I will be honest, I never liked Codes of Conduct (CoCs) but this profound perspective really got me thinking: Was I wrong?

I will be honest, I never liked Codes of Conduct (CoCs) but this profound perspective really got me thinking: Was I wrong?
What do you think, IQfy?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i dont know who that is or what that site he is posting on is. how does this affect me exactly? also what do wienerS have to do with technology? is this some gay shit?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The purpose of a CoC is to politicize engineering endeavors and shut down dissent.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if these homosexuals left the flowery bullshit at Reddit and spoke in plain English.

      This. A code repository is not a hugbox. It's a fricking code repository.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A code repository is not a hugbox.
        One could use the same words to justify removing right wing contributors from the project

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What right-wing contributors? CoC's have been weaponized against anyone that is not a bongwater swilling dildo swinger and quality has gone downhill across all of swe.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >could
          WOW thing could mean thing!
          There are actual consequences on this planet. People die. Prison. homeless and sick for years.
          Right wing nonsense? Potential exclusion from a single thing?

          Frick off

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >flowery bullshit
        Is learning to read illegal in America?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Is learning how to communicate clearly and concisely a lost art in your shithole?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      Everyone knows the score. Any "nuanced take" on CoC is wordcel nonsense, engaging with a hypothetical set of "rules" that exists only in your head.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It sounds sorta like a coherent thought, except he either doesn't seem to realize that the CoC IS the box he seems to be complaining about, or he's simply happy to have freedom of expression shrink because I dunno that's just what being a decent fricking human being means.
    Also frick off drew and stop stirring up shit, you are the problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Drew was not the one who banned Hyprland, moron. That was Lyude

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He was still part of the shit flinging.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        probably the main instigator for it however

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        but he is the same kind of subhuman and supports this kind of subhuman behaviour as displayed by that other homosexual. no matter what he says here. he doesn't even say anything clear here. not sure if op is trolling by calling this "profound", or just a moronic subhuman.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >CoC IS the box he seems to be complaining about
      I literally thought this was what he was arguing at first and got confused because it seemed self-contradictory to the previous statement.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        that is what he's talking about, isn't it? he says the box defines what is socially acceptable, which is what the wiener also defines, so the box must be the wiener
        to me his posts are saying that the wiener is intentionally designed to ensure things which would only barely be acceptable otherwise aren't accepted, and any complaints justify making more things unacceptable
        i'm not sure where he's going with this or really even whether he thinks this is a good or bad thing

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sounds like some leftist word salad.
    Disregarded.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Too much speak. Me not understand. Me want to YouTube shorts instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not everybody is a onions drinking homosexual like you anon. Some of us are disgusted by the degeneracy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >you're a soi drinking homosexual if you're capable of reading more than 140 characters

          Brevity is the soul of wit.

          >another low IQ individual who misunderstands a quote to justify his lack of literacy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            did you make the post in the screenshot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Brevity is the soul of wit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >flowery bullshit
        Is learning to read illegal in America?

        No I seriously don't get what he wants to convey here.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Every CoC I've ever seen is only used as a weapon to enforce and mandate extreme progressive left agenda.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I have to address someone as an attack helicopter, this is literally CHINAAAAA

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >have to
        yes, that is china

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know that China is actully more free than the west

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Delusional "freedoms".

