I mean, I like my corner office and won't give it up until I die, but cubicle ?!, hell naw.
I was promoted twice and was offered a bigger office on another floor but only one wall would be glass and also I would have to use an elevator to pork my assistant so I refused.
somewhere like that? yeah noise-cancelling headphones are probably a necessity there. however i've worked in open spaces with 15-20 people and as long as people are generally respectful about taking calls in conference rooms, they're not that bad. i like being able to wheel over to someone else's desk for a question. they vastly exceed the soul-crushing nature of a closed-off cubicle. however i'm also not an autist that has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I worked in a pretty big open space call center (sales). It was loud as frick, everyone trying to close sales or just chit-chatting with each other. My first seat was next to this roastie who cackled loudly, and sometimes 3 of her friends would gather at her desk and all cackle 3 feet away from me as I was trying to close some senior citizen to get my $30 commission.
But I actually got used to it after a couple of weeks, then started to like it. It's hard to be bored when there's a lot of noise and shit happening, also made for a casual party like environment. Ended up banging that annoying girl after a couple of months (shit was not cash)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's hard to be bored when there's a lot of noise and shit happening, also made for a casual party like environment.
that's what i'm saying
>i'm also not an autist that has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
>Im just going to openly discriminate against people with disabilities, violating the ADA and anti-discrimination laws
cool story c**t
you don't have a disability homosexual. stop crying. god you sound like a hamplanet wanting a disability check for your inability to control their eating.
>I spend 20% of my shift working and 80% talking about inane shit with other subpar coworkers
>>I spend 20% of my shift working and 80% talking about inane shit with other subpar coworkers
sometimes those are the better investments, talking to co-workers and building relationships, something you can't do remotely. building your network when you leave the place is never a bad thing. not like you'd know anything about that.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you don't have a disability homosexual. stop crying.
and you dont not suck dick
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
If you look at enough IQfy / reddit / orange reddit that seems to be half the reason most people hate any offices. They perceive water cooler bullshit as an attempt at genuine social interaction because they have no idea what that looks like.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>as long as people are generally respectful
This is a bigger "if" than you seem to realize.
Besides that, having some basic degree of seclusion is a massive boon to productivity for pretty much anyone who does real, actual work. There's an enormous volume of evidence that open offices reduce productivity. The only people who really benefit from them are micro-managers.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>i'm also not an autist that has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
>Im just going to openly discriminate against people with disabilities, violating the ADA and anti-discrimination laws
cool story c**t
An open office was somewhat tolerable until I changed teams and sat around 7 women. It’s hell on earth. They focus their energy not on getting tasks done, but ensure everyone else works just as slow as them and that everyone works as a team to make up for how slow they are. If you bust your ass to get your work done quickly and want to go home they will cause so much drama and escalate how you didn’t help them, even though they roll in at 9:45am and then get coffee, and even clip their toenails, anything but actual work. Meetings turn into therapy sessions too and they want to hijack the agenda to watch inclusion and diversity videos and slides. I’m really questioning how I’m going to make a living if I can’t find an office with mostly men.
what would happen if you attached big dividers to the ends of your desk to give yourself privacy? would the roasties start seething and HR tell you that youre being antisocial and tell you to take it down?
kek. Bring a little pavilion pop up tent to work every day and set it up over your desk. Harvest cardboard slabs from the loading dock and make your own hobo palace.
>open offices are hell on earth
No, hell would be an improvement. Just look at how much elbow room they have! Open office planners would consider the frozen lake to be an inefficient use of space.
Trying to work with all those distractions and all that noise with no privacy seems really really bad. I get the impression that these open officers are a poorly thought out kneejerk response to the completely false notion that cubicles were some oppressive prison made by evil employers.
We traded cells for the panopticon, but its worse than a panopticon because your privacy is erased both physically and socially. And worse further a prison is a prison, this is a "work", and we don't even know it.
This image made me realize why all my programmer friends work remote and refuse to go into the office.
I've always worked in a cubicle and now have had a massive personal office for the past 8 years. I can't imagine working in an environment like this. Frick that. I'd be remote too if this was the only alternative.
OP is one of 2 people: >older milliennial who peaked in high school/college, worked in an office with them for their first job and this thread is just another whiny "i miss when i was younger" proxy thread >stupid moron homosexual zoomie posting about shit they never experienced
regardless, it's a worthless thread that deserves to be saged
>if you honestly prefer the open workplace, you are a c**t, simple as
no i'm just not a socially stunted shut-in who got into software because i thought it was a solitary endeavor like you did, simple as.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I spend 20% of my shift working and 80% talking about inane shit with other subpar coworkers
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No shit, if you're someone else's employee then you should be maxxing out your free time. Why work harder unless you know you'll get promoted? Personally I coast until I see things get backed up, then go all in to save the day. Everyone thinks I'm a hard working champion but 80% of the time I'm barely aware of the workflow.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you show no loyalty the company, then damn right you'll never be promoted. lol
Nobody owes you a damn thing, but you owe everyone else everything.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Nobody owes you a damn thing, but you owe everyone else everything.
