Bro, if you use a smartphone you are already sticking a camera and microphone in front of your face for most of the day. We are already under heavy surveillance, just don't let the fear and paranoia prevent you from moving forward. Go on your way in spite of it all, they can't do shit to you unless you allow them, and you allow them by believing that they are more powerful than you.
The best you're gonna get is Aberration in the Heartland of the Real by Wendy S. Painting + Chaos by Tom O'Neill. Haven't read the latter yet but both (especially Chaos, apparently) go heavy into mind control, human trafficking, and Dr. Jolly West, among other things. Another good author to look up is William Ramsey but his podcast is worth a lot more than his books (two books on Aleister Crowley under his belt and that's it). Another good resource is the podcast "Le Monstre" about the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium. Also keep your eyes peeled on the Christian Brueckner case in Germany right now, he's strongly suspected of killing Madison McCain and is probably tied into wider human trafficking networks. Honestly you'd find a lot more info on this subject by watching 60 Minutes Australia episodes on YouTube, they're great.
William Ramsey is really hit or miss. His research tends to be solid, but his analysis leaves a lot to be desired. Like when he was convinced that Ed Sheeran was an O9A member because he had smiley face balloons and vampires in a music video. For times and dates "This person met that person on April X 198X" etc he is fine, I guess.
How would a more serious approach benefit the topic? The very nature of the questions involved benefit from some of the more spurious connections he makes. Obviously, you cannot take them to be absolutely true, but nonetheless paint a picture. A more measured approach would just leave things out.
I don't know I think it's fine, Berkowitz is the serial killer even your most layperson normie knows didn't act alone. Time was better spent on the others who people wholly believe acted alone.
He didn't. The only thing he was guilty of is tampering with a crime scene after Tex ran to him pleading for help. Besides that, the Tate murders weren't "serial".
that was a separate charge from the murders and conspiracy charges
he was charged and found guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for his role in the Tate-LaBianca killings via "vicarious liability"
1 month ago
Anonymous
>he was charged and found guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for his role in the Tate-LaBianca killings via "vicarious liability"
The legitimacy of his sentence is what's been debated for 50 fricking years m8
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The legitimacy of his sentence is what's been debated for 50 fricking years m8
by homosexuals like youhkhw
1 month ago
Anonymous
Well people also "debate" the moon-landing so that's not my problem.
I think the guy who wrote the book in the OP also wrote one to "debunk" that one so yeah....
The guy you're replying to is probably making some tinfoil claim but the population of the turd world grew much faster than the first world and urbanization has played out there so the quantity of serial murder going in places like Africa is probably much, much higher today offsetting any police work in the first world. There's a lot of african ted bundys probably and even with cheap surveillance tools I doubt police there are working to hard to solve murders
Cameras are still shit in a lot of places and look like they haven't been replaced in 15 years.
These days you'd expect a murder to be caught from every angle (so no ambiguity about what's happening) in crystal-clear quality, but that's never the case.
You everestimate how many murders are solved. Now, of course, with serial killing the likelihood of being caught rises due to potential evidence being left, but it's far from impossible nowadays.
Also, I think the police downplay any potential serial killing to avoid hysteria and not encouraging certain behavior.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I think a lot of things are like social contagions especially nowadays with the Internet and disconnect from the real world being common. People kill others and themselves because of social contagion, when their seems to be no other reason.
The guy you're replying to is probably making some tinfoil claim but the population of the turd world grew much faster than the first world and urbanization has played out there so the quantity of serial murder going in places like Africa is probably much, much higher today offsetting any police work in the first world. There's a lot of african ted bundys probably and even with cheap surveillance tools I doubt police there are working to hard to solve murders
Cameras are still shit in a lot of places and look like they haven't been replaced in 15 years.
These days you'd expect a murder to be caught from every angle (so no ambiguity about what's happening) in crystal-clear quality, but that's never the case.
You everestimate how many murders are solved. Now, of course, with serial killing the likelihood of being caught rises due to potential evidence being left, but it's far from impossible nowadays.
Also, I think the police downplay any potential serial killing to avoid hysteria and not encouraging certain behavior.
2 months ago
Anonymous
damn 50% chance of getting away with murder
2 months ago
Anonymous
if you are not white
2 months ago
Anonymous
The high % of homicides being "cleared" and convicted in the 20th century were just because of pressuring/intimidating people into confessing, or pinning it on a mentally ill person who convinced themselves they did it (they didn't).