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            either delusional or wishful thinking.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >free to be run over and killed by ccp officials who are above the law
            >free to be crushed and killed by one of the thousands of chinese structures whose construction is out of specifications but ignored by bribed ccp inspectors
            >free to be bankrupted by chinese suppliers who lie about the specs of the structural steel that they supply & produce fraudulent reports
            >free to become physically ill after consuming "recycled" gutter oil and "recycled" bottled water from a sewer
            >free to use the internet only with a VPN because my government wants to stop me from seeing any information they dislike
            >free to have a genocide perpetrated against me because I was born in the west of china where the han chinese were never an ethnic majority
            if you aren't a paid chinese shill, you are a useful idiot for one of the most oppressive and unjust regimes in the world. fall into an escalator.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >>free to be run over and killed by ccp officials who are above the law
            Agree with the rest, but this happens in the US all the time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            if you go anywhere with gore videos, you will see hundreds of videos each year of people in china intentionally driving over pedestrians and driving into people who are on scooters or motorcycles. there is a recurring theme where chinese people believe that if they have the ability to commit vehicular manslaughter that they also have the right to.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >free to be killed by black-skinned gud bois for any reason, including no reason
            >free to pay an arm and a leg for housing because half the country belongs to Bill Gates
            >free to have my money stolen by Larry Fink to finance Blackrock activities
            >free to become physically ill after eating microchip cheese and being forced to take a very safe vaccine
            >free to be spied on under threat of being accused of being a pedo and have your rights taken away if you don't
            >free to be replaced by hordes of imported thirdies with the full approval of your fellow man, who is vastly more concerned with not being seen as racist

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            oh, so you think that the threat of violence, high costs of living due to speculative investment, corporate and government corruption resulting in loss of private assets, food safety, government surveillance, floods of low-wage imported laborers, and being brutally penalized for disagreeing with government policy are exclusive to the west and do not happen in china? this confirms it- you don't know anything at all about china.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You somehow got the exact literal opposite of the point I was making.
            Congrats. I'm sure you'll get many social points for this.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i think that the point you were making is that you can disingenuously whataboutism me with false equivalencies by completely ignoring the scale and prevalence of the problems as you've reframed them. i already knew this, however

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >STOP POINTING OUT MY HOUSE STINKS JUST AS BADLY YOU'RE BEING DISINGENOUS

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            maybe anon's house wouldn't stink if xir's axe wound wasn't leaking pus everywhere xe sits

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >this is literally CHINAAAAA
        No it's worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's isomorphic to some of the torture scenes in 1984 you dumb Black person. It's just not backed up by violence (yet). They want to have total control over your internal world and understanding of reality, if anything it's worse than China.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You have to be joking. There is no way you are serious lmao

          [...]

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever actually read 1984? Nothing I said was controversial except maybe 'Black person', if you're a queer.

            [...]
            I'll simplify what the schizo said.

            You are being coerced to engage in a lie and when you do so you become an accomplice amongst many that are also cognizant of the fact that more and more things are lies. Brutality becomes most possible when truth and reason are impossible.

            Is kind of close to what I meant, just go actually read 1984 and you'll get it unless you're moronic. Also, @100034276, what you did is by definition the opposite of simplification. I wrote my post in the simplest way I could think of, although maybe it was too noisy (inexact comparison) for the zoomerqueers in the crowd.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >please address be by my pronoun 🙂
            >NOOOOO YWNBAW I WILL NEVER ADDRESS YOU BY WHAT YOU ARENT REEE
            >(User was banned for this post)
            >WOAH! Literally 1984!
            Come on, it's literally the Black person meme from /b/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah if you let your tardmind, rotted by porn and mindless trolling, evaluate what I said. Read what I said again literally.

            Also,
            >please address be by my pronoun
            >please address my by first acknowledging the Lord Muhammed's righteousness
            >please address me by the term "mister Black person"
            >please address me by referring to me purely in the third person

            Why do these requests, nearly isomorphic in their literal meaning, elicit such different emotional responses? Meditate on it and the relationship between language and reality.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The first two imply that you are a muslim. The third one does not. Just because you address trannies with they them doesn't mean you can't say trannies are men OUTSIDE the project space or have your own opinion. It's literally same as addressing people as sir even if you think they are not acting like real "sirs" in old Britain

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Uhh, use of titles is indeed a way to (subtly) enforce hierarchies. We have a "president" and not a "prince" or "autocrat for a reason, although the effectiveness of the word "president" kind of stopped mattering decades ago. Go watch century of the self and learn about how advertisement works, right after you read 1984. Forcing people to use words with established meanings in the wrong way eventually will affect the way in which they think and behave, on top of being unpleasant and fostering an environment of self-censorship and shaming.