NTA, but you can frick right off
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The point is to appear dedicated and loyal while maximizing your down time.
People like you are the ones getting hit by the layoff waves alongside tiktok prostitutes.
Though you're not employed to begin with so you wouldn't know.
Why are you mad? I've been promoted, but I prefer to job hop every 2-3 years into a higher position. Work smart not hard, even boomers should know that one.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
People like you are the ones getting hit by the layoff waves alongside tiktok prostitutes.
Though you're not employed to begin with so you wouldn't know.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ive worked in both. In open workspaces while I am trying to work and concentrate, theres people near me having loud bullshit conversations about shit that isnt work related. it has nothing to do with me socializing with people. it has to do with me being unable to do my job because of distraction and an environment that is not conducive to concentration.
you are one of those loud c**ts that think not being able to work half my shift so people around me can socialize loudly is just how it goes. and if companies adhered to your moronic stance, theyd spend twice as much on wages, and have higher turnover rates. but thats fine with you as long as you and your bros get to continue working there and post "a day in the life of" vids as your company slowly sinks
OP is one of 2 people: >older milliennial who peaked in high school/college, worked in an office with them for their first job and this thread is just another whiny "i miss when i was younger" proxy thread >stupid moron homosexual zoomie posting about shit they never experienced
regardless, it's a worthless thread that deserves to be saged
seroiusly, what's wrong with cubicles? it's infinitly better than open space and you can still talk to people. i don't understand. i work in a cubicle in a big company regional site so small team but it's not high you can see over if you sit up a little bit or stand and it's fricking amazing. privacy and openness at once
The only thing cubes are better than is an open office. It's like a shitty middle point between an open office and having an actual, real office, something only management is considered privileged enough to have.
have you never worked in open spaces? when compared to cubicles they're hell, everyone is either chatting about dumb shit or on video calls and if you want to do something not work related the whole fricking office can see it.
cubicles suck if you compare them to private offices, but cubicles are a godsend compared to open cuckspaces
>everyone is either chatting about dumb shit or on video calls
again, that's the problem with the implementation. if you don't have rules and basic etiquette around it, then yeah they will suck, like anything in a fricking office.
> if you want to do something not work related the whole fricking office can see it.
why do you need to look at drawings of children at work?
>again, that's the problem with the implementation.
also everyone can state at me working. I suppose open spaces would be fine as long as there were dividers around my desk so no one could see me when sitting down
>that's the problem with the implementation.
it's an implementation problem that people are able to look at my screen by the mere virtue of literally having fricking nothing to cover it?
if you want a social environment, go to a bar and get some friends, your copes to defend open spaces are bad
>1 in 1000 case wonders why the meat wants a more productive and less stressful workcube to actually get work done, instead of a feminised over-socialised daycare
>Tron: 1982 >Adobe photoshop: 1990
Bet you're going to say something stupid to cover up how dumb you feel right now. I am prepared to be entertained by the paragraphs of mental gymnastics that your insecure little brain is about to shit out
Dance monkey, dance
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You chose to argue the part about Tron releasing before Photoshop and not the part about Photoshop predating computers?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Photoshop predating computers
reasonably ok troll. I give it a 5/10
Listen corpo guy. I'm sorry your investment into commercial real estate is shitting the bed hard right now. But just suck it up. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps like the poor do. Nobody is going back to those.
[...]
[...] >first day on the job >standing in hallway waiting for first assignment >overhear secretary getting fired >at lunch as coworker what happened >apparently she's been sleeping with every man in the office except the boss >boss found out when someone accidentally group-mailed her nudes to the entire staff
I miss my office days.
Based. I retract my comment implying you had shit taste in ladies.
Some ugly ass b***h that dresses like a cheap prostitute?
>first day on the job >standing in hallway waiting for first assignment >overhear secretary getting fired >at lunch as coworker what happened >apparently she's been sleeping with every man in the office except the boss >boss found out when someone accidentally group-mailed her nudes to the entire staff
One thing is working in an open office with 15 people max in a small company / startup. That can be nice and fun.
It's completely different working in an open office for some big tech corpo with 30+ people in the same area. In this case cubicles are million times better.
