Imo it serves as a really great gateway to the understanding of culture in general via pathways like the stuff
Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen is required reading to understand this poem by the way. Also the Jessie L. Weston book From Ritual To Romance, The Golden Bough, and Sir W. Ridgeway's entire corpus.
talks about. His later stuff definitely transcends that pessimism in a certain sense though.
Have to also add it language-mogged me quite a few times and i was seething but i learned to accept that
I assume your upbringing wasn't comparable to his so you shouldn't expect to be equally as knowledgeable.
Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen is required reading to understand this poem by the way. Also the Jessie L. Weston book From Ritual To Romance, The Golden Bough, and Sir W. Ridgeway's entire corpus.
>Sir W. Ridgeway
Hadn't heard of him but he looks interesting, how specifically does it relate?
Instamogs everything Jessie L. Weston talks about preparing you for the second round of meaning in this never ending carrousel of a poem.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Alright, I may never get that deep but it's good to be aware of him, just skimming his stuff rn and it's pretty cool. The existence of surviving ritual satyr drama is wild just in itself, weird that it's not more widely known/talked about.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>he will never understand that Dionysus, Demeter, Osiris, Adonis, and Attis and such-like personages had never been human individuals, but always Vine, Corn, and other Vegetation abstractions.
1 month ago
Anonymous
no doofus he will ALWAYS understand that, what he will never understand is that these persons were REAL, ACTUAL LIVING BREATHING HUMAN BEINGS, important elders, shamans and warlords alike. God you Arthurians can never get anything straight I swear to god.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Riddle me this; How certain you are that Mr. Stearns was talking about the Percival story and not Gawain when he was alluding to the Fisher King? I bet you believe in climate change lmao.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Sweet Thames, run softly, till I end my song. >The river bears no empty bottles, sandwich papers,
have a nice day modernist moron
1 month ago
Anonymous
>modernist moron >cooming over poundlet cum residues ponderings on bri'ish waters
Don't forget to suck your local parish priest off
1 month ago
Anonymous
>no empty bottles, sandwich papers
nice reading Black person
1 month ago
Anonymous
1) Learn how to read.
2) Learn the meaning of the word "bear"
1 month ago
Anonymous
That's the part I was aware of,
no doofus he will ALWAYS understand that, what he will never understand is that these persons were REAL, ACTUAL LIVING BREATHING HUMAN BEINGS, important elders, shamans and warlords alike. God you Arthurians can never get anything straight I swear to god.
seems to be Ridgeway's angle. I can't imagine they're not both true to some significant extent though.
1 month ago
Anonymous
This is all very well, but Mr Ridgeway ignores the arguments on the other side.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>As an aryan anthropologist
insta-dropped, this is another archeology apologist
Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen is required reading to understand this poem by the way. Also the Jessie L. Weston book From Ritual To Romance, The Golden Bough, and Sir W. Ridgeway's entire corpus.
>Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen
Where and how? Isn't there a stellar production of one of Wagner's minor plays on YouTube? Please point me to some works I can buy to finally gain a full appreciation of Wagner
Just listen to the best recording. Watch scenes from Boulez's Jahrhundertring if you absolutely have to, since it has the most talent of any filmed Ring, but is an anti-traditional interpretation and still significantly behind the best recordings.
>Ritual To Romance
Imagine getting your understanding of Arthurian myth from 1900's.
>Sweet Thames, run softly, till I end my song. >The river bears no empty bottles, sandwich papers,
have a nice day modernist moron
OK Mr Le Phonecian Sailor.
>Wagner
have a nice day.
Riddle me this; How certain you are that Mr. Stearns was talking about the Percival story and not Gawain when he was alluding to the Fisher King? I bet you believe in climate change lmao.
t. has not read read the poem at all.
>boni and liveright edition
ISHYGDD my sides. Read a normal version like the criterion or the dial next time buddy... Maybe then you will actually get it.