            And it's reasonable to expect someone yo react very negatively to an attempt to enforce unreality on them. That's the foundational psychological phenomena for both wars of religion and, I'd guess dysphoria itself. If it helps you empathize with non-trannies just think of our subjective experience of being coerced into validating what we perceive as unreality as a kind of dysphoria that you are directly responsible for. Just like your penis didn't do anything wrong but was removed for your mental health so too do we not want to have any part of your pronoun games, despite your innocence or the lack thereof.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >please play along with my mental illness
            >say 1+1=3
            no

            You are sperging out way to hard for this when it's literally on the internet and therefore doesn't matter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not sperging out, these discussions are fun for me. I wrote most of my posts while waiting on some sql queries to finish running. And unfortunately the internet matters more than most things these days. At least it does for now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Internet really doesn't matter, it is for insane people only

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Most young people socialize primarily via the internet iirc. It's a horrible thing but it's reality.

            >internet matters more than most things these days
            lmfao get off the Internet

            I mostly am, I just need a fully remote job again and then I'll be 99% free.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >internet matters more than most things these days
            lmfao get off the Internet

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you have poked the troony hornet's nest. You can recognize them by the party lines that they parrot incessantly.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >please play along with my mental illness
            >say 1+1=3
            no

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You have to be joking. There is no way you are serious lmao
          [...]

          I'll simplify what the schizo said.

          You are being coerced to engage in a lie and when you do so you become an accomplice amongst many that are also cognizant of the fact that more and more things are lies. Brutality becomes most possible when truth and reason are impossible.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >oh no, lies on the internet! Unprecedented, how will we recover!
            Go fight this shit outside, jesus christ. Not with people who are literally helping you cure cancer

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >please address be by my pronoun 🙂
            >NOOOOO YWNBAW I WILL NEVER ADDRESS YOU BY WHAT YOU ARENT REEE
            >(User was banned for this post)
            >WOAH! Literally 1984!
            Come on, it's literally the Black person meme from /b/

            you toil mindlessly for your linguistic colonial masters but shall you reap the reward ?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You say that, but I don't even think trannies are women, and I have never in my life chased a troony, called troony cute, said I want a troony gf or get an ounce of erection over a troony. Which is more than I can say for majority of this site, sadly. This love-hate relationship is fricking bizarre. Just pretend to respect them and laugh behind their backs like normal people do on literally every free software project

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We're not one person, and /lgbt/ loves trannies because that board consists for the most part of trannies. That's not a joke or exaggeration, they'll even admit it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I know majority when I see one. Ever been on /b/?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not all users of one board go to every other board you know. /b/ is also full of troons, coomers, and coomers who will soon be troons due to their overindulgence. It's also worthless to argue there since merely going to that board marks you as a degenerate.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >/b/ is also full of troons, coomers, and coomers who will soon be troons
            ironic saying that on IQfy

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No one on G is doing meaningful work, it's morons all the way down here. And for what its worth, I try to tell my fellow chudbuds to avoid harassing trannies that are doing something useful and not actively trying to seize power (social power and soft influence are still power) or molest children.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >isomorphic
          okay thats enough posting

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        typical leftard can only come up with strawmans. Why should we try to be good and play along when you are pure evil? leftists have negative ingroup preference. It's the only category of people that hate their own people more than strangers. It's unnatural, brainwashed behavior. Even conservative whites have less ingroup preference than black liberals.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Americans always say this, yet I have literally never seen China worshipping trannies. It's always American corporations. Every single time, a big corporation defending Israeli interests. Curious.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You completely misunderstood the point of that post

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        America is further left than China

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Delusional /misc/Black person

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Delusional /misc/Black person

          It's pointless to compare left and right in multiple countries as left and right are relative directions, and they are relative to what you see when you stand in the center of legislative chambers of a given country at a given time.
          Especially so for China, a one party autocracy that no left or right wing parties to speak of as a result of this.
          Left and right are NOT different flavors of meme fluid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Every CoC I've ever seen is only used as a weapon to enforce and mandate extreme progressive left agenda.
      THIS