>cubicles are bad
Said the wagie >open offices are bad
Said the techbro that earns 6 figures and is still miserable >wfh is bad
Said the manager/owner/landowner >working is bad
Said the neet >being a neet is bad
Said everyone else
It's all bad, everywhere, just depends on who you ask.
before, you could passive agressively call susan a fat, putrid c**t but now... you have to put in the extra effort to thank and tip the uber dash mopeds
Just move closer to the poles. they never evolved to deal with cold weather and cant survive places where it snows. if you happen to actually encounter them somewhere that gets lots of snow, most likely theyre so exhausted battling "the cold" that they are relatively benign while at work
>t. no one
>corporate accounts payable, Nina speaking.. Just a moment
You miss cubicles ?
But why ?!
I mean, I like my corner office and won't give it up until I die, but cubicle ?!, hell naw.
I was promoted twice and was offered a bigger office on another floor but only one wall would be glass and also I would have to use an elevator to pork my assistant so I refused.
But cubicles are just mental illness
>my assistant
pics or it didnt happen
would
WOUUUUULLLLD
Open spaces replaced cubes, making everybody hate their fricking lives and desperately wish to have cubes back.
imagine the noise
somewhere like that? yeah noise-cancelling headphones are probably a necessity there. however i've worked in open spaces with 15-20 people and as long as people are generally respectful about taking calls in conference rooms, they're not that bad. i like being able to wheel over to someone else's desk for a question. they vastly exceed the soul-crushing nature of a closed-off cubicle. however i'm also not an autist that has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
I worked in a pretty big open space call center (sales). It was loud as frick, everyone trying to close sales or just chit-chatting with each other. My first seat was next to this roastie who cackled loudly, and sometimes 3 of her friends would gather at her desk and all cackle 3 feet away from me as I was trying to close some senior citizen to get my $30 commission.
But I actually got used to it after a couple of weeks, then started to like it. It's hard to be bored when there's a lot of noise and shit happening, also made for a casual party like environment. Ended up banging that annoying girl after a couple of months (shit was not cash)
>It's hard to be bored when there's a lot of noise and shit happening, also made for a casual party like environment.
that's what i'm saying
you don't have a disability homosexual. stop crying. god you sound like a hamplanet wanting a disability check for your inability to control their eating.
>>I spend 20% of my shift working and 80% talking about inane shit with other subpar coworkers
sometimes those are the better investments, talking to co-workers and building relationships, something you can't do remotely. building your network when you leave the place is never a bad thing. not like you'd know anything about that.
>you don't have a disability homosexual. stop crying.
and you dont not suck dick
>has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
If you look at enough IQfy / reddit / orange reddit that seems to be half the reason most people hate any offices. They perceive water cooler bullshit as an attempt at genuine social interaction because they have no idea what that looks like.
>as long as people are generally respectful
This is a bigger "if" than you seem to realize.
Besides that, having some basic degree of seclusion is a massive boon to productivity for pretty much anyone who does real, actual work. There's an enormous volume of evidence that open offices reduce productivity. The only people who really benefit from them are micro-managers.
>i'm also not an autist that has a panic attack over having a conversation with a co-worker (which is why so many people here hate open offices)
>Im just going to openly discriminate against people with disabilities, violating the ADA and anti-discrimination laws
cool story c**t
bitch
just go to a celebration
Where in this picture can I hang myself?
this is hell, holy shit lol
open offices are hell on earth
t.
>black lives matter
An open office was somewhat tolerable until I changed teams and sat around 7 women. It’s hell on earth. They focus their energy not on getting tasks done, but ensure everyone else works just as slow as them and that everyone works as a team to make up for how slow they are. If you bust your ass to get your work done quickly and want to go home they will cause so much drama and escalate how you didn’t help them, even though they roll in at 9:45am and then get coffee, and even clip their toenails, anything but actual work. Meetings turn into therapy sessions too and they want to hijack the agenda to watch inclusion and diversity videos and slides. I’m really questioning how I’m going to make a living if I can’t find an office with mostly men.
>if I can’t find an office with mostly men
find a small company or start your own
I hear military subcontractors are despised by women and troons. Maybe try that.
>women
Yeah obviously
>troons
every single troony east of the Mississippi works for Lockheed-Martin and Raytheon
Bzzt, wrong. My qt hapa cousin works for Northrop Grumman.
what would happen if you attached big dividers to the ends of your desk to give yourself privacy? would the roasties start seething and HR tell you that youre being antisocial and tell you to take it down?
kek. Bring a little pavilion pop up tent to work every day and set it up over your desk. Harvest cardboard slabs from the loading dock and make your own hobo palace.
