I wish the PDA never died, but I don't see any way they would have survived with the advent of the smartphone
I wish the PDA never died, but I don't see any way they would have survived with the advent of the smartphone
I wish the PDA never died, but I don't see any way they would have survived with the advent of the smartphone
I just don't understand how tapping on glass as default ever became a thing. You can't even pocket or blind type like you could with T9, it's just a horrible interface all around
They invented voice to text just so that gays like you could text and drive. No t9 needed.
Galaxy note doesn't have this problem.
i have a note but that pda shit just hit different frfr
>hit different
yeah it was slower and shittier numale
please have a nice day
After you 😉
voice to text is absolute dogshit
that doesn't solve the issue at all, it's still just tapping on glass but now it takes up even more space to do muh OCR
It's because it's such a simple input method even fricking chimpanzees know how to use soiphones
Every dogshit npc out there has internet access now, that's why it became mostly shit after the early 2010s
Wait can you not blind type on a smartphone? It’s pretty easy
Right, because a PDA with custom OS and firmware and a limited set of apps was so much better....
You nostalgiagays are fricking moronic. The moment the first app store-based phones came out that third party developers could easily jump into and write programs and apps for, the PDA was dead.
Also, the resistive touch pen makes you look like a dork.
> Right, because a PDA with custom OS and firmware and a limited set of apps was so much better....
They ran either Symbian or Windows Mobile. Which was basically the same situation we have now. Symbian as it were had better features and support at the time, even though it's started to die out.
Nokia basically killed everything good that could happen past PDA era, and it cost us about two years in feature development and Linux based phones, ultimately.
Right, both of which were proprietary, shit Operating systems maintained with an iron grip by their companies. They were also poorly developed and scarcely maintained. Today at least we enjoy regular updates to the OS on the phones, even if for a few years.
Even Apple realized the only way they were getting buy in was to open the walled garden up. Windows never really managed that, and they jumped in too late because Ballmer was a moron.
Nokia would have benefitted more from just using android even in earlier stages of development, their strengths seem to be more on hardware, though their recent failures in the smartphone market to stay relevant have relegated them to the backburner for the most part, at least in consumer mindsets.
One trick pony gimmicks are not the same. You can still use a stylus on capacative touch screens. The resistive touch garbage on older PDAs was awful. I can't say if it would have benefitted much though, but that is a moot point.
Honestly, I would have rather just seen wrist mounted computers and computerized visors, but that's because I'm a cyberpunk degenerate. All the smartphones have degenerated into candybar formats. I don't know how Marquees Brownlee even makes money. He could literally template most of his videos and come out even, if he planned it right. If we are going to stick with candybar, at least make them durable, at least make them rugged, at least give the user options for SD card. the Kyocera Duraforce is fricking kino.
>at least make them durable
That is what phone cases are for, and it's better than a rugged phone because you can replace the case when it's been too ruffed up
Implying I don't have that on top of it? What kind of fricking response is this? Why are you like this?
Why would you wear 2 condoms
> Right, both of which were proprietary, shit Operating systems maintained with an iron grip by their companies. They were also poorly developed and scarcely maintained. Today at least we enjoy regular updates to the OS on the phones, even if for a few years.
Nokia literally released Symbian into open source, it was about as well maintained as Android is today.
Nokia literally had the best OS with the best software support up untill about 2011, when Android actually started to pick up steam. The problem wasn't in Symbian or Maemo themselves, the problem was that Nokia tried to support three OSes at once. Which was a result of one of the biggest cases of corporate terrorism of the 21st century.
I actually had an N900, it is to date the best phone I've ever owned, especially when you compare it to what was out at the time.
>I'm a degenerate
tl;dr
>Windows Mobile
Pocket PC is not Windows Mobile and required that the programs be compiled for your device's processor. It was a shitshow.
I would destroy your WPM using Graffiti.
Allow me to introduce myself.
Swype style input is hands down the fastest. But when it comes to stylus based input, Graffiti's simplified glyphs are much faster than transcribed handwriting.
my s22 ultra can straight read cursive sentences anon
the future is now
>cursive
It's not going to beat one line per character, each entered on top of the last. That was part of the advantage, you never had to move your hand or take a look back to see if the last word was understood by the OS. It was instant even on a pathetic Motorola Dragonball processor because of the reduced complexity. The downside being you needed to learn a new way to draw some letters and numbers.
Speaking of palm os, there was some pretty interesting stuff
For example this tamagotchi app. It acted basically like a real tamagotchi, including the random beeping
only good thing about PDAs were the displays, honestly wish I had a smartphone with that type of display.
