They changed the book to make noth DFW and David Lipskey bigger buttholes. They intentionally made their relationship more antagonistic and made DFW seem like a pyschotic control freak. Decent movie and the majority of the dialogue is straight out of the book but for whatever reason theu wanted more "drama" at the end of the movie which honestly weakened it a lot. The book is mainly DFW complaining that nobody actually read IJ which is pretty accurate I'm sure for 1996.
The structural problem and iirc DFW says this in the book and sort of says it in the movie in a different way is that people told him they either loved the tennis academy stuff OR the alcoholics anonymous stuff but not really both and so far in my IJ reading experience although the two are of course connected they DO infact feel like two completely different stories and the way DFW wrote it he pretty obviously did write two different stories and then crammed them together which tbh doesn't really work. The tennis academy stuff is also objectively better than the alcoholics anonymous stuff
>pretty obviously did write two different stories and then crammed them together which tbh doesn't really work.
They are intimately tied together by theme and structure in a way far too complex to be two separate stories crammed together, Don't be a plotgay.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The repetiveness of the sections and the way theyre structured make it evident which were written first and which added later
8 months ago
Anonymous
When you finish it start a thread and I will school you if you still have such silly ideas.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I suggest you look into the signifier/signified dichotomy. I had more typed out but I palmed the trackpad when I clicked post, maybe I’ll write more later.
I liked AA stuff, but out of Enfield I mostly only liked Hal and Mario. Maybe I'm just a brainlet, but I cannot bring myself to care about so many people. There's only so many tragic backstories before I get tired of it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The backstories are all the same and really he is writing about our shared tragic backstory, what has led us as a society to where we are now. Each characters backstory provides a bit more context and nuance to the larger picture.
I suggest you look into the signifier/signified dichotomy. I had more typed out but I palmed the trackpad when I clicked post, maybe I’ll write more later.
lol. I do that a fair amount especially when drinking but I generally do follow up and I certainly follow up if someone shows interest.
Cheers, OP.
They changed the book to make noth DFW and David Lipskey bigger buttholes. They intentionally made their relationship more antagonistic and made DFW seem like a pyschotic control freak. Decent movie and the majority of the dialogue is straight out of the book but for whatever reason theu wanted more "drama" at the end of the movie which honestly weakened it a lot. The book is mainly DFW complaining that nobody actually read IJ which is pretty accurate I'm sure for 1996.
Who the frick is gonna sit through page long sentences and endless annotations?
The structural problem and iirc DFW says this in the book and sort of says it in the movie in a different way is that people told him they either loved the tennis academy stuff OR the alcoholics anonymous stuff but not really both and so far in my IJ reading experience although the two are of course connected they DO infact feel like two completely different stories and the way DFW wrote it he pretty obviously did write two different stories and then crammed them together which tbh doesn't really work. The tennis academy stuff is also objectively better than the alcoholics anonymous stuff
>pretty obviously did write two different stories and then crammed them together which tbh doesn't really work.
They are intimately tied together by theme and structure in a way far too complex to be two separate stories crammed together, Don't be a plotgay.
The repetiveness of the sections and the way theyre structured make it evident which were written first and which added later
When you finish it start a thread and I will school you if you still have such silly ideas.
I suggest you look into the signifier/signified dichotomy. I had more typed out but I palmed the trackpad when I clicked post, maybe I’ll write more later.
I liked AA stuff, but out of Enfield I mostly only liked Hal and Mario. Maybe I'm just a brainlet, but I cannot bring myself to care about so many people. There's only so many tragic backstories before I get tired of it.
The backstories are all the same and really he is writing about our shared tragic backstory, what has led us as a society to where we are now. Each characters backstory provides a bit more context and nuance to the larger picture.
lol. I do that a fair amount especially when drinking but I generally do follow up and I certainly follow up if someone shows interest.
Weird, I enjoyed both
Accurate, as someone who lives next to Lobsterfest.
They both are huge buttholes.
He should have wrote a better book
Wrong board
based off his interviews, DFW seems more like the awkward type than the slob type that we see in the movie
Odd casting decision to have David foster wallace be played by Sam Hyde
Should I start with infinte jest or something else by him though?
You could always start with the short stories.
I started with Infinite Jest and that’s what got me hooked on him. You’d be in for a long haul, though.
I was considering the lobster... How is that one as a entry?
Haven’t read it but A Supposedly Fun Thing was good like that other dude said.
Start with Good Old Neon. This is the best short story I have ever read.
Ignore these idiots. Start with this
https://harpers.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/HarpersMagazine-1996-01-0007859.pdf
Okay I will go with that one. Thanks anon
i'm going through it on audiobook, started like last week.
My favorite scene is the end where Lipskey is trying to document DFW's room, the alanis morissette photo, cigarette stains, picture of Updike.
please tell me this book slows down or something, global iq has increased to critical levels
What
But its a movie?
I don't remember anything from this film expect brian eno classic at the end