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And the software just rots after this. Look at what happened with Gnome.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CoCs exist so troons can add them to open source repositories and then put "contributed to open source" on their resumes and use it to get a job at bigcorp to pay for their bottom surgery.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >imaginary box outrage
    >box is slightly smaller than every situation
    >permanent outrage
    and this is where I'm having a little trouble
    >outrage used to shrink box
    why or how is the outage going to shrink the box?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is fairy tale land. Anything can happen if you believe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I will explain, kiddo.
      >the box is smaller than every situation
      he means that in a situation without the box you wouldnt be restricted in your speech like you are with the box, this just says "the box are rules you have to follow and rules are restrictive", this is duh but the next sentence is actually pretty good
      >every time there is outrage the box shrinks
      this means that every time somebody breaks a rule and there is backlash the rules get more restrictive, the leftist usurper gets slightly stronger control over your life, he implies that this was all a planned infraction and response so that they could make wiener more restrictive, just like how the CIA will make a child shoot up a school to strengthen the collective hate for imageboard culture

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This site has rules, it makes sense that a project would enforce its own set of rules. It can attract all sorts of people.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >it makes sense that a project would enforce its own set of rules
      But what if those are the rules of hatchetwound fifth-columnists?

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The box is an allegory to his ass. His is too fat to take big wieners so he needs small ones.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >we live in a society
    >#weliveinasociety
    why is israelite segfault quoting an incel movie?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So basically just creeping authoritarianism.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Creepertarianism, you might call it.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    the box being the CoC.
    imagine needing some kind of "how to adult" guidebook on your programming repository

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >code of conducts
    ignored
    >terms of service
    declined
    >code licenses
    ignored
    sorry codecels, on my way to make profit off your free work. hope you enjoy not having any way to enforce these useless agreements while i rename your codebase and take donations for adding const

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      >/b/ is also full of troons, coomers, and coomers who will soon be troons
      ironic saying that on IQfy

      >IQfy has a coom and dicky culture but its still a blue board and 6.000.000% less degen than /b/

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    jannies are liars and hypocrits, codes of conduct exist to gas light you into giving up your rights and privilges to unelected and unaccountable buracrats who only care about themselves and their own bottom line. Frick them and frick you. If we lived in an ethnically homogenious society with relatively universal moral standards, this wouldnt be an issue.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Frick CoC I'm still using my master branch.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing this person said something he shouldn't have and is now seething

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter screencap thread

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    as a git repo owner I wish to have all issues, PRs and comments be pre-approved first. that way I can stop any potential troony falseflagging before it even exists.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer Variable AGreements Of Order or VAGOO to CoC.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are a well-adjusted and patrician heterosexual gent, mein bruder.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day Drew

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is no bigger mark for a midwit than one who uses fancy language to appear smart
    > well drew made an os programming language and Window manager you haven't done shit.
    Terry also did those things and would agree with me.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    there are different socially acceptable behaviors depending on culture. you write a coc to be more narrow than that to avoid gray areas that can be interpreted as acceptable to some and unacceptable to others.

    the green stuff is fine with friends or in public, but for a project online it's easiest to make the box smaller so decisions are more cut and dry. it should be obvious to anyone decent what is acceptable and what is not, if you can't follow the bare minimum then you're not worth dealing with as people already put up with a lot because it's a last resort to kick someone out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is the sane-person way of interpreting the post. However, what the leftist is actually saying is that the box is an outrage mob, preventing totally normal people like xir from making good decisions like having an extremist CoC.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the green stuff is fine with friends or in public
      420

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a software project shouldn't have to dictate the way people act or speak. if you think otherwise you're delusional. no amount of forcing people to think the way you want them to will make them change their minds. you can't ask people to accept you when you don't accept them in the first place, don't be surprised people don't like you or don't want to be around you when you disrespect them. yes, this goes both ways
      what's next, let the software or the CoC decide what your pronouns are and what your next hormone injection will contain?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i disagree. communication is fundamental to the long term success of any project.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and you can communicate without policing people's thoughts

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thought policing isn't an actual thing, it's a reference to 1984.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          forcing people to refer to you as xer attack helicopter is not a fundamental part of any software project

