how is tsmc and asml not bigger than all of these american companies? if I bomb those two places allahu akbar style the mutt economy will crumble easily
Whats rich? Why do you think you will be able to make more than average in another country when you obviously can't in yours?
What you run after is a bigger number but you will just end up as a foreign laborer making average money at best, which will look big in comparison to your previously shithole, but what you get for it may be even less as before
It doesnt seem you know, the average is easily skewed by high outliers, it being at 24% means there a not much ( in that case because most of europeans dont fall into their respective highest brackets)
2 months ago
Anonymous
it means that the slavic shitholes where they earn the least pay the less. and there are other taxes other than personal income, europeans pay at least half of their money on taxes
2 months ago
Anonymous
So do Americans not living in shitty red states. Our taxes are closer to 35% if you actually have a "livable" income and it doesn't include every other non-tax tax like health or car insurance. You can't walk or bike in the USA. You need a car that is upwards of $10k even, when it's at 200k miles and on its last leg, excluding repairs/maintenance. Gas will run you $200 a month. I have The lowest cost auto insurance with veterans benefits in my entire state, and it's $1,700 every 6 months. I take home $24,000, $33k before tax. Rent in my area is $4k for a studio. A house is $700k. It is NOT a good area, a city no one has ever heard of. Life is hard here and Eurogays are delusional. Enjoy your free or low cost education and organic vegetables. Everyone here is moronic and our food is poison. I got set back $250 for 4lbs of meat and produce like mushrooms and lettuce, pesticide off brand everything.
2 months ago
Anonymous
you earn less than me by a long shot and i live in taiwan
2 months ago
Anonymous
My father is a safety engineer and his pay went from $120k in the early 2000s to $70k takehome now. $50k college education and he was working 14hr shifts. I make 1/3rd of what he does at half the hours and my healthcare is better than his. I still took home more than him after he paid for a surgery that would be close to free for me otherwise.
Not everyone lives in California.
I've been looking at housing in a lot of states NC, WA, ND, PA, TX, Rural NY etc and it's $500k for a home and minimum wage is half of what it is in CA. The salaries are usually 1/3 for higher education, and everything is spaced out, farther away, more gas burned. What you save in fuel costs, you pay in more milage and time on the road. Many states don't have very many higher education opportunities, it's reflected in the drug use. They have crappier and more expensive healthcare. I cannot get my care in many states. The quality of life is particularly bad unless you're in perfect health and WANT to be a farmer.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>the places that are worse than California are worse than California
Okay? Move to a better one.
>Don't wanna move to America
You really don't taxes are too low in most places and you have to provide for yourself itself of the government. You would hate it here
You dont pay 45%, thats maybe the highest tax bracket in your country, which you may fall into but that doesnt mean you pay 45% on all of your income moron, its in the 30s probably
2 months ago
Anonymous
In the UK the highest effective marginal tax rate is 57.5% as the highest income tax band is 45% but there is also 12.5% national insurance. I currently pay over 30% but I'll probably pay closer to 40 this year as I have shares vesting.
2 months ago
Anonymous
do you fricking think that reclassifying stealing 1/3 of my salary as "social security insurance" means it's not a tax? the gross to net difference is 45%
>netherlands >highest tax bracket taxes you at 49.5% >education is not free >healthcare is only free after you pay a certain amount of money per year on healthcare costs
Americans are still better off.
Feels weird thinking that facebook and mark zuckerberg really became one of the biggest companies on the planet. Like it was just a youth fad back in the day.
>america is designed to keep people sick
And given that American healthcare is expensive af, you can say America is designed to keep people sick AND poor.
> I want to get rich but I don't want to move to Muttland
I make the equivalent of €375k in muttland.
It's even more if you consider income tax difference.
Tell me how would I make anything close to that anywhere in the EU?
Europe is in its full commie era, and everything is failing. Why would you want to live here? In the next decade, the Euro will likely collapse. Our industry is gone thanks to green and marxists morons, and now they are also destroying our energy and farms. It will become a Vietnam/Indian tier zone in the next few decades.
You seem moron. I also make decent money that does not mean that it goes to shit. German economy is stagnant for 3 years now and this year shrinked by 0.5% and it will get only worse.. For frick sake. You germans truly are morons.
The rest of the eocnomy is irrelevant
You think everyone lives on the street because GDP stagnates for awhile
Nice larp, Black person
2 months ago
Anonymous
Stagnant for a while... sorry to tell you, homosexual, but without cheap energy, it will not be for a while; it will continue to go down to toiled. You homosexuals wanted electric cars but destroyed the infrastructure for them by stoping our nuclear power plants. (what a brilliant plan.) The EU green moronation also gives the USA and China massive advantages in almost everything industry-related, so everything is moving away Not to mention the massive beurocracy that would make USSR blush. Just because you are ignorant and read only your mainstream media does not mean that the rest of the world did not notice. Fricking moron.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I see, youre not german, which was obvious from the beginning
Kiss my ass, larping Black person
2 months ago
Anonymous
I thanks everyday that i was not born to be a Geman cuckold there no need to larp about being one.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Then why are you opening your fricking mouth pretending to be one?