KEK boni and liveright is the best edition you can find elliot himself said that it was "excellent".
Learn tarot if you want to understand this poem, do not listen to the one eyed merchant. The notes are just filler and should be disregarded as at best crutches.
That's great (and might I add exceedingly well-timed!), so what do you think of it then?
Its pretty doomerpilled but also Christ is Lord. I quite liked it and the references were exciting to excavate
Have to also add it language-mogged me quite a few times and i was seething but i learned to accept that
Imo it serves as a really great gateway to the understanding of culture in general via pathways like the stuff
talks about. His later stuff definitely transcends that pessimism in a certain sense though.
I assume your upbringing wasn't comparable to his so you shouldn't expect to be equally as knowledgeable.
>Sir W. Ridgeway
Hadn't heard of him but he looks interesting, how specifically does it relate?
>Sir W. Ridgeway
Instamogs everything Jessie L. Weston talks about preparing you for the second round of meaning in this never ending carrousel of a poem.
Alright, I may never get that deep but it's good to be aware of him, just skimming his stuff rn and it's pretty cool. The existence of surviving ritual satyr drama is wild just in itself, weird that it's not more widely known/talked about.
>he will never understand that Dionysus, Demeter, Osiris, Adonis, and Attis and such-like personages had never been human individuals, but always Vine, Corn, and other Vegetation abstractions.
no doofus he will ALWAYS understand that, what he will never understand is that these persons were REAL, ACTUAL LIVING BREATHING HUMAN BEINGS, important elders, shamans and warlords alike. God you Arthurians can never get anything straight I swear to god.
Riddle me this; How certain you are that Mr. Stearns was talking about the Percival story and not Gawain when he was alluding to the Fisher King? I bet you believe in climate change lmao.
>Sweet Thames, run softly, till I end my song.
>The river bears no empty bottles, sandwich papers,
have a nice day modernist moron
>modernist moron
>cooming over poundlet cum residues ponderings on bri'ish waters
Don't forget to suck your local parish priest off
>no empty bottles, sandwich papers
nice reading Black person
1) Learn how to read.
2) Learn the meaning of the word "bear"
That's the part I was aware of,
seems to be Ridgeway's angle. I can't imagine they're not both true to some significant extent though.
This is all very well, but Mr Ridgeway ignores the arguments on the other side.
>As an aryan anthropologist
insta-dropped, this is another archeology apologist
Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen is required reading to understand this poem by the way. Also the Jessie L. Weston book From Ritual To Romance, The Golden Bough, and Sir W. Ridgeway's entire corpus.
>Watching the entirety of Der Ring des Nibelungen
Where and how? Isn't there a stellar production of one of Wagner's minor plays on YouTube? Please point me to some works I can buy to finally gain a full appreciation of Wagner
Just listen to the best recording. Watch scenes from Boulez's Jahrhundertring if you absolutely have to, since it has the most talent of any filmed Ring, but is an anti-traditional interpretation and still significantly behind the best recordings.
>Ritual To Romance
Imagine getting your understanding of Arthurian myth from 1900's.
OK Mr Le Phonecian Sailor.
>Wagner
have a nice day.
t. has not read read the poem at all.
KEK boni and liveright is the best edition you can find elliot himself said that it was "excellent".
Learn tarot if you want to understand this poem, do not listen to the one eyed merchant. The notes are just filler and should be disregarded as at best crutches.
Don't forget Tristan und Isolde, which, I would argue, is more important to the poem than the Ring Cycle.
>My Wasted Land by T. S. Eliot Rodgers
>boni and liveright edition
ISHYGDD my sides. Read a normal version like the criterion or the dial next time buddy... Maybe then you will actually get it.
Why did the modernists think that it was the peak of poetry when they wrote a poem in sixteen different languages?
t. languagelet
It hardly even qualifies as a poem
whatever you say, anon
What Shall Our Reaction Be?
i dont get the love for poems like this. the language is so plain and unimpressive.
you will never make it