I want to physically understand computers all the way from electrons to super clusters Where do i start?

I want to physically understand computers all the way from electrons to super clusters Where do i start?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The beach... you'll need some sand

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fippy bippy

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hack_computer / Hack architecture, or some of the "working computer in Minecraft redstone" tuts on YT, aslo "OSDev"

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By paying attention in maths and physics classes, nerd.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Implying you learn anything in school

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You've been lied to all your life, electricity flows from negative to positive.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      most electricity "flows" in AC tho.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Electricity doesn't flow at all. "Current" manifests when impedance and magnetic fields converge in a particular phase. Flow is just a colloquialism that is close enough to reality to be useful.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except materials that are conductive are usually missing an electron so electrons can flow into them and create the magnetic field

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not "missing", but they have vacant electron orbitals that can be occupied in order for electricity to flow. Now, materials that are conductive are also generally stable, because they were missing one or more electrons in order to achieve stability, they'd start having chemicals reactions with whatever they are surrounded by in order to gain the missing electrons. It's nowhere near that simple, but that's the gist of it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Current in a standard conductor is literally the number of electrons per second passing through a surface fartsniffer. The electrons are flowing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If I have two circuits, each with a source, a switch, and a light, both placed in identical arrangements, but one has 3 meters of wire, and one has a wire that wraps around the earth once, and I hit both switches at the same time, both bulbs light up at the same time. This is not commensurate with what you describe.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm one of the cp shills but you should consider suicide?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already did that when I was 15. Then it was revealed to me that 23 years in the future some absolute unit would respond to my post on an anime board and suggest that I kill myself instead of contributing anything useful because he's an idiot. And I decided I didn't want to give homosexuals like you the satisfaction.
            And nothing that has been said has showed me to be wrong.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you do it with a superconductor and wind it around earth, the current through the light will be as if it had resistor in series for ~10 milliseconds, before oscillating and settling on a current determined purely by the resistance of the light. With the 3 meter wire that happens after 10 nanoseconds. Transmission lines, how do they work?

            Either way, electrons are flowing through the light.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, what you call "flow" is something different entirely, because it's not a transmission of physical force between particles. It's a simultaneous occurrence throughout the transmission line. It's like trying to explain to a 3rd grader that numbers can be negative.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's a simultaneous occurrence throughout the transmission line
            You're trying to understand EM duality and drift velocity filtered through a couple poorly understood fartsniffing youtube videos. Just because the electrons don't move purely due to electrostatic forces because of the EM duality and their drift velocity is different from the wavefront velocity is such an stupid gotcha, it never deserved the videos.

            Ampere is Coulomb per second, countable electrons flowing through the connections of the light.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Current is flowing through the transmission line. Time for some truth. The electric and magnetic fields are not real. What is real is that currents and charges interact with the Coulomb force and are forced to obey a continuity equation (because by their nature currents are moving charges so current dendity flowing to a spot creates charge density there etc). The Coulomb force affects all space so moving charges on the opposite ends of a transmission line still interact with it although their interaction is limited by relativistic effects (and so you can have waves on the fields and fields are just measures propotional to the force a hypothetical charged particle would be subject to depending on it's position in space which translates to waves on the force the real charges feel on the other end). The video by veritasium incorrectly assumes charges can only interact with their neighboring charges I think. Fields are an abstraction over this event to simplify calculations

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also: the north pole is a magnetic south pole

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what are the implications of this on santa claus?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >electricity flows

      no

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just consider them as lifeforms (from sentience of dark earth) that make themselves through a spectrum of soul energy that is related to - tears (its a dark realm within creation that is related to a wazard/doppleganger of Time like a number in numbers), its very similar like how bodies create themselves through full sex.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://github.com/pkivolowitz/asm_book

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.nand2tetris.org/
    start here

    you will also want to review how transistors work. So go search for some simple book on that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can't understand computers at a whole, it's long beyond human capabilities since most of it is computer generated from abstractions.
      I suspect that nearly no one is able to do better than smart compilers and eda tools now.
      You can understand the principles beyond it however since each step is understandable by itself

      I found a flash or html game where you design computer logical diagrams ending up making a tiny Turing coplete processor

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Computers could theoretically work with mechanical relays or pneumatic logic systems.
      Pneumatic logic cells exist for explosive atmosphere automation, where you cannot risk any electric spark