2 months ago
Anonymous
This is mostly due to police work being backed up and most people getting murdered being lower class, making it so you’re not high priority for seeking out a killer.
If you’re a middle class, likely white, your murder will most likely be solved. A black or Latino drifter. Good luck if they even find your body before it’s a skeleton.
2 months ago
Anonymous
How many serial killers never killed all the people they're claimed to have? If you have 10 murdered, you make a guy confess to all, the you have one murderer and 10 solved cases. Except when all the bodies are dumped in one place, you could claim anything about vaguely similarly murders. Like people kill street prostitute because they're vulnerable, outside at night, and no one cares about them. And if the public or media rather says there's a serial killer about, it is pertinent that you 'solve' it so people relax. I was thinking about this with contemporary criticisms of police regarding Jack the ripper. It seemed common for media to ride it hard and invent much. The name Jack the ripper comes from a fake letter probably written by a journalist.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Bit unclear but back then at least it seems to me that the media exaggerated or helped invent serial killers then criticised the police for not catching the one man to free us of the danger, putting public pressure on the police to do so even if they aren't sure there's even a serial killer.
2 months ago
Anonymous
i read PTK years ago but i remember a part of it that was about Bundy going down for killing someone that he logistically couldnt have killed,
I like his theory that Charles Lindbergh actually sacrificed his baby as part of a satanic ritual. Conspiracy theorists are mostly chuds who like Lindbergh so it doesn't get much attention.
The stuff on the Matamoros cult is fricking wild. I can't believe I never even heard of it before reading this. Is there any book on that case worth reading?
Troons are the purest expression of capitalism there is. A completely fake identity pushed onto the population by greedy pharmaceutical companies through the 5 media companies that decide what the nation thinks.
Suggestions for books on Gilles de Rais? La Bas seems to be impenetrable, so should I check out The Trial of Gilles de Rais by Bataille, or something else?
did he just not believe people killed en mass?
I agree that the FBI and their Behavioral Analysis Unit and profiling is bullshit and most all of these famed killers weren't acting alone and sure some of these men were patsy but the rejected the idea of serial killers in its entirety is absurd.
I also wonder why Carl Panzram and Robert Pickton the former for being a Satanist and the latter for a prolific amount of kills would according to him would be part of a group if not an outright patsy.
Skim through Panzram's account to your interest, then check out Kill 'Em All by Ryan Green. It's a more studied telling of his life. It's hard to fact check a lot of what Panzram had to say about his history, but the author did what he could.
I've read this, his other one Strange Scenes in the Desert, Chaos, The Devil's Chessboard and Aberration in the Heartland of the Real.
Anymore like this to melt my brain to?
I’ve only read one chapter from the Laurel Canyon book, and it was about Frank Zappa.
There’s one really bad part of it. In it, MacGowan talks about a concert Zappa had during the Vietnam War where he saw a group of soldiers in the crowd. He asked them to come up, and gave them a baby doll, and told the soldiers to act like it’s a “asiatic baby”.
The soldiers then rip the baby doll apart. MacGowan basically acts like that this was some kind of mock ritual sacrifice.
But if you actually know that concert, Zappa was actually trying to show the crowd the horrible things our soldiers were doing in Vietnam. He presented the ripped up baby in “Look what they’re doing over there” way. And you can hear a woman crying in the audience at that concert.
He also tried to equate the making of Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica, where Beefheart went a little nutty and basically becoming a mini-cult leader with his band, to the Manson family.
Not saying Beefheart went a bit nuts and went overboard with his band. But portraying it as getting bad as the Manson Family seems a bit too much.
I actually have thought about starting a blog to basically go through and fact check that book. Basically trying to find the evidence for McGowan’s big claims.
One of them is that his claim that Jeffrey Dahmer, when he was still in high school and a field trip with his class to Washington DC, made a phone call on a pay phone to someone and then got his class a tour of the Oval Office.
I’ve only heard this fact from McGowan’s book. Never read it anywhere else. McGowan implies that it shows Dahmer had high up government connections.
That's not one of McGowan's more bizarre claims.
A high school mate of Dahmers corroborated that- even wrote about it in My Friend Dahmer by all accounts that happened.
I do refute his claim of having connections though- Dahmer was shifty and could believable con his way into that.
Also, it was straight up a different time, call the White House and say you're on a school trip. Shit my mom saw the WH on a trip.