Worthless piece of shit.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Where the frick i pretended to be one?
2 months ago
Anonymous
So, you dont even live in Germany, but want to tell me about it.
Even more laughable
Why dont you shut your frickign mouth you worthless Black person?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, I see I have a conversation with someone with a downsyndrome or someone with a very low IQ. Just because you are ignorant about other countries around you does not mean everyone else has the same. I live in Europe, and I do follow what other big countries are doing in order to know where to invest money. Just go suck some migrant dick. You Germans love it, and it is all you can do with your intellectual level. Do not forget to support the greens and socialists to destroy your automobile industry too; it will make wonders for the German and EU economies.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I vote AfD, you moronic Black person
Just off yourself already
Unfortunately, EU is just an american vassal. Just check what happened when germans tried to make pipeline with Russia. Defeat was 80 years ago, but that doesn't mean poor guys are not still under occupation.
They're gauls and celts who rejected Rome. What do you expect?
I fear that if Rome did not control Iberia, we still would not have discovered America and Indians would have kept being moronic and making sacrifices to the devil pretending to be a sun god.
Taiwan it is
we're full
how is tsmc and asml not bigger than all of these american companies? if I bomb those two places allahu akbar style the mutt economy will crumble easily
Whats rich? Why do you think you will be able to make more than average in another country when you obviously can't in yours?
What you run after is a bigger number but you will just end up as a foreign laborer making average money at best, which will look big in comparison to your previously shithole, but what you get for it may be even less as before
To answer your actial question: self employment
Its the only way to escape atleast some of europoor social taxes, no wagie will ever make it in europoor, by design
you have no fricking idea how bad taxes are in europe
Im eurpoor moron
Average tax rate is around 24% for americans and europeans
you know how averages work you fricking moron?
It doesnt seem you know, the average is easily skewed by high outliers, it being at 24% means there a not much ( in that case because most of europeans dont fall into their respective highest brackets)
it means that the slavic shitholes where they earn the least pay the less. and there are other taxes other than personal income, europeans pay at least half of their money on taxes
So do Americans not living in shitty red states. Our taxes are closer to 35% if you actually have a "livable" income and it doesn't include every other non-tax tax like health or car insurance. You can't walk or bike in the USA. You need a car that is upwards of $10k even, when it's at 200k miles and on its last leg, excluding repairs/maintenance. Gas will run you $200 a month. I have The lowest cost auto insurance with veterans benefits in my entire state, and it's $1,700 every 6 months. I take home $24,000, $33k before tax. Rent in my area is $4k for a studio. A house is $700k. It is NOT a good area, a city no one has ever heard of. Life is hard here and Eurogays are delusional. Enjoy your free or low cost education and organic vegetables. Everyone here is moronic and our food is poison. I got set back $250 for 4lbs of meat and produce like mushrooms and lettuce, pesticide off brand everything.
you earn less than me by a long shot and i live in taiwan
My father is a safety engineer and his pay went from $120k in the early 2000s to $70k takehome now. $50k college education and he was working 14hr shifts. I make 1/3rd of what he does at half the hours and my healthcare is better than his. I still took home more than him after he paid for a surgery that would be close to free for me otherwise.
I've been looking at housing in a lot of states NC, WA, ND, PA, TX, Rural NY etc and it's $500k for a home and minimum wage is half of what it is in CA. The salaries are usually 1/3 for higher education, and everything is spaced out, farther away, more gas burned. What you save in fuel costs, you pay in more milage and time on the road. Many states don't have very many higher education opportunities, it's reflected in the drug use. They have crappier and more expensive healthcare. I cannot get my care in many states. The quality of life is particularly bad unless you're in perfect health and WANT to be a farmer.
>the places that are worse than California are worse than California
Okay? Move to a better one.
Not everyone lives in California.
Moving to muttland to get rich is a time honoured European tradition.
>Don't wanna move to America
You really don't taxes are too low in most places and you have to provide for yourself itself of the government. You would hate it here
>In the United States, the average single worker faced a net average tax rate of 24.8% in 2022, compared with the OECD average of 24.6%
So Europeans pay the same taxes but get free education, developed infrastructure, pensions, paid vacations and free healthcare????
American bros...I don't feel so good
B-but the wealth will trickle down! Rich people are the holy job providers!
Europeans pay at least double that tax moron. I pay 45% and this is one of the more relatively less taxed countries in Western Europe
You dont pay 45%, thats maybe the highest tax bracket in your country, which you may fall into but that doesnt mean you pay 45% on all of your income moron, its in the 30s probably
In the UK the highest effective marginal tax rate is 57.5% as the highest income tax band is 45% but there is also 12.5% national insurance. I currently pay over 30% but I'll probably pay closer to 40 this year as I have shares vesting.
do you fricking think that reclassifying stealing 1/3 of my salary as "social security insurance" means it's not a tax? the gross to net difference is 45%
That is not the whole tax. We also pay DPH and social and health tax that is not included in it.
