fricking china starts getting
involved with their shitty brainwashing online stores. No one seems to remember
that privacy is a right anymore and everyone let's themselves get used.
Having like a anonymous posting page on Gemini would be cool, I hope it gets bigger
Kiwifarms had one but it stopped being accessible when the main site started going down
It was fun
Seems like we were 95% of the people actually having fun in Geminispace
See if you can get Crunk to post the source again. It’s written in Rust and uses the AGPLv3+Black person license
t. not a farmer
i want all the power of consumer internet to collapse into one company so it makes a big crash noise when it falls in on itself
i hope one day all this madness comes to an end and they realise internet
is nothing for them. Nothing is made to last forever not even for them.
But what are the chances... how do you take down such companies.
you just let them do what they're doing and not worry much about it
enjoy what you can and it'll take care of itself
maybe not in our lifetime but whatever
all this shit is built on the coked out shortsightedness of industry and none of it will outlive the technology itself
funny that all their success is based on the infrastructure and free labor of open source contributors
it's not easy to find a web server that isn't running some flavor of linux
their long term business strategy is to hurl themselves into a black hole so let em
It would be funny if all those licenses suddenly changed to some license that requires the users to have the same license or something idk its not likely. But if open source dies then commercial use dies. I can try to avoid it as much as possible but limited usage I do have with these shitapps to communicate with boomers.
Something that would be cool and I can actually see happening is a law that makes you choose your operating system more when buying a new device which would absolutely destroy windows.
Online privacy awareness is rising, Linux usercount is rising, Windows marketshare
is declining. This little hope is what we have. I wish is came in bigger scale and went
way faster then it does now. This is just depressing IQfy itself is also collapsing
by becoming bigger and more coorperate, which is the worst fricking scenario where
tf do i go after IQfy. I hope some random anon comes to fix and save it.
its trivial to host an imageboard almost anonymously, the main issue is funding and moderation
funding can be done through a pass system (maybe give pass users API access or something)
for moderation you will have to either do it yourself or sort through the human filth of jannies to find a decent one
its a headache but it can be done by a single person if the operation is small enough.
I just feel really depressed everyrime thinking about this. It will never be the same.
I feel the same way about a lot of things lately. it's like everything I cared about is dead or dying. I know about ephemerality and all that, but one inadvertently feels the need for constant things to depend on. is this how people become jaded old husks?
You're on IQfy
I expect you to know how to make a website.
Where is your interesting website anon?
Why are you such a lazy frick expecting other people to waste their time and money fixing the internet for you?
If you like the old web so much why don't you make a fricking site?
JUST DO IT homosexual.
https://neocities.org
Here's some free hosting for you, b***h. Now show me some under construction GIFs.
That's the spirit.
If anyone can help us out of this miserable it's (You). Maybe a few more (You), but you're already nostalgia-gagging so remember how (You) gave no shits about societal norms, the memes you helped shape, the culture you brought. We need to literally do it ourselves. I said it once already, share your projects here and pay no mind to the shittalking. If it's any good, people will use it. This is our only way out. Big money will always sell you out. Do as anon said and pump out those based Websites you so desperately crave.
I would start, but my wiener is very tiny and I don't like being criticized tee-hee
do it anonymously, someone calling you a Black person is still feedback you should consider and possibly learn from.
this too. People like OP are part of the problem: the internet is is now mostly passive consumers and not active creators. Thus the people who do create (tiktok prostitutes and JRE clones) shape the image people have of what's out there.
Neocities is fake old web infested with nü-gays trying to spread their degenerate LGHDTV+ agenda.
>How the frick do you guys cope on how centralized the internet has become.
I go outside
What the frick is there to do there now. its only worth it during the summer even then it's more depressing then going outside in 2012 where no one was addicted to phones but where just getting started to that.
Sometimes go for a walk or a run, sometimes I read a book,...
reading books never fails. but that doesnt cover the pain
I should try engaging more with this. Maybe like posting on Bitview or making my own site and hosting it.
You stop being a brain gobbled idiot and go to the sites you want. Look for new sites to visit. Nobody is forcing you to swirl around the same 5 fricking websites everyday.
wiby.me
it's still out there
Yeah, let's make the 6 gorrilionth /b/ clone and actually make it good!!!11!1
fixeded
Wake up Anons. the GPT has you in 2030.
thats gonna be fun to raid by training it with misinformation
If the US could just make some normal fricking data protection rules then none of this shit needs to happen. Without data collection these companies are dead but the US doesn't wanna do this shit because it kills their only income to cope for that debt they built up.
This is certainly a thing happening, but not as bad as the people who complain about it make out. There are lots of small sites and forums still out there for various topics and projects.
People like OP just have no idea what they want to do and they take out not being able to randomly come across something that will interest them on big corporations working against them.
I has been this way for a very long time now.
The best thing I have found is to simply look for new undeground things and web-surf in the way we used too back in the day.
Cool people who make independent stuff also tend to share other cool things they have found, just don't expect it to be a constant feed like you are used to.
If you find a cool site add it to your bookmarks and see if is has an RSS feed to put into your reader. Eventually you will have a lot of cool places to check in on.
Also make something of your own, even if it is just a small blog or personal site, be the change you want to see.
Through the Internet you can gain access to more books than you'll ever read in a life time; audio books to learn from the time you wake to the time you sleep; free lectures made available from the best universities in the world; scientific journals that allow you to be on the absolute limit of human knowledge. You have access to a personal computer that's more powerful than the computer used to put man on the moon. In fact -- your mobile phone is more powerful than that dinosaur.