McGowan thinks it real, and I’ve seen people say to go read another book called “The Witch Hunt Narrative”, but when I read the chapter on McMartin, the author basically says there wasn’t ritual abuse but just plain old molestation by one of the staff on just a few kids, but the prosecution just got too over zealous in the case.
Yes. It's just about the darkest thing I've ever read. Expect to totally lose faith in humanity.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Thank you. Did you also read Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties and the Laurel Canyon book, Weird Scenes
2 months ago
Anonymous
Chaos is phenomenal I recommend The Devil's Chessboard as a companion piece to it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
It's certainly a fun read, I think the most fun of this melt-your-braincore. Some of his conclusions can be out there but a lot of it will stop you in your tracks. The army base stuff is the most viscerally upsetting imho and as I said the JonBenét stuff had me fricked up too.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Dark indeed, very interesting. Thank you for the review.
The Ramsey's obviously were apart of Boulder high society (a weird city in itself) so the guy who played Santa Claus at the party they attended the night of JonBenét death was a guy name Bill McReynolds his daughter and her friend were abducted she was returned unharmed but witnessed her friend being assaulted- no charges ever made. This guys fricking wife wrote a screenplay entitled "Hey Rube" about the abduction, torture, abuse and murder of a young girl whose battered body is found on a cold basement floor. (how JonBenét was found) Also this guy when speaking at JonBenét funeral to not only share memories of her but a few other kids whom, oddly enough he had been close to before their untimely deaths.
And a guy from the power house legal firm the Ramsey's had on retainer had deep ties to Colorado governances and the DNC- basically a fixer, a long history of making things go away, etc. Well he defended Hunter S. Thompson in his sexual assault legal case curiously Thompson writes a column named "Hey Rube."
Hunter S. Thompson was also named in the Franklin Cover-up book. That guy is so fricking sketchy.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, McGowan mentions it in that passage too.
He kept some queer company- I mean one of his most famous text was on the Hell Angels who have been muscle for a lot of these freaks and deep connections to LeVay/Satanists.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, McGowan mentions it in that passage too.
He kept some queer company- I mean one of his most famous text was on the Hell Angels who have been muscle for a lot of these freaks and deep connections to LeVay/Satanists.
The other book about the Franklin Coverup, the one by Nick Bryant, actually debunked the Hunter Thompson thing. The author put a photo lineup that included Hunter Thompson’s picture in front of the victim that made that initial claim, and the victim couldn’t recognize him.
Bryant concludes that whoever was actually there identified himself as Hunter Thompson, but wasn’t actually him. Most likely to frick with the victim.
Police fricked up that crime scene so badly that we’ll never know what happened, sadly. It’s even unclear if a sexual assault happened. If it did, I think intruder. If it didn’t, I think a family member accidentally killed her and shit was staged
2 months ago
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They did find semen on the child's body. It's in the book they mentioned it.
One claim I found a bit suspect was about Dahmer carrying the barrels into his apartment. Couldn't he have carried the barrels without the bodies in them? Or did he move the barrels after putting the corpses in?
What do you think the deal with Henry Lee Lucas is?
McGowan and people who’ve read him believe that he was likely a part of come clandestine cartel assassin group, but I watched the Confession Killer documentary on Netflix and it makes it out that Lucas had too low of an IQ to kill that many people. There’s even a part where they show him meeting a Japanese documentary crew and he told them that he drove to Japan and killed a few people there, he was that moronic.
The documentary’s conclusion is that Lucas was basically used to close cold cases. And he probably killed a few people, probably less than 10 women.
But the weird thing still is why George W. Bush, when he was still governor of Texas, commuted Lucas’ death penalty to life in prison. If Lucas really knew too much, wouldn’t it have been better to kill him? But those who Bush’s term as governor knew he was pretty pro-death penalty, and Lucas was one of the few who he commuted.