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The best start is CODE by Charles Petzold. Essentially you go from learning about the basics of physics to binary to circuits to building a CPU and an assembler all in your head. It's a great start, then learn a programming language and tackle nand2tetris as said. ur gonna be a l33t h4x0r dawg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >https://www.nand2tetris.org/
      Oh god, just look at this website... It's clear, concise, not resource intensive... fricking disgusting.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unironically
    cp

    with that, and paranoia, you will fall into a rabbit hole of hardening your security and """"privoocy"". you start with optimizing your browser, then you move onto debloating your OS from """"glowies""" and setting up a properly secured private network. then you fall deeper all the way down to low level sytems. down to binary, down to transistor level, down to electrons level. until you reach computer enlightenment.

    also a good start that i'd recommend is to watch lukesmith and mentaloutlaw youtube.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is why its best just considering them (devices of black rock) as lifeforms of entity of memory from the realm of dead through the sentience of dark through artificial electricity that are making themselves through soul energy related to tears and they see through memory, all the 2D realm of memory in reality and internet is related to that entity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      well, rewriting cp in Rust would be a good practice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cp addiction gives comp sci superpowers

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is "cp"?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cheezy Pizza.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't every pizza cheezy?
          So, why cheezy?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i hate that this is true. i wouldn't secured a position at the agency without cp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bullshit. cyberpunk is a shit game with no basis in reality. OP don't listen to this poster, you'll learn nothing from this game and will only waste your time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not that cp

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The term you're looking for is "computer organization", it's exactly one course that covers how you get from electricity to logic gates to actual computers.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice, thanks.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you start with the eniac
    diodes triodes transistors and all that good stuff
    then watch some ben eater, maybe buy his kit and build it

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nand2tetris

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ye OP this
      it's like a crash course on that shit, if you're still interested after going through it, you will find the information yourself

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to physically understand computers all the way from electrons to super clusters Where do i start?
    Go to eBay and buy a set of Understanding Computers by Time Life. They were printed in the 1980s but are still amazing. Then try Code by Charles Petzold.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For a start, you leave IQfy. You won't learn anything useful here,arguing over what's the best HAL for a web browser.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    compilers

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Study electrical engineering and learn electrostatics and then semiconductors.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start with quantum computing. Just but one, starting at 9k.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna go easy on you cause you're an apu poster but do you people seriously not know about, like, reading? Just start reading a god damn book

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I just wanted to hear your favorite book

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I personally don't have a favorite that would be terribly relevant to you, fren, but I will say the most fun I've had reading a computer related book was this one about TCP/IP. But the book was from 1988 and I don't remember the title or anything now, unfortunately.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn it! Now I really want to find that book.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn it! Now I really want to find that book.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thanks, but no, it wasn't that one. It had a black cover with this stylized techno looking text on the front. But I'm sure reading a similar book would be just as fun, it's only my autism triggering me to want to figure out what exact book it was that I'd read.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my favorite book is mata onaji yume wo miteita

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where do i start?
    The way I did it was enrolling in TSO at my local CEGEP. I dunno how that would translate into Amiercan.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >from electrons
    Start by studying electromagnetism, how semi-conductors work, how to make a transistor, how transistors work, etc
    Then start learning Boolean logic and Logic Gates.

    Then you should go to hardware architecture/engineering, but I recommend learning what a Turing machine is first.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Granted, I wanted to help you more from here, but I completely sucked at architecture/engineering.
      Either way, after that you learn Assembly.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First do some physics, then electrical engineering, then do NAND2Tetris (the best way to learn programming) and then learn high level languages and how modern hardware abstractions work.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go back to 1800 or something

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    electrons are not real, give me some time and i will get a nobel about it

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    install gentoo

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >physically understand
    EM fields, quantum physics -> semiconductor physics, electric circuits -> electronics -> digital electronics (optional: power electronics, for power supplies etc) -> computer architecture, computer organization -> microprocessors, vlsi -> done
    However you can't just jump into EM and quantum. The requirements for these are as follows:
    Calculus, linear algebra -> multivariate calculus -> ordinary differential equations -> classical mechanics, partial differential equations -> EM, quantum
    Optionally you can enrich this by including stuff like operating systems or parallel processing to understand also how computers are operated instead of just the principles of their physical operation
    With these you will achieve a full understanding of the physical aspects of computing but you will likely lack knowledge of what a computer really is. It makes sence if you think about it, you found an alien machine and you are finding out everything about how it works, how it was made, how it's organized what knowledge the aliens who made it had, even how to operate it, but you aren't learning the idea behind it's construction. Like you learned how to make and fly the saucer but if you met an alien he'd be able to describe a hundred variants you couldn't imagine
    Oh and additionally this won't teach you anything about what happens when you write or execute code because that has nothing to do with hardware

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can start by digging around in my ass and see what you find. I'll get the lube.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Where do i start?
    large doses of DMT

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boolean algebra and Logic

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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