>netherlands
>highest tax bracket taxes you at 49.5%
>education is not free
>healthcare is only free after you pay a certain amount of money per year on healthcare costs
Americans are still better off.
>OECD is Europe
Point this moron and laugh at him. And only low tax eu countries are Eastern euro poorholes
Feels weird thinking that facebook and mark zuckerberg really became one of the biggest companies on the planet. Like it was just a youth fad back in the day.
Europe is a communist country. You can still get rich with crypto.
lol what
Doctors here in Germany make hundreds of thousands every year, some millions
Ok
If you were to become a doctor would you be a boob or an ass doctor?
america is designed to keep people sick
europe is designed to keep people poor
do with this information what you will
>america is designed to keep people sick
>europe is designed to keep people poor
what about asia and africa?
> what about asia and africa?
They’re designed to flood everywhere else to make them poorer and sicker
farm on blocklords op
none is closer from the truth than this
>america is designed to keep people sick
And given that American healthcare is expensive af, you can say America is designed to keep people sick AND poor.
Just invest in America. If they collapse Europe is fricked anyway so your stonks will be the least of your concern.
living in the USA kicks ass
> I want to get rich but I don't want to move to Muttland
I make the equivalent of €375k in muttland.
It's even more if you consider income tax difference.
Tell me how would I make anything close to that anywhere in the EU?
Europe is in its full commie era, and everything is failing. Why would you want to live here? In the next decade, the Euro will likely collapse. Our industry is gone thanks to green and marxists morons, and now they are also destroying our energy and farms. It will become a Vietnam/Indian tier zone in the next few decades.
I make plenty of money here in germany
are there only losers on this board?
And how much is that before tax and how much is that after tax? What is plenty of money? Unless you make €50k after tax per month, shut the frick up.
You seem moron. I also make decent money that does not mean that it goes to shit. German economy is stagnant for 3 years now and this year shrinked by 0.5% and it will get only worse.. For frick sake. You germans truly are morons.
The rest of the eocnomy is irrelevant
You think everyone lives on the street because GDP stagnates for awhile
Nice larp, Black person
Stagnant for a while... sorry to tell you, homosexual, but without cheap energy, it will not be for a while; it will continue to go down to toiled. You homosexuals wanted electric cars but destroyed the infrastructure for them by stoping our nuclear power plants. (what a brilliant plan.) The EU green moronation also gives the USA and China massive advantages in almost everything industry-related, so everything is moving away Not to mention the massive beurocracy that would make USSR blush. Just because you are ignorant and read only your mainstream media does not mean that the rest of the world did not notice. Fricking moron.
I see, youre not german, which was obvious from the beginning
Kiss my ass, larping Black person
I thanks everyday that i was not born to be a Geman cuckold there no need to larp about being one.
Then why are you opening your fricking mouth pretending to be one?
Worthless piece of shit.
Where the frick i pretended to be one?
So, you dont even live in Germany, but want to tell me about it.
Even more laughable
Why dont you shut your frickign mouth you worthless Black person?
Ah yes, I see I have a conversation with someone with a downsyndrome or someone with a very low IQ. Just because you are ignorant about other countries around you does not mean everyone else has the same. I live in Europe, and I do follow what other big countries are doing in order to know where to invest money. Just go suck some migrant dick. You Germans love it, and it is all you can do with your intellectual level. Do not forget to support the greens and socialists to destroy your automobile industry too; it will make wonders for the German and EU economies.
I vote AfD, you moronic Black person
Just off yourself already
What’s failing?
>Rich in Europe
If you weren't born rich in Europe, it ain't happening.
Oh look
Another loser shows up
Germany has millions of millionaires
And what's the point if everyone is a millionaire? By that logic you're all middle class and FRICKIN POOR.
No, Im not poor.
I have no idea, what you are huffing and puffing about.
>No, Im not poor.
Sounds like poor talk to me! Frickin destitute motherfricker lmao
Im most likely richer than your broke ass.
The whole board seems to be full of losers
Truly wealthy people don't go out of their way to flex on random internet morons. You really are poor.
Unfortunately, EU is just an american vassal. Just check what happened when germans tried to make pipeline with Russia. Defeat was 80 years ago, but that doesn't mean poor guys are not still under occupation.
You can short crypto, Americans can't.
Europe is a joke
Yes but American women crave my wiener and thats all the boosting my ego needs
They're gauls and celts who rejected Rome. What do you expect?
I fear that if Rome did not control Iberia, we still would not have discovered America and Indians would have kept being moronic and making sacrifices to the devil pretending to be a sun god.