>Following the discovery in Matamoros, Clemmie Schroeder—identified as Henry’s spiritual adviser—sent to the state attorney general a map Lucas had drawn for her in 1985 that identified locations where murder, kidnapping and drug-running operations were conducted. She told a reporter for the Brownsville Herald: “Henry told me there were a lot of different cults in Mexico who were involved in satanic worship and everything. I found the map and realized he had marked this cult and drug ring near Brownsville.” The attorney general’s office chose not to take any action. In an interview conducted following the exposure of the Matamoros cult, Ottis Toole claimed that it was not the specific ranch with which he and Henry were associated, but he also emphasized that there were many such interconnected operations along the Texas/Mexico border >In the wake of the Matamoros case, two members of the Texas state legislature, Senator J.E. Brown and Representative Sam Johnson, introduced a bill aimed at combating cult-related ritual crime, which they asserted was a burgeoning problem in Texas and elsewhere in the country. After a decade had passed, the problem had not abated, as became evident when yet another excavation was begun, at a ranch near Juarez, Mexico. That property was, strangely enough, located precisely where Henry Lee Lucas had claimed that the ‘Hand of Death’ cult maintained a ranch.
Typical psychologist like peterstein, mixing every moronic shit together without any overarching view.
His shitposting lacks substantial evidence and relies heavily on conjecture of the schizo kind.
For anything, dig he dig deeper? Do field research, try to find someone who worked in any place he mentions? No, like never.
>Man disappears without a trace, just vanishes one night without explanation >Someone reports that there's a group of people driving around the area in his car >The police find the car parked in front of a dilapidated house, they investigate it >They find the tortured corpse of the missing man, autopsy says he was tortured for an entire day >They also find another 8 bodies in similar condition >There is no relation between the victims at all >There is literally no clue of who lived in this house, or who were the people driving around in the car >Not a single news outlet speaks about this
Hahaha imagine if this actually happened in real life
And only you and a bunch of other people knew about it
woudn't it make for a fricking scary book plot
hahahaha
If a more serious version of this would to be released - it will reveal and implicate too many notable people. It will never happen. Maybe in like 100 years when the smoke clears and enough people are dead, maybe some revelations will start coming out and everything will connect, but by then it won't even matter.
Pretty sure we’re at the point where the CIA could come out and say we actually did kill Kennedy, but that was the “old” CIA and that they don’t do stuff like that anymore and it was a few old rotten apples who are all dead now.
I wouldn't be surprised. What they won't be disclosing any time soon however is the current mind control program that they're undoubtedly doing. Project MKU ended but a LOT of really useful info was acquired from it and now whatever they must be doing now is probably more operational if still subject to study.
Somebody did.
Is this the guy from the exile
I don't want to type these words into a search engine. Can someone give me catbox.moe links, pretty please?
Are you worried you'll be flagged
Don't be a baby dude.
Bro, if you use a smartphone you are already sticking a camera and microphone in front of your face for most of the day. We are already under heavy surveillance, just don't let the fear and paranoia prevent you from moving forward. Go on your way in spite of it all, they can't do shit to you unless you allow them, and you allow them by believing that they are more powerful than you.
The best you're gonna get is Aberration in the Heartland of the Real by Wendy S. Painting + Chaos by Tom O'Neill. Haven't read the latter yet but both (especially Chaos, apparently) go heavy into mind control, human trafficking, and Dr. Jolly West, among other things. Another good author to look up is William Ramsey but his podcast is worth a lot more than his books (two books on Aleister Crowley under his belt and that's it). Another good resource is the podcast "Le Monstre" about the Marc Dutroux case in Belgium. Also keep your eyes peeled on the Christian Brueckner case in Germany right now, he's strongly suspected of killing Madison McCain and is probably tied into wider human trafficking networks. Honestly you'd find a lot more info on this subject by watching 60 Minutes Australia episodes on YouTube, they're great.
I never really had any interest in mcveigh but Abberation was really good.
William Ramsey is really hit or miss. His research tends to be solid, but his analysis leaves a lot to be desired. Like when he was convinced that Ed Sheeran was an O9A member because he had smiley face balloons and vampires in a music video. For times and dates "This person met that person on April X 198X" etc he is fine, I guess.
Anyone who grifts with "muh neo-nazis" like this guy should be immediately dismissed as a crank or fed.
Aberration was phenomenal.
Do IQfygays have no self-control, do you just go to a random book store and buy every piece of trash just because it has a catchy title or cover?
A random bookstore? No. Amazon? Yes.
How would a more serious approach benefit the topic? The very nature of the questions involved benefit from some of the more spurious connections he makes. Obviously, you cannot take them to be absolutely true, but nonetheless paint a picture. A more measured approach would just leave things out.
Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties by Tom O'Neill
some IQfy pizzagate archive.
Btw does some anon here have some links? Thanks
>a more serious version of this.
