>I can imagine it therefore its real.
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Yes
Yeah or an amalgamation of real identifiable things
Oh? And what's real for you? The indefinite and voiceless processes of the natural order? The stupid and blind motions of spatial phenomena and the brute tyranny of space and time? Yeah, I'll accept Donne's poetry and Richardson's Clarissa as real before I accept the moronic causality of natural law. You'd be wise to do the same, anon.
you are an unbelievable homosexual, you do not have any rational argument, go jerk yourself off somewhere else
Oh sorry… is the hylic mad?
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Yeah, I spent hours pouring over the ontological argument trying to make sense of it until I realized that IT is what is completely moronic, not me.
Which one
Anselm’s, what else?
Plantinga's obviously
never heard of her
Well study it for more than a few hours next time then
>i don't understand it therefore it's wrong
good ending
>without god everything is permissible
Parminedeans be like:
i don't doubt you're fricking limitless, and you also get the Boundless award if you really want it
TAG is superior to the ontological argument in everyway.
correct
The only thing you are aware of is sensation and thought.
There is nothing but an Imagination with objects imagined, among which are body (which is said to produce sensation) and mind (which is understood to produce thoughts).
Not only does being imagined mean being real, but moreso being real means being imagined.
The nihilists assert the imagination proclaims the void. The solipsists accuse imagination as one person. The pantheists claim imagination is the All. Other variations within this schema are known among the stones, animals, savages, brutes, sages, prophets, angels, demigods, gods, God, Godhead, Gods, Godheads et cetera.
thus therefore as challenged, thence and moreso
I'm imagining myself screwing your mom. Am I really screwing your mom and if so why is she such a prostitute?
what you refer to as my mother and what my mind refers to as my mother are distinct, but both exist.
if they were not distinct then my mother would also be your mother
whatever you imagine is real but of course not in the same sense as what I myself imagine a thing to be real, even in such cases as my imagination and yours share a label, in this case 'my mother.'
this fact is required for comprehending language
Things can be real and not have material existence. You know that right Anon?
And you can imagine things that aren't real. You understand this right?
No I can’t. You can’t imagine something which you’re incapable of describing in words. Meaning, any thought you have has symbolic reality. Unicorns aren’t real materially but they’re real symbolically.
So whenever someone says they can imagine something existing I can just say I imagine not existing and both stances are "symbolically" real.
what you are calling reality is your imagination. What I am calling reality is my imagination.
I comprehend you as an imaginary object in my imagination (which I call reality and you call my mind). I comprehend what you call reality as a thing in your mind but unknown to me, but which we both call reality.
without knowing this it is not possible to talk in words
I'm imagining you being wrong and stupid. Therefore you're wrong and stupid in reality. I've got to admit this a pretty liberating way of arguing. I just imagine that I'm right about everything and therefore I am right about everything.
i'm wrong and stupid
Or you could just admit that me imagining something doesn't make it real.
+3 and whatever you want to end my suffering?
Who imagines himself correct at all times is in that moment mistaken. Correctness of a proposition and reality of a proposition are seperate.
Your error stems from a confusion about the nature of reality. There is not one reality with many people. There is one person with many realities.
In other words one Spirit is looking through trillions of eyeballs upon one reality, our universe.
Many of those eyes through which the spirit gazes into this world are dogs, fish, worms, lions and men and women.
Among men and women each has its own two eyes and one brain, which are mere objects to the Spirit Compressed Through Two Human Eyes and One Human Brain-- called me, me myself, or a soul.
Liberation is the assertion of the Spirit upon a man or woman, an awareness of a Selfhood that is rooted outside of the universe.
faith is just blindness
The imaginary/metaphorical/figurative is real only within its particular configurations, and their influences, or relations, not as something corporeally concrete, nor spiritually absolute —it is introactively real, not actually real.
All spirituality is an illusion. The result of a human brain attempting to process information accurately and failing.