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>T and 7 are exactly the same
>O an 0 are exactly the same with Q cutting it damn close
oh God
Graffiti was split into character part and numerical part, you can see it here:
I'd say it was as good of an input method as you could have back then, as tapping keyboard with stylus on resistive keyboard was taking quite a bit of an effort. Seriously, you'd be surprised how comfy Graffiti was.
you wish form factor and stylus pen never died - that's what you really meant. you want a device you can use with one hand, you want a device with replaceable batteries that last for weeks, you want a device with buttons, you want a device with a UI designed for men (not children), you want a device that can run actual productivity software, you want a device that doesn't send all your personal information to the CIA/mossad/kgb/chicoms/nike/mcdonalds 24/7. what you don't want is a device with a 200mhz processor and 256mb of memory. if you're not specific, people (morons) are going to call you a luddite and post 20 paragraph sermons about how much they love corn syrup and eating bugs because thats the modern way and new is better caveman. please be specific
wouldn't need a touch pen if the screens weren't capacitive, you could just use a thumbnail instead. i own a resistive touch device, and it's simply easier to use - with or without the stylus. i STRONGLY suspect if we'd invented resistive touch screens after capacitive, we'd be using them instead and screaming down anyone promoting capactive technology because new = better racist incel
The great thing about PDAs was that they werent locked down in any way
Windows mobile did have an app store btw
>Windows
>custom OS
can anyone call moron Busters coz we got moron on his moronation spree in thread
How is WIndows CE custom?
Smartphones with styluses still exist like the galaxy note range and the galaxy ultra range.
expensive, also doesnt have the same feel. if you want a device with the good feel, a 3ds was the last major thing with that type of screen
i mean, PDA is literally a smartphone with no GSM module. Hell, at some point ones with GSM were still called PDA, effectively making them smartphones.
PDAs never died, everyone has one now.
For me, it was the Tandy Zoomer.
>Tandy
literally who
Zoom zoom
ironically there is "zoomer" printed right on the device
Pda run swf , ipod emulator , some dev apps ,run java , some use the old versions actually
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some use win mobile 6.5 as calculator
iXBT Labs - Audiovox RTM-8000 GSM/GPRS module
win mobile = win phone = win ce
rasp pi use win ce version called Windows 10 IoT Core
pda is still in use pic below
ok ai gen
i wonder how you could ever reach the mental state to write posts like tbis
gues in your world born between shit parents it's not difficult at all stupid farmer frick your sheep and get a life soon shit-hole
the samsung note was just the evolution of the pda. boomers will disagree though because "muh physical buttons" and "the pen aint what it used to be"
reminder that a full version of Age of empires 1 runs on basically any windows mobile device
I kinda like the idea of a handheld gadget not connected to the internet.
It's called airplane mode get with the times gramps
>he believes Airplane mode cuts ALL signals
kek ngfmi
anons i am one of the world's best players at a mobile only battle royale game (first soldier) on a s22 ultra
trust me the pda is not dead it lives on.
i think thats the appeal of the pda
just something dedicated to work only, no other fancy smart features
like frick even nowadays workplace barcode scanners run android and therefore can do all sorts of such nonsense instead of just one (or in the pda case, several) purpose
>I kinda like the idea of a handheld gadget not connected to the internet.
brother, there is a solution
my s22 ultra is doing great
>perfect mixture of utility and speed and compactness in your path
im glad resistive screens died but the abandonment of keyboards in favor of huge surface area tablet phones is a crime
you can still get a keyboard if you really want one
doesn't look half bad as a phone either
but the battery isn't exactly great
my dad used to work on wince, he's got drawers filled with all these old pdas
do the batteries on these old PDAs fail and then you cannot power them on?
They usually work fine without batteries. Not booking because lack of battery is phone bullshit.
the backup battery had a tray or a cover so you could replace it, but like
said I'm pretty sure the one he gave me to play with ran fine on just ac
You dont need the backup battery either if you just want to boot it and dont care about the memory contents
Black folk
>I wish the PDA never died
It didn't.
I have dell v51
What can I possibly do with this device in 2022?
You probably mean x51v. You can run a bunch of obscure old vidya ports that take advantage of its 3d accelerator, like call of duty (can't remember if this one used it, but it had cool touchscreen-based aiming where gun aims anywhere on the screen, kinda like in medal of honor on psx), tony hawk, there was this one crappy car game that looked beyond amazing back then, there was also a quake 3 port for it that ran crazy smooth. Or you can run 3d accelerator powervr demos, or you can run win95 in qemu, i guess.
I don't think any of that sounds impressive in 2022.
The smartphone did everything a PDA did, and better.
t. Actually used a Blackberry unlike you.
Why are public displays of affection so villified? It's not that bad and we live in a society where it is almost common to see it in movies shows and even at work.
>I wish the PDA never died
Why? a smartphone blows the frick out of anything the PDA ever hoped to be.
Unless you're just looking for any sort of justification to use old/obsolete tech so you can come off as unique.
PDAs sucked. The software stacks and default apps before iOS were fricking awful.
Android (and then google in buying them) and Apple saw that and they saw that resistive touchscreens and keyboard+ball/directional pad were dead.
Google planned two Android devices: one that would resemble a Blackberry at the time, called the "sooner" (sooner to market), and one that had a slide out keyboard but could be navigated entirely by capacitive touch screen, called the Dream.
Steve Jobs announced the iPhone in Jan 2007 and Google realized the Sooner was not a viable product. So all effort went into expediting the Dream to market, which happened as the T-Mobile G1 in October 2008.
Ballmer didn't turn around Windows mobile fast enough and relegated it to irrelevance. Palm OS and Symbian's codebase was too old to catch up and they too were banished to irrelevance.