You mean the whole satanic calendar thing? Hypnotic programming? Snuff videos?
https://isgp-studies.com/pizzagate
Yes
It pisses me off that this dude dropped crazy hints about David Berkowitz and then never followed up on them or mentioned them again.
Read The Ultimate Evil by Maury Terry.
Does he mention the phone numbers written on the walls in Berkowitz's apartment that McGowan hints at but never explains?
I don't know I think it's fine, Berkowitz is the serial killer even your most layperson normie knows didn't act alone. Time was better spent on the others who people wholly believe acted alone.
that last thread was awesome, some anons were really putting in work.
Anymore esoteric postings we can get going?
Can you post a link to the last thread?
Sorry it was a great IQfy thread.
>serial killers
>Charles Manson
Manson has always been and continues to be a litmus test for NPCs.
He made them all look like fools, didn't he?
Sending people to kill someone is still murder you moron.
He didn't. The only thing he was guilty of is tampering with a crime scene after Tex ran to him pleading for help. Besides that, the Tate murders weren't "serial".
that was a separate charge from the murders and conspiracy charges
he was charged and found guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for his role in the Tate-LaBianca killings via "vicarious liability"
>he was charged and found guilty of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder for his role in the Tate-LaBianca killings via "vicarious liability"
The legitimacy of his sentence is what's been debated for 50 fricking years m8
>The legitimacy of his sentence is what's been debated for 50 fricking years m8
by homosexuals like youhkhw
Well people also "debate" the moon-landing so that's not my problem.
I think the guy who wrote the book in the OP also wrote one to "debunk" that one so yeah....
It's such a moronic thing to think Serial Killers were actually a big issue at some point
There's still lots of serial murderers around. They just don't put it on the news anymore.
How could you be a serial killer now with cctv cameras everywhere
The guy you're replying to is probably making some tinfoil claim but the population of the turd world grew much faster than the first world and urbanization has played out there so the quantity of serial murder going in places like Africa is probably much, much higher today offsetting any police work in the first world. There's a lot of african ted bundys probably and even with cheap surveillance tools I doubt police there are working to hard to solve murders
Cameras are still shit in a lot of places and look like they haven't been replaced in 15 years.
These days you'd expect a murder to be caught from every angle (so no ambiguity about what's happening) in crystal-clear quality, but that's never the case.
You everestimate how many murders are solved. Now, of course, with serial killing the likelihood of being caught rises due to potential evidence being left, but it's far from impossible nowadays.
Also, I think the police downplay any potential serial killing to avoid hysteria and not encouraging certain behavior.
Yeah I think a lot of things are like social contagions especially nowadays with the Internet and disconnect from the real world being common. People kill others and themselves because of social contagion, when their seems to be no other reason.
damn 50% chance of getting away with murder
if you are not white
The high % of homicides being "cleared" and convicted in the 20th century were just because of pressuring/intimidating people into confessing, or pinning it on a mentally ill person who convinced themselves they did it (they didn't).
This is mostly due to police work being backed up and most people getting murdered being lower class, making it so you’re not high priority for seeking out a killer.
If you’re a middle class, likely white, your murder will most likely be solved. A black or Latino drifter. Good luck if they even find your body before it’s a skeleton.
How many serial killers never killed all the people they're claimed to have? If you have 10 murdered, you make a guy confess to all, the you have one murderer and 10 solved cases. Except when all the bodies are dumped in one place, you could claim anything about vaguely similarly murders. Like people kill street prostitute because they're vulnerable, outside at night, and no one cares about them. And if the public or media rather says there's a serial killer about, it is pertinent that you 'solve' it so people relax. I was thinking about this with contemporary criticisms of police regarding Jack the ripper. It seemed common for media to ride it hard and invent much. The name Jack the ripper comes from a fake letter probably written by a journalist.
Bit unclear but back then at least it seems to me that the media exaggerated or helped invent serial killers then criticised the police for not catching the one man to free us of the danger, putting public pressure on the police to do so even if they aren't sure there's even a serial killer.
i read PTK years ago but i remember a part of it that was about Bundy going down for killing someone that he logistically couldnt have killed,
This is the most naive comment I've read on this site in years
they should make a MOVIE
I like his theory that Charles Lindbergh actually sacrificed his baby as part of a satanic ritual. Conspiracy theorists are mostly chuds who like Lindbergh so it doesn't get much attention.