Open spaces are so bad, I wish for a comeback of the cubicles every day...
Hieronymous Bosch the office planner
>open offices are hell on earth
No, hell would be an improvement. Just look at how much elbow room they have! Open office planners would consider the frozen lake to be an inefficient use of space.
Holy kek
Trying to work with all those distractions and all that noise with no privacy seems really really bad. I get the impression that these open officers are a poorly thought out kneejerk response to the completely false notion that cubicles were some oppressive prison made by evil employers.
The idea behind open spaces is people policing each other. It works surpassingly well.
yeah, no one playing minesweeper anymore, but also, no one is doing anything productive either.
>people policing each other
On what planet is that necessary? It's easy enough to see how much work someone does by their output.
This reminds me of how I would get social anxiety whenever I walked into the school's computer lab.
as a femcel i hate these places.
YWNBAW
When I see you I think about fricking you, no matter how ugly you are
Your gender is irrelevant
comfy
hellhole
We traded cells for the panopticon, but its worse than a panopticon because your privacy is erased both physically and socially. And worse further a prison is a prison, this is a "work", and we don't even know it.
This image made me realize why all my programmer friends work remote and refuse to go into the office.
I've always worked in a cubicle and now have had a massive personal office for the past 8 years. I can't imagine working in an environment like this. Frick that. I'd be remote too if this was the only alternative.
Man my dream is to have an office at work. Literally what I'm working for. An office with a door that locks...
hell on earth
OP is one of 2 people:
>older milliennial who peaked in high school/college, worked in an office with them for their first job and this thread is just another whiny "i miss when i was younger" proxy thread
>stupid moron homosexual zoomie posting about shit they never experienced
regardless, it's a worthless thread that deserves to be saged
have you worked in both a cubicle and an open workplace?
if you honestly prefer the open workplace, you are a c**t, simple as
>if you honestly prefer the open workplace, you are a c**t, simple as
no i'm just not a socially stunted shut-in who got into software because i thought it was a solitary endeavor like you did, simple as.
>I spend 20% of my shift working and 80% talking about inane shit with other subpar coworkers
No shit, if you're someone else's employee then you should be maxxing out your free time. Why work harder unless you know you'll get promoted? Personally I coast until I see things get backed up, then go all in to save the day. Everyone thinks I'm a hard working champion but 80% of the time I'm barely aware of the workflow.
If you show no loyalty the company, then damn right you'll never be promoted. lol
Nobody owes you a damn thing, but you owe everyone else everything.
>Nobody owes you a damn thing, but you owe everyone else everything.
NTA, but you can frick right off
The point is to appear dedicated and loyal while maximizing your down time.
Why are you mad? I've been promoted, but I prefer to job hop every 2-3 years into a higher position. Work smart not hard, even boomers should know that one.
People like you are the ones getting hit by the layoff waves alongside tiktok prostitutes.
Though you're not employed to begin with so you wouldn't know.
Ive worked in both. In open workspaces while I am trying to work and concentrate, theres people near me having loud bullshit conversations about shit that isnt work related. it has nothing to do with me socializing with people. it has to do with me being unable to do my job because of distraction and an environment that is not conducive to concentration.
you are one of those loud c**ts that think not being able to work half my shift so people around me can socialize loudly is just how it goes. and if companies adhered to your moronic stance, theyd spend twice as much on wages, and have higher turnover rates. but thats fine with you as long as you and your bros get to continue working there and post "a day in the life of" vids as your company slowly sinks
Sounds reasonable
seroiusly, what's wrong with cubicles? it's infinitly better than open space and you can still talk to people. i don't understand. i work in a cubicle in a big company regional site so small team but it's not high you can see over if you sit up a little bit or stand and it's fricking amazing. privacy and openness at once
>what's wrong with cubicles?
nobody who has ever worked remote has asked this question
think that over
>what's wrong with cubicles?
Everything that's wrong with open workspaces, just to a lesser degree.
The only thing cubes are better than is an open office. It's like a shitty middle point between an open office and having an actual, real office, something only management is considered privileged enough to have.
cubes are better than having no desk at all
have you never worked in open spaces? when compared to cubicles they're hell, everyone is either chatting about dumb shit or on video calls and if you want to do something not work related the whole fricking office can see it.
cubicles suck if you compare them to private offices, but cubicles are a godsend compared to open cuckspaces
>everyone is either chatting about dumb shit or on video calls
again, that's the problem with the implementation. if you don't have rules and basic etiquette around it, then yeah they will suck, like anything in a fricking office.