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Respect is integral to communication.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            forcing people to yield in awe of your axe wound is not integral to respect

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When someone lashes out, they are often feeling things inside that they are unable to deal with.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not my problem
            not relevant to this code repository
            [wontfix]
            deal with your personal issues in your personal time

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So is truth.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I agree.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >a software project shouldn't have to dictate the way people act or speak. if you think otherwise you're delusional.
        I've dealt with actual autists in projects that completely derail it by being buttholes to other people. Nothing to do with politics, you need something to point to when you ban someone from somewhere.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you don't, no. common sense should be more than enough for that. someone's being an butthole? ban them for being an butthole. you don't need to make it political for that to work. your personal issues shouldn't seep into your professional projects that may or may not involve a lot of people from different backgrounds and with wildly different beliefs
          if everyone learned to shut the frick up things would go a lot better

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If everyone had common sense, we wouldn't have CoCs

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh OK. Like wen vaxrys was banned without warning or reason. You just ban buttholes on sight.

            Got it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That must be why Vaxry was banned despite his "offense" being outside the purview of the software projects he worked on.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            When someone lashes out, they are often feeling things inside that they are unable to deal with.

            >If you didagree with me you need therapy

            Why are all liberals like this

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's a strawman; I didn't say that or imply it for that matter.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Because they're walking projection machines that are only happy when confusing and confounding others.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >you can't ask people to accept you when you don't accept them in the first place
        You don't need to be part of my project then.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      your schiozphrenic fragmented meandering writing style matches that of the OP perfectly. the moronic picture which shows nothing makes it even more funny. are you Drew? also, are you on taking mind altering substances or is your mind naturally like this?

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Amazing insight into the leftist persecution complex.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >leftist ... le bad!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, le bad. Get up against le wall.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Walls are ours. Go back to your toy helicopters

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No private property for you, lumpen

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Drew DeVault
    moron. Disregarded.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my CoC (my imaginary box) is thus
    >no conversation of any topic outside the software project

    if you bring up any other topic, BAN! Transgenders? BAN! Black folk? BAN! Trump? BAN! GNU? BAN! Drew DeVault? BAN!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >GNU? BAN!
      wut?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        like I said, no topic outside the project. That includes anything to do with GNU/GPL unless the project is licensed as such, and then only the license shall be discussed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      based and you'd still make all the nocoders here seethe

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be so transphobic, anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      CoC that bans talking about any person other than yourself in the first person, explaining how to reproduce an issue.
      Just automod any pronouns, period.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Codes of conduct are for spaces, not products. I can use Rust to create a doom clone where your enemies are trannies and your weapons are prescription medication and rope and there is no CoC that can stop me.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dumbest shit ive read in a while

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    CoCs are irrelevant in nearly every project. The actual rules of every project are:
    >if the people in charge like you, you get to stay (if there's a CoC: they will find a way to spin your behavior as not violating the CoC)
    >if the people in charge don't like you, you get banned (if there's a CoC: they will find a way to spin your behavior as violating the CoC)
    Literally just ignore them and use your brain instead

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Man says the point of CoC is to cause freakouts so that they can use it as justification to 'shrink the box' and make the CoC stricter.
    > Pretty much says outright that none of this CoC shit is done in good faith, it's all to basically troll up conflict as a justification for more authoritarian bullshit.
    > IQfy is so incapable of abstract thought and reasoning that they cannot comprehend that he's saying shit that they actually agree with.
    I knew this board was moronic but I didn't realize that you were all this stupid lmao.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >> Man says the point of CoC is to cause freakouts so that they can use it as justification to 'shrink the box' and make the CoC stricter.
      I read it as
      >Drew's opponents "designed the box" (whatever that means) to be too small
      >because the box is small, even reasonable actions (like banning people for unrelated off-site activity) fall outside it, giving Drew's opponents an excuse to freak out
      >the purpose of the freakout is to keep the box small, or ideally shrink it, to further restrict Drew's actions
      Though now that I'm reading it again, I'm not sure the analogy makes much sense