>not wanting your nation to enter a meaningless war for financial interests make you le chud
didn't know 2000s liberals were chuds
The stuff on the Matamoros cult is fricking wild. I can't believe I never even heard of it before reading this. Is there any book on that case worth reading?
good in a similar vein.
read this on your recomendation. went in a much different direction than i was expecting.
>le capitalism bad slop
Ohh please.
capitalism is bad
kys troony
Troons are the purest expression of capitalism there is. A completely fake identity pushed onto the population by greedy pharmaceutical companies through the 5 media companies that decide what the nation thinks.
and that is why they hate its Daddy Issues thing.
How much public documentation is there about the Cl*nton kill list and people being suicided in general? I bet it's not enough to write a book off of.
More likely to see a Laurel Canyon musicians biopic than a cereal book
I think the fixation of dates was off and the goofiest part of the book but I still love this.
Picrel is schizo, and not in a good way.
Suggestions for books on Gilles de Rais? La Bas seems to be impenetrable, so should I check out The Trial of Gilles de Rais by Bataille, or something else?
Bumping for an answer
did he just not believe people killed en mass?
I agree that the FBI and their Behavioral Analysis Unit and profiling is bullshit and most all of these famed killers weren't acting alone and sure some of these men were patsy but the rejected the idea of serial killers in its entirety is absurd.
I also wonder why Carl Panzram and Robert Pickton the former for being a Satanist and the latter for a prolific amount of kills would according to him would be part of a group if not an outright patsy.
I bought the Panzram autobiography. It's short. Should I read it tonight?
Isn't that hard to come by?
Yeah totally man read it. If this thread is still up I'd love to know what you thought about it.
>Isn't that hard to come by?
No? It was like ten bucks on Amazon.
Hhm, I thought it was out of print for sometime OR more likely I've gotten Panzram's autobiography mixed w/ something because I'm medically stupid.
It's OK anon *pats head*
Skim through Panzram's account to your interest, then check out Kill 'Em All by Ryan Green. It's a more studied telling of his life. It's hard to fact check a lot of what Panzram had to say about his history, but the author did what he could.
I've read this, his other one Strange Scenes in the Desert, Chaos, The Devil's Chessboard and Aberration in the Heartland of the Real.
Anymore like this to melt my brain to?
Aberration on the Heartland of the Real fricked with me
Forreal, by the end I felt like I was dissociating.
Explain.
Boy, it's shills. Nobody is impressed by bourgeois Marxists willling to touch conspiracy theories decades later when it's safe to do so.
I didn't read the Conclusion because I figured there'd be no new revelations in it. Bad decision?
>Aberration in the Heartland of the Real
Aberration in the heartland of the real : the secret lives of Timothy McVeigh
by Painting, Wendy S., author
?
I’ve only read one chapter from the Laurel Canyon book, and it was about Frank Zappa.
There’s one really bad part of it. In it, MacGowan talks about a concert Zappa had during the Vietnam War where he saw a group of soldiers in the crowd. He asked them to come up, and gave them a baby doll, and told the soldiers to act like it’s a “asiatic baby”.
The soldiers then rip the baby doll apart. MacGowan basically acts like that this was some kind of mock ritual sacrifice.
But if you actually know that concert, Zappa was actually trying to show the crowd the horrible things our soldiers were doing in Vietnam. He presented the ripped up baby in “Look what they’re doing over there” way. And you can hear a woman crying in the audience at that concert.
He also tried to equate the making of Captain Beefheart’s Trout Mask Replica, where Beefheart went a little nutty and basically becoming a mini-cult leader with his band, to the Manson family.
Not saying Beefheart went a bit nuts and went overboard with his band. But portraying it as getting bad as the Manson Family seems a bit too much.
I actually have thought about starting a blog to basically go through and fact check that book. Basically trying to find the evidence for McGowan’s big claims.
One of them is that his claim that Jeffrey Dahmer, when he was still in high school and a field trip with his class to Washington DC, made a phone call on a pay phone to someone and then got his class a tour of the Oval Office.
I’ve only heard this fact from McGowan’s book. Never read it anywhere else. McGowan implies that it shows Dahmer had high up government connections.
I fricked it up, it was actually the Vice President’s office, not the Oval Office.
That's not one of McGowan's more bizarre claims.
A high school mate of Dahmers corroborated that- even wrote about it in My Friend Dahmer by all accounts that happened.