> if you want to do something not work related the whole fricking office can see it.
why do you need to look at drawings of children at work?
>again, that's the problem with the implementation.
also everyone can state at me working. I suppose open spaces would be fine as long as there were dividers around my desk so no one could see me when sitting down
>that's the problem with the implementation.
it's an implementation problem that people are able to look at my screen by the mere virtue of literally having fricking nothing to cover it?
if you want a social environment, go to a bar and get some friends, your copes to defend open spaces are bad
>1 in 1000 case wonders why the meat wants a more productive and less stressful workcube to actually get work done, instead of a feminised over-socialised daycare
Imagine how badly you'd have to frick up to get put in the cubicle with no way out.
lol i never noticed, the group behind that one looks completely blocked off too, was this intentional?
Fairly certain this is an AI generated image
It predates AI, but it's definitely shopped.
The prospect of being given my own space to work in sounds fricking great honestly. Those open offices look like absolute hell.
This is a screenshot from the 1982 movie Tron lmao
Yes, but it's still shopped. Photoshop predates computers.
>Tron: 1982
>Adobe photoshop: 1990
Bet you're going to say something stupid to cover up how dumb you feel right now. I am prepared to be entertained by the paragraphs of mental gymnastics that your insecure little brain is about to shit out
Dance monkey, dance
You chose to argue the part about Tron releasing before Photoshop and not the part about Photoshop predating computers?
>Photoshop predating computers
reasonably ok troll. I give it a 5/10
Hey Peter, whaaats happening
>open offices
>open borders
>zero listening to normalgays about their moronic normalgay shit
word
>wageslaves arguing over which environment is better to be a slave in
CFLs aren't exactly healthy or anything but if I had to look into the sun all day I'd off myself.
Listen corpo guy. I'm sorry your investment into commercial real estate is shitting the bed hard right now. But just suck it up. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps like the poor do. Nobody is going back to those.
i miss having a job at all
even a wagie cubicle would do
suicidal thoughts keeps piling up every day
>suicidal thoughts keeps piling up every day
sounds like disability eligibility to me. start working on a paper trail
you know what i miss the most about working in an office?
office sloots?
Some ugly ass b***h that dresses like a cheap prostitute?
Based. I retract my comment implying you had shit taste in ladies.
>first day on the job
>standing in hallway waiting for first assignment
>overhear secretary getting fired
>at lunch as coworker what happened
>apparently she's been sleeping with every man in the office except the boss
>boss found out when someone accidentally group-mailed her nudes to the entire staff
I miss my office days.
One thing is working in an open office with 15 people max in a small company / startup. That can be nice and fun.
It's completely different working in an open office for some big tech corpo with 30+ people in the same area. In this case cubicles are million times better.
I don't, I love taking a shit whenever I want
Cubicles are 10000000000% better than hanging around 10,000 interracial masturbators. They're still dogshit, but I wish they brought them back.
>cubicles are bad
>open offices are bad
>wfh is bad
>working is bad
>being a neet is bad
>cubicles are bad
Said the wagie
>open offices are bad
Said the techbro that earns 6 figures and is still miserable
>wfh is bad
Said the manager/owner/landowner
>working is bad
Said the neet
>being a neet is bad
Said everyone else
It's all bad, everywhere, just depends on who you ask.
>let me correct that for you
perfect
nobody said being a NEET is bad
everyone envies the NEET
in fact I want to become rich just so I can live the NEET life forever
Real Estate leech or HR landwhale?
I go to the office once a week and I dread it. Literally imposible to focus.
I can do that at home too while naked and shitposting.
what are they looking at? did someone an hero?
one of the lady workers time stopped and then an octopus took the opportunity to impregnate her.
Cool. Where can I watch the full thing in slow motion?
Another psyop
Open Offices are the equivalent of "No Exit's" take on Hell.
It's all about extreme peer reflection at all times.
you miss the passive socializing it provided.
before, you could passive agressively call susan a fat, putrid c**t but now... you have to put in the extra effort to thank and tip the uber dash mopeds
i wonder if sometimes you were cursed with a terrible smelling cubicle from the last person who might have used it for years?
Cubicles were better than open plan. But working from home is god tier. I will quit before going back.
The pandemic was great and every day I pray for another.
You're fricking 18 yo.
>300 pajeets all sit at their cubicle eating microwaved diarrhea for lunch while talking on the phone for an entire hour
it's a living hell
Just move closer to the poles. they never evolved to deal with cold weather and cant survive places where it snows. if you happen to actually encounter them somewhere that gets lots of snow, most likely theyre so exhausted battling "the cold" that they are relatively benign while at work