The problem isn't that centralized sites are the only landmass for online exploration. The problem is that OP is a massive homosexual who has no interests and hence no map can be made that suites his lack of exploration. A 'walled garden' like Facebook is therefore perfect for the OP, since it will spoon feed him topics to explorer. Whereas if he had any interests he would be forced to search for relevant resources, ask his own questions, do original resource, and use the Internet for more than furry.
That is nothing.
I'm getting dehumanized by Cloudflare. It keeps telling me I'm not a human. There are no fixes, no browser extensions or addons. It is a neverending loop of hell.
It took me 17 minutes to make this post.
you vill enable ze canvas
you vill disable ze jshelter
you vill turn off ze tor
you vill turn off ze vpn
you vill use a corpo browser
and you vill like it
The fix is to run Google Chrome on Microsoft windows or Android with no extensions, no VPN etc
People like you contribute to ruining the web homosexual.
I hate windows and android, I'm just explaining that israeliteflare allows you in if you are a normie
Forcing people into normalgays is even worse then just being one. israeliteflare is the endboss of the internet its what kills everything, the need for it too..
When will we have good linux phones. I'm currently on degoogled android but its still android
used a pinephone as a daily driver for 2 years.. mobian is good, i am currently running an iphone SE though =/
i love imessage, what can i say?
Well good news, there's a winning lawsuit that forces imessage not to suck on android.
have you ever used imessage?
Why would I need iMessage, another normie messaging app
spoken like a true normie
>advocates for iphone app
advocating for excellence
that is all, you can base your personality and your existence on botnet crapola all ya want, but do not knock me for being fluent in different hardware and software.
be like water anon, be fluent.. strop limiting yourself, there is a whole world of software out there that is glorious to use.
perhaps, but then i gotta have other people that use it too. No soul around me uses SMS but the worst of all.
Whatsapp
i am a Signal fan and big fan of Moxie
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i use signal with the only based friend i have irl
The problem is normies. Eternal summer.
I've been dealing with a lot of grief that boils down to "things aren't the same as they have been in the past". I think it's a natural part of getting older. I cope with it by realizing none of it is mine. The internet is not mine. The people on it are not mine. My computer is not truly mine nor the software that it runs. The air I breathe is not mine. I'm a traveler passing through a narrow passage of time and before long I will be gone as well. Things aren't ever going to back to the way they were and they're not going to get any better. Just be thankful you were here for the good times but stay grounded in today and remember that tomorrow isn't even promised to you.
the best content on the current web that can be easily found is archive.org. its got all sorts of anime, movies, magazine scans, etc. I was reading Electronic Gaming Monthly and watching Macross Plus a while back on there. There's a noticeable decrease in the quality of media since web 2.0 and revenue sharing because everyone figured out the meta is vanilla content + bot engagement.
You make vanilla shit content, and then you bot a million views and then you get some number of organic views and also google pays out for the bot views because whatever they probably sell the bots or something right. In any case, because the engagement is mostly fake and otherwise designed for lowest common denominator data science backed content for actual morons -- all the good stuff is now on archive.org. If archive goes down you might as well burn the Internet and start over.
With you guys 🙂
As a zoomer I remember using Yahoo messenger
> for me it was aim
and icq (i still member my 8 digit number)
i remember using Google
takes me back
Im glad it doesn't take me back at all
Why is it that the media always covers deep web as trolls and "worst people imaginable" and we never hear about the activists that are in favor of data protection, privacy and against monopolization. Yet they do keep complaining about how they steal your data and do NOTHING about it.
RETURN TO TELNET
https://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
Imagine old /b/ back on gemini
are any of you here?
i love it..
https://nostr.com/
>Twitter but decentralized
Its still filled with Twitter-isk posters
Going to be hard pass for me anon
oh its nice.. its like a mellow laid back cool kinda twitter for sec people.
you should check it out
it's just twitter. 10 billion posts of random fricking shit I don't want to see.
Each TikTok video is like a mini website, anon. You should embrace it.
tiktok is just a modern ytmnd with perverse financial incentives
Try (albeit poorly) to use the internet less.
The new hotness is reality.
I use to escape to the internet in my youth to get away from reality, now that morons have plagued the internet with reality, its easier to not deal with them by disengaging and living more and more in the meat space ironically enough.
also this
all my points about the internet ultimately don't matter the more you touch grass
I'm surprised Yahoo survived it all so far.
would you rather
Live on the deep web
or
TCD(total coorperations death) WE SHALL OBLITERATE THEM ALL NO DATA STEALER SHALL LAST ITS ALL GOING TO END
I just suffer.
Supposedly I should join some Discords, but I can't be arsed.
> old internet
I was the dumbest moron in the room. Everyone was intelligent in some way. There would be at least a few high IQ auttistic savant level geniuses who taught anyone who would listen about their special interests.
> current internet
At best everyone is as stupid as me. Too many seem to be functionally moronic. Pants on head stupid.
These days I use the internet to people watch in a manner of pseaking. Weirdos everywhere. It's paradoxical because the old internet was for the oddballs and the outcasts of society. Some how those people were more normal than whatever the hell is going now.
Oh god yeah. It's been a while since I've been schooled.
>It's paradoxical because the old internet was for the oddballs and the outcasts of society.
Nah not really, it's just that being a oddball and an outcast is cool now so people seek being oddballs and outcasts in very artificial ways usually concerning idpol. I'd argue the oddballs and outcasts of the old internet were nothing of the sort, they just had very particular interests to whom they couldn't speak to many about but were otherwise perfectly adjusted people, modern "outcasts" are just the most vapid of normies desperate to be special in the way they think smart people are in a kind of "only the people crazy enough to think they can change the world, do" way.