I do refute his claim of having connections though- Dahmer was shifty and could believable con his way into that.
Also, it was straight up a different time, call the White House and say you're on a school trip. Shit my mom saw the WH on a trip.
So what’s the deal with McMartin preschool?
McGowan thinks it real, and I’ve seen people say to go read another book called “The Witch Hunt Narrative”, but when I read the chapter on McMartin, the author basically says there wasn’t ritual abuse but just plain old molestation by one of the staff on just a few kids, but the prosecution just got too over zealous in the case.
The part about the cop who committed suicide before he could testify is pretty insane though. Do we have any idea on what he was going to say?
I will say this about the novel.
The JonBenét chapter, the Hey Rube thing made my jaw drop I think I audibly gasped.
Which chapter is that? The chapters aren't named about all the killers
Boulder- it's at the very end.
Is it worth the read? The book in general
Yes. It's just about the darkest thing I've ever read. Expect to totally lose faith in humanity.
Thank you. Did you also read Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties and the Laurel Canyon book, Weird Scenes
Chaos is phenomenal I recommend The Devil's Chessboard as a companion piece to it.
It's certainly a fun read, I think the most fun of this melt-your-braincore. Some of his conclusions can be out there but a lot of it will stop you in your tracks. The army base stuff is the most viscerally upsetting imho and as I said the JonBenét stuff had me fricked up too.
Dark indeed, very interesting. Thank you for the review.
Can you elaborate? I’m interested
The Ramsey's obviously were apart of Boulder high society (a weird city in itself) so the guy who played Santa Claus at the party they attended the night of JonBenét death was a guy name Bill McReynolds his daughter and her friend were abducted she was returned unharmed but witnessed her friend being assaulted- no charges ever made. This guys fricking wife wrote a screenplay entitled "Hey Rube" about the abduction, torture, abuse and murder of a young girl whose battered body is found on a cold basement floor. (how JonBenét was found) Also this guy when speaking at JonBenét funeral to not only share memories of her but a few other kids whom, oddly enough he had been close to before their untimely deaths.
And a guy from the power house legal firm the Ramsey's had on retainer had deep ties to Colorado governances and the DNC- basically a fixer, a long history of making things go away, etc. Well he defended Hunter S. Thompson in his sexual assault legal case curiously Thompson writes a column named "Hey Rube."
Hunter S. Thompson was also named in the Franklin Cover-up book. That guy is so fricking sketchy.
Yeah, McGowan mentions it in that passage too.
He kept some queer company- I mean one of his most famous text was on the Hell Angels who have been muscle for a lot of these freaks and deep connections to LeVay/Satanists.
The other book about the Franklin Coverup, the one by Nick Bryant, actually debunked the Hunter Thompson thing. The author put a photo lineup that included Hunter Thompson’s picture in front of the victim that made that initial claim, and the victim couldn’t recognize him.
Bryant concludes that whoever was actually there identified himself as Hunter Thompson, but wasn’t actually him. Most likely to frick with the victim.
Police fricked up that crime scene so badly that we’ll never know what happened, sadly. It’s even unclear if a sexual assault happened. If it did, I think intruder. If it didn’t, I think a family member accidentally killed her and shit was staged
They did find semen on the child's body. It's in the book they mentioned it.
One claim I found a bit suspect was about Dahmer carrying the barrels into his apartment. Couldn't he have carried the barrels without the bodies in them? Or did he move the barrels after putting the corpses in?
Anyone heard of the toy-box killer? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray
His articles on the Lincoln Assassination are really worth reading too.
This is very entertaining. I read it for fun.
Fun reading lol.
It's a fricking page turner man that's for sure lol.
I have to read it.
Did you ever read:
The Ultimate Evil: The Search for the Sons of Sam
What do you think the deal with Henry Lee Lucas is?
McGowan and people who’ve read him believe that he was likely a part of come clandestine cartel assassin group, but I watched the Confession Killer documentary on Netflix and it makes it out that Lucas had too low of an IQ to kill that many people. There’s even a part where they show him meeting a Japanese documentary crew and he told them that he drove to Japan and killed a few people there, he was that moronic.
The documentary’s conclusion is that Lucas was basically used to close cold cases. And he probably killed a few people, probably less than 10 women.
