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Descartes thus declared his luciferian agenda and made himself God. Thus, the West began its decline.
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>I Am
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17~18 century philosophers still make middle ages theistkeks seethe
Agree. It would be silly to blame everything on Descartes, but he certainly crystalized the modern error with his attempt to derive reality from self.
You're onto the truth!
A pair of utter morons who still wished we lived in the middle ages.
Yes. Suckle the teet of scientists. Suckle the teet of unholy commerce. Life is all about longevity and buying shit! Everyone knows that!
Yes. Europe peaked in the 13th century
>Thus, the West began its decline.
thats not hegel
>hegel
Weird way to spell Nietzsche
>west
>decline
The west fell with the roman empire plagued by the semitic virus called christianity
Go to bed Himmler, you lost. It's over. All you are doing is whining and stinking the place up with your shit attitude.
>fell with the roman empire
The West fell when the Romans beat Carthage, actually.
>morons who haven't read the meditations don't realize the cogito was only used as a stepping stone in an attempt at proving the existence of god
Reminder that these are the subhumans you discuss philosophy with on this board.
You don't derive God from your mind. Also nobody reads Meditations. Not you either, Wiki Boy.
I have read the Meditations, which is how I know Descartes set up the cogito in an attempt to prove the existence of God.
Lol you are so full of shit
It's one of the books I read a decade ago for the entrance exam to a philosophy undergrad program. The others were Plato's Phaedo, Hume's Enquiry, Rousseau's Social Contract and probably some other book I don't recall because it's been so long.
Am I supposed to be impressed by you? Any half-conscious suburbanite can acquire graduate degrees with dad buxx. You can read the entire western canon for free lol
I don't care that you read three chapters for a summer philosophy course at Big State Midwit University. You didn't read it through. Nobody does.
Anon the entire point is that reading the Meditations is nothing out of the ordinary and that it's completely normal even for a philosophy undergrad. It's funny that you can't even fathom anyone reading it.
Oh, my bad then. Just kidding. Kiss my booty WikiLARP.
Why do you find it so strange that a philosophy undergrad would read the Meditations? I don't get it.
Because nobody reads anon. Reading of entire volumes died in the second half of the 20th century.
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No I am just not in denial like you. Literacy has plummeted. The trend has been known to various writers since the late 19th century. Gore Vidal was very alarmed by it and famously quipped
>Mista Emmerson-- He dead.
the point of this argument isn't literacy, whether societal or personal, but whether one should read the work he critiques. If one hasn't read the Meditatios, how can one possibly claim to rebuke our claim that Descartes used them as a mean to prove the existence of God?
You can't very effectively. There is no point to this thread, or to IQfy. This is a place where we come to kid ourselves.
Oh yeah the last one was Kant's Groundwork.
you're a fricking dumbass
Descartes posited that "originality" wasn't actually a thing in cognition, simply recognition of a pre-existing concept already MEDITATED (title drop) by a cognitive mind, regardless of sensual inputs (the first thing Descartes warns against compared to logical input in the first book)
Using this logic, Descartes attempted to link the very notion of God as an inextricable conclusion of His existence, since, if the concept of God exists, then logically this idea _must_ have a contemplateable origin.
Putting this into the perspective of the Cartesian Doubt, this meant that if a mind can even conjure up or argument the idea of God, this means that, paradoxically, He exists, and that only two beings can be logically thought to exist : "I" and "God".
This also sets up what I call Cartesian optimism: if at the very least two different beings exists, then it is wise to assume there are more; and since God is perfect in His Unity of Being, then that means that logically the potential others would assume the same characteristics as "I".
>Give her the dick
>luciferian agenda and made himself God. Thus, the West began its decline.
That would be the magic israelite who declared himself god but nice try, christkek
There is a bit of seperation of "The God" and "the gods" for a reason, yes, and if he said that with a pure heart, for justified reasons known fully, only, to him, would be true.
I and Muhammed have done it as well, people 'being possessed by the Spirit' do as well, for a time. Its just others can hold it. Its also related to "Triune God", as when you point at one the others rise to get your attention, It points at you and not the other way around.
you are a thai namegay who larps as a spiritual semite
instantly disregarded
Reminder: ignore all namegays.
Yes, atheistic priests exist for a reason.
>the West began its decline
>literally goes on to dominate the globe and reach levels of sophistication undreamed of by any prior civilization