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If that's what he means then he's fricking terrible at analogies because I read the exact opposite. He even called the box the 'limits of socially acceptable expression' and if it's shrinking, that means that what you're allowed to do is decreasing over time in response to outrage.
        Full disclosure I have no clue who this guy is lol.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Full disclosure I have no clue who this guy is lol.
          Well, congratulations (unironically). That's probably for the best

          I'm vaguely aware of some recent drama about some Wayland compositor people getting banned from somewhere for being too edgy, and IIRC Drew came down on the pro-banning side. So in the OP I assumed the action being unjustly restricted was "banning bad people", or specifically
          >citing behaviors external to a community in making a conduct-related decision

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He is literally saying the opposite of that. The chuds are in control of the imaginary box.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He is right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol, he doesnt have that much self awareness.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Drew is the poster child of "everything I don't like is run by Nazis". Hacker news, lobste.rs, the FSF, the shitty calculator forums he used get banned from. All are Nazis in Drew's egotistical mind.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In response to this I started listening to neo Nazis and I've realized they actually have a few good points.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the issue is that people normally just call these “rules”.
    Whenever “rules” are called “code of conduct” it typically means:
    >The “left” [read: far right by any other country's standards] side of U.S.A. idpol wrote this
    And it typically tries to drag you along into weird terminally online idpol wars about issues happening across an ocean you don't care about.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Drew's attempting to point out that outrage is always used to shrink the box.

      There is never unprogress.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think people are simply outraged at the word “Code of Conduct” alone because they associate it with a certain political ideology and that correlation is true more often than not.

        People'd be less outraged if the exact same rules were simply called “rules”.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think it takes a small mind to associate one word or set of words with something bad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but people who get outraged typically have a small mind.
            The issue with outrage is that it makes dumb people more visible. The entire problem with all this terminally online stuff.

            Real life has one thing going for it: it doesn't make dumb people seem more numerous than they are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Outrage makes the box smaller.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I saw several posts ITT getting hung up on the mention of CoC, or left/right paradigms.

    It's disappointing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lefting going on about how the purpose of CoC is to restrict freedom of expression at the whim of the leftist outrage mob
      >"wow i can't believe you guys are talking about leftists and CoC"

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's the paradox of tolerance. You make the box as small as possible. You tolerate everything that can't be intolerant of.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that you can't*

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Words are sounds we assign meaning to.

    You could just as easily name your offspring "Code of conduct" and it would be something you love a lot.

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If drew says the sky is blue i will believe it to be red, hes so moronic when not talking about computers that i dont believe the phrase "a broken clock is right twice a day" applies to him

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Not naming your offspring Seven

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not Seven of Nine

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    See? Imageboard.

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    no
    prescriptive conduct is innately unfit to handle the necessary flexibility of spontaneous human cooperation
    by creating rules
    youre creating social infrastructure for necessary judgement and execution of punishment which are behaviorally hamstrung and compelled to abide by directives of a now internal legislative body in control of "the rules"

    there shouldnt be any rules
    "not being an butthole" is not a rule
    and if somebody's an butthole its at the discretion of whoever has the banhammer

    there is only an objective, which is to make something useful
    and behavior which either helps or hinders that

    its not a democracy
    its a fricking pirate crew, and the captain the absolute ruler, unless you wanna mutiny

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "no rules" sounds a lot like a rule to me
      try again

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        digital might make digital right

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What's it called when someone doesn't care about inward and outward alignment of their principles?

          Is that corruption?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            whatever you call it, it isnt relevant to making better software

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure it is.

            Just because something exists or takes place online doesn't mean it's somehow apart from the laws of the universe.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Am I talking to bot?
            Who said it isn't party to "the laws of the universe"

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_faith

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How can one make good software when ones inward beliefs don't match ones outward behavior?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            software isn't a reflection of moral behavior
            its a utility, whose value is reflected in the quality with which it serves utility

            an evil man can make a good stone hammer
            a good man can make a good stone hammer

            the hammer is not a reflection of social moral values

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Software is only useful if it is free, and obeys the four essential freedoms as outlined by Richard Matthew Stallman.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_faith

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Where is your complaint?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            youre making insincere statements rather than addressing or forming an argument

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What use has an evil man for a good hammer?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Waiting

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rules are necessary.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To wit, not being an butthole is a rule (written or unwritten) if being an butthole gets one banned.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There is not only the objective, there is also at least the "banhammer", and the wielder of, as you elucidated yourself.