But the weird thing still is why George W. Bush, when he was still governor of Texas, commuted Lucas’ death penalty to life in prison. If Lucas really knew too much, wouldn’t it have been better to kill him? But those who Bush’s term as governor knew he was pretty pro-death penalty, and Lucas was one of the few who he commuted.
>Following the discovery in Matamoros, Clemmie Schroeder—identified as Henry’s spiritual adviser—sent to the state attorney general a map Lucas had drawn for her in 1985 that identified locations where murder, kidnapping and drug-running operations were conducted. She told a reporter for the Brownsville Herald: “Henry told me there were a lot of different cults in Mexico who were involved in satanic worship and everything. I found the map and realized he had marked this cult and drug ring near Brownsville.” The attorney general’s office chose not to take any action. In an interview conducted following the exposure of the Matamoros cult, Ottis Toole claimed that it was not the specific ranch with which he and Henry were associated, but he also emphasized that there were many such interconnected operations along the Texas/Mexico border
>In the wake of the Matamoros case, two members of the Texas state legislature, Senator J.E. Brown and Representative Sam Johnson, introduced a bill aimed at combating cult-related ritual crime, which they asserted was a burgeoning problem in Texas and elsewhere in the country. After a decade had passed, the problem had not abated, as became evident when yet another excavation was begun, at a ranch near Juarez, Mexico. That property was, strangely enough, located precisely where Henry Lee Lucas had claimed that the ‘Hand of Death’ cult maintained a ranch.
The date stuff is cringe but the book is great.
Which date stuff?
The military base stats was the most upsetting and eye opening part.
Typical psychologist like peterstein, mixing every moronic shit together without any overarching view.
His shitposting lacks substantial evidence and relies heavily on conjecture of the schizo kind.
For anything, dig he dig deeper? Do field research, try to find someone who worked in any place he mentions? No, like never.
Are you part of it?
Does he talk about Hollywood in particular or at length?
He has a whole book on Hollywood.
Yeah? What is it?
Do you know what Google is, anon?
Well do you know what it means to not be rude?
Which book on Hollywood?
any homie got more shit like chaos and aberration?
The Snow Killings
Poisoner in Chief
>Man disappears without a trace, just vanishes one night without explanation
>Someone reports that there's a group of people driving around the area in his car
>The police find the car parked in front of a dilapidated house, they investigate it
>They find the tortured corpse of the missing man, autopsy says he was tortured for an entire day
>They also find another 8 bodies in similar condition
>There is no relation between the victims at all
>There is literally no clue of who lived in this house, or who were the people driving around in the car
>Not a single news outlet speaks about this
Hahaha imagine if this actually happened in real life
And only you and a bunch of other people knew about it
woudn't it make for a fricking scary book plot
hahahaha
Seriously vindicated after that Dan the Man doc- the gay pedophile rapist was penpals with John Wayne Gacy
Lock in schizo nation
He stopped writing and renounced some stuff he said about the tribe.
What a cry baby
He might've been threatened to do that. But he is a Boomer as well, weird to go from super based and retract from that.
Ridiculous claim. He wrote Judaism Discovered after Secret Societies and Psychological Warfare.
No he didn't, moron
He's not writing anything now though?
it's an op
So he's dead?
If a more serious version of this would to be released - it will reveal and implicate too many notable people. It will never happen. Maybe in like 100 years when the smoke clears and enough people are dead, maybe some revelations will start coming out and everything will connect, but by then it won't even matter.
Pretty sure we’re at the point where the CIA could come out and say we actually did kill Kennedy, but that was the “old” CIA and that they don’t do stuff like that anymore and it was a few old rotten apples who are all dead now.
I wouldn't be surprised. What they won't be disclosing any time soon however is the current mind control program that they're undoubtedly doing. Project MKU ended but a LOT of really useful info was acquired from it and now whatever they must be doing now is probably more operational if still subject to study.
guys this stuff is really fricking weird and I don't know if I want to keep looking into it
How good of a read is Aberration in the Heartland of the Real?
It's really good. Truth nuke after truth nuke.
My pal has a copy- suppose I'll drop by tomorrow jerkoff has a good nine of my books at his place.
>gf found Programed to Kill when my library shelf fell
It's joeover
Anyone ever read this? Any good?
Read this first then Programed- very complementary works.
https://youtube.com/@LOLFIELDANDLOVE
Based on this book. It has great footage from old news shows on the various people in the book and more.
Thank you.
>open link
>click on 'Videos' tab
>latest video: "...Part 363..."
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