How true is picrel quote? People were recovering from diseases long before doctors and scientists existed.

How true is picrel quote?
People were recovering from diseases long before doctors and scientists existed. Wild animals survive without the aid of doctors and scientists.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Disease was really bad in the past. A tiny infection could end up with getting your limbs cut off because the was no way to stop it if your body couldn't do it alone. Some of those diseases don't even exist anymore because they were wiped out
    >Across the later Middle Ages as a whole, your risk of dying from infant and childhood diseases was probably 15− 20 times higher than your risk of dying from plague, and your risk of dying from any of half a dozen endemic bacterial and viral infections was 4–8 times higher.
    https://www.medievalists.net/2021/12/health-problem-middle-ages

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      dying isn't hard when you spend most of your time playing with excrements.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A tiny infection could end up with getting your limbs cut off because the was no way to stop it if your body couldn't do it alone.
      Can even happen today, but maybe more rare. Life expectancy wasn't that bad in the past (infant mortality exempt but that's on nutrition and hygiene).

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats just propaganda the academic establishment, slapping itself on the back for curing a bunch of made up diseases that probably never existed to begin with. the same historians who claim that life expectancy used to be short also write history books filled with people living the same lifespans that people do today

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well then why are you here? Why weren't you born 10,000 years ago when the population was so much higher? There are fewer people surviving infections now than when they followed God's law, so statistically you should have been born then.

        Just a fluke i guess

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Why weren't you born 10,000 years ago when the population was so much higher?
          but i was

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you need me to survive
        >t. parasitic soiyence estabilshment
        thats a common form of narcissistic abuse

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          what do you expect to people who devote their lives to being professional know-it-alls?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Diseases mainly killed schizos. In fact the recovery from the dark age was likely enabled by the plague, which killed the schizos.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      there's people who unironically think those were better days than today.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Some of those diseases don't even exist anymore because they were wiped out
      That is not true. Those diseases are still there, unable to affect well fed population with access to clean water.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't he the guy who told Americans to cut their sons penises?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, and one of the reasons he pushed it was because he thought it would stop boys from jerking off.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, and one of the reasons he pushed it was because he thought it would stop boys from jerking off.

      We can never punish him enough in the historical memory. We must lower the public perception of him until he is regarded as among the ten most evil human beings who ever lived. Because he is.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We know way more about pathology than Kellogg did, but it's still sort of true.
      For what we typically think of as "disease" (i.e., virological, bacteriological, etc.) in most cases the human immune system does the curing, and the responsibility of doctors is more along the lines of "ensure this guy does not kick the bucket before he recovers". There are some exceptions though. Antibiotics, antiparasitics, and antivirals/antiretrovirals have allowed medicine to do a bit more to directly combat diseases. For immune disorders and cancer, we also have more tools in our toolbelt to combat disease.

      However, by sheer numbers the responsibility for reducing casualties from disease is really just a combination of public sanitation and better hospitalization standards keeping people from getting sick as often, and ensuring they're not actively being made worse when they do get sick.

      Also, frick Kellogg. I want my foreskin back

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know what he means by that exactly. Human body is too complex for anyone to be able to control it precisely, and virtually any medication or treatment has side effects. Immune system works most of the time, but inevitably there will be one bacteria that is able to overcome the defense, and since it can divide 144 times faster than human cells the body will be overrun. You could wait hundreds to couple hundred thousand years and hope someone will survive and develop immunity, but it is cheaper to face yeast with that one nasty bacteria and repeat until you get a strain that survives by producing some antibiotic. Still, after antibiotic treatment your body has to clean the bacterial residue, and has to withstand the side effects of the treatment. Bacteria and microbial fungi are able to live virtually anywhere, while if you culture human cells in a dish (with antibiotics) a single drop of non–sterile water is enough to get them overrun with bacteria.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given that medical error is the leading cause of death, you are better off avoiding doctors and other medical scyentists at all costs because they are more likely to harm you than help you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hospitals are where most people die. Thats why so many of them have a cemetery next door

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Death is a big industry

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's pretty grim if your family is like
        >he spent so much time at the hospital, he must have wanted to be buried there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you take that back

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >medical error is the leading cause of death
      It isn't though. It's not even close. It's not even -a- leading cause of death.

      Why would someone just make shit up on the internet? lmao

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A patient complaining of a sore throat goes to see a doctor, after examining him, the doctor says
    >Your tonsils have to come out.
    The patient says, "I want a second opinion."
    So the doctor says,
    >O.K.—you’re also of an inferior race.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It resonates with truth

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Given the dismal case history of the pharmaceutical & medical industries...

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Wild animals survive without the aid of doctors and scientists
    few do, if their wound isn't serious enough. Others die due to infections

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When a species breeds out of control, another one takes advantage and fills the role of exterminator.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > Aristotle 62 years old
    > Plato 80 years old
    > Tacitus 64 years old
    > Sophocles 90 years old
    Etc. The "people lived short lives back then" is a hoax

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They mean in terms of average lifespan, trivially. All of the diseases that remain poorly treatable today (dementia, parkinsons, osteoporosis, atherosclerosis, cancer, etc.) Had similar onsets and prognoses in the ancient world.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cancer is much more prevalent now than it used to be. all thanks to the wonders of science

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thank science for all this progress we're seeing!
          Thanks for the reduced life expectancy science!! way to go!! good job!!!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Doctors give patients cancer on purpose in order to generate business for themselves. Doctors are very greedy people, thats why the main message of "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" is that avoiding doctors should be one of your lifelong goals

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >avoiding doctors should be one of your lifelong goals
            most people die in hospitals. never go to a hospital and you reduce your probability of dying massively

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doctors give patients cancer on purpose in order to generate business for themselves. Doctors are very greedy people, thats why the main message of "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" is that avoiding doctors should be one of your lifelong goals

            True and real. Hospitals are filled with ignorance, hubris and negligence.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            and greed

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wild animals survive without cooking their food or wearing clothes so I suggest you go and try those things to test how well that argument holds up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wild animals survive without chopping their dicks off so I suggest you go and try those things to test how well your argument holds up

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People were recovering from diseases long before doctors and scientists existed.
    They were also dying of diseases long before doctors and scientists existed.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tend to not agree with the guy that proposed mutilation as a measure against masturbation

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So I can tell my grandmother to stop her chemo treatment? Because her body will cure cancer itself.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, because somebody on a Mongolian cartoon website posted an image of a misrepresentation of a quote from a guy who started a cereal company.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mean ... By the most pedantic, autistic standards, he's right. The doctor/scientist doesn't cure you. They recommend a treatment and your body responds to it by curing the disease.

    But an idiot would read the quote and think "haha, st00pid eggheads i dont need ur vax" and think that they have magical powers to cure any disease, inside of them.

    Education is important, folks.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    go get HIV and report back.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >go get this fictitious made up disease
      also get a pet unicorn

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