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I mean sure, make a CoC that states that if you want, that's a lot better than 300 paragraphs detailing every and all thoughts you're allowed to have or not to have
    idk, a CoC should have the bare minimum in my opinion, shit like "respect each other", "keep politics and religion discussions out of this", stuff like that. but a lot of CoCs go well beyond that, and you know it

    If everyone had common sense, we wouldn't have CoCs

    then just make it to the point and relevant to the project. disallow anything controversial and just keep it a professional environment. look up the Arch CoC if you want an example, it's pretty well done imo

    Oh OK. Like wen vaxrys was banned without warning or reason. You just ban buttholes on sight.

    Got it.

    That must be why Vaxry was banned despite his "offense" being outside the purview of the software projects he worked on.

    I don't really agree with Vaxry's views but I also believe he was banned unfairly. if he had behaved that way within the bounds of Freedesktop, then it would have been justified. his Discord server was unrelated to his "work" there

    [...]
    >If you didagree with me you need therapy

    Why are all liberals like this

    8344 here, I'm not liberal, I also didn't say that kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So you went from no Coc to "actually yeah CoC is good" lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't say "CoC is good", I said "if you need to have a CoC then make it about common sense, not about forcing your beliefs onto people who just want to do software work"
        there's some big projects that exist without a CoC and they're doing just fine

        I stated that many posts ago. Make the box as small as possible. Tolerate everything that isn't intolerable.

        nothing is intolerable. there's just a place and time for everything. what you can say within your circle of friends is different than what you can say within your professional environment. again that's common sense
        what you say to your friends in private or on your own server that's comprised or people with the same beliefs as you shouldn't be an issue as long as you don't bring your beliefs at work or try to push them down others' throats

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Some things are intolerable.

          For example I would not tolerate being murdered and neither should you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't think we're on the same length here anon. obviously I wouldn't tolerate being murdered, but we're talking about speech here. I've never seen a CoC say "don't murder people" before
            also as degenerate as it is, I'm sure some people would tolerate and fetishize being murdered. for them it would be acceptable
            see

            my CoC (my imaginary box) is thus
            >no conversation of any topic outside the software project

            if you bring up any other topic, BAN! Transgenders? BAN! Black folk? BAN! Trump? BAN! GNU? BAN! Drew DeVault? BAN!

            , I'm not that anon but he has the right idea, maybe I'm just too ESL to convey it properly lmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say anything about speech. The box must be as small as possible. You must tolerate everything that isn't intolerable.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            we're running in circles here anon
            as long as those "intolerable" things happen outside of the project, then the project shouldn't have any authority on it. plain and simple

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            moron post.
            Murder isn't something covered by a fricking CoC, that's a law matter. Orders of magnitude more severe than laughing at someone for cutting xir dick off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I stated that many posts ago. Make the box as small as possible. Tolerate everything that isn't intolerable.

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    buy an add drew, also nobody cares about your redis fork.

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Codes of Conduct
    I have just always forked every project that has Codes of Conduct that I disagree with, added features to my fork and then if someone wants to work with me they don't have CoC, I can just permaban them out if they start to talk about politics. I have even created aur package to auto fork, compile and install Linux without Codes of Conduct. It doesn't make any real difference but I do it just for the principle.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Have you considered Anti-Centrism?

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I DONT GIVE A FRICK WHAT THIS moronic israelite THINK
    HES LITERALLY FRIENDS WITH PEDOS AND PROBABLY A PEDO HIMSELF

    SAGE HIDE

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why do these projects even need a CoC? Just tell people to stay on topic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Especially when all you need to do is to tell people to stay civil and shut the frick up if you don't have anything productive to add.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    IQfy works great without a CoC. If every site was like IQfy, the world would be a better place.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    eceleb cancer twitter post

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