Now at this point there's zero reason for a standalone PDA. It is more convenient to have the cellular modem integrated into the device and carry one device. The modern smartphone IS a PDA.
yeah but pdas didn't have the creepy modern dystopic vibe of carrying a nsa tracking device in your pocket at all times that could be listening in on any conversation. not that i'm up to anything but you know, it just feels creepy that i haven't had a truly private conversation in years because everyone has a fricking smartphone in their pocket. but you being a dumbfrick oblivious normie you've likely not felt even the slightest bit creeped out by this. maybe i want a place to write down my private thoughts that isn't a piece of paper im going to lose anyways or an app on a phone uploading it all through a data center in utah to be processed by algorithms looking for wrongthink. honestly frick shartphones, they were a mistake.
Then buy an iPod Touch? You act like buying an iOS/Android device without a cellular modem is impossible.
Call everyone "dumbfrick oblivious normies" but the average person of value to society values the convenience of a cell phone more than concerns over tracking. If you want to balance the two and don't trust the three letter agencies are listening, turn it off and get a passively shielded box/bag to block the cell phone signals. The Japanese love them because there's a different message if you can't reach the caller for "this person turned their cell phone off" versus " the cell phone is not in a service area right now".
the ipod touch can still connect to the internet and if you think the nsa respects airplane mode lol.
>just turn it off
you can't, it's always on even if you think its off
>just put it in a box
i can't use it in a box
you're just proving you're a dumbfrick oblivious normie when i have to explain this shit to you. it's fine, i wish i was as ignorant as you, you must be so happy with your smartphone
get help with your autism anon, open source OSes exist for smartphones and faraday cages exist.
dude the phone can still track you, installing an open source os doesn't mean shit. and you can't use your phone if its in a metal box. get help with being fricking moronic. the phones track us and there's nothing we can do about it. period.
You can call me whatever you want, but the cold hard truth is no market, or no market worth caring about, demands the device you want so desparately. Your choices are to use ancient outdated tech, to use the tech with the limitations you describe (that even the iPod touch has a wifi modem and you don't trust them),or not use it at all.
Alternatively, try to start a company or Kickstarter/Indiegogo to make the device you want. You'll quickly find out how expensive developing, manufacturing, and supporting such a device is, and that maybe one out of every one million people worldwide want the device you describe. Even with 7 billion people on the planet that's still only 7,000 people to divide all those costs among. The device will cost too much which will kill the market.
>call me a moron but morons outnumber you so we win
cool
Why do you think conversations are about winning? This isn't a rap battle, or a contest, or a tournament. It's talk.
I came back here for the first time in many months to have conversation. Now I remember why I left. Everyone's just here to fling shit and name call at each other instead of having actual discussion.
>complains about shit flinging and name calling while calling me autistic and trying to talk down to me
be the change you want to see on the board
When did I call you autistic? I never said that, at all.
sorry, i had you confused for some other dumbfrick oblivious normie, my bad.
i'll second that with there's nothing wrong with a having a wifi phone. I used to think it was silly but having a device that can cover my online life vs my real life has been a life hack for me and my ADHD
smartphones are just a modern panopticon, complete with deep underlying and damaging effects on the psychology of the entire species. but whatever honk honk lets talk about how cool it is that the iphone comes in purple now.
This, plus the fact that they just stink of "toy". With their severely limited potential compared to the power of the hardware , it makes it painfully obvious that they set the rules about what is right and what is wrong, and not the owner. PDAs might've suffered some of the same problems smartphones do, but there was at least some respect put into them, considering businessmen and the like were primary buyers.
>burger detected
never buy a phone from the carrier and just buy a pixel. They're unlockable and most of them can literally run arch if you want. A lot of that respect comes back when you stop buying carrier devices
why should the smartphone manufacturers respect us when we clearly don't even respect ourselves as evidenced by the fact that we still buy their demeaning products so they can watch us at all times.
just get a stylus and a used google pixel with no service boom there's your PDA moron
the PDA literally didn't die. the form factor changed
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first of all one question.
Does your ass ever get jealous of the shit that comes out of your mouth to push your stinky fingers write this shit?
> I wonder how stupid you are for being so limited that you can't see that I'm shortening my sentences, you stupid, limited old brain, fricking shit compensated moron useless piece of crap , even a chair is more useful than your fricking whole existence, pathetic scum dumb gayg put your limited state of mind into the cavity of your mother and die in it
It's impossible to underestimate the stupidity of your failing brain
Your brain has the equivalent intellect of a death cow.
in fact , You're not useless. You can be used as a bad example. i wonder not why your name is not in the dictionary under moron or hopeless fool
Everyone who thought you were useful in life was wrong.
If you were half as smart as you thought you were, you'd be twice as dumb as you are.
I hope your day is as pleasant as you've made mine.
I envy everyone you have never met.
and i don't know why life has failed so much to let you exist on earth stupid fricking hopless lunatic gayg.
and most important
Did you know, you are wasting us oxygen can you please ask a space agency to eject you from earth so quick as possible. thanks in advance!!
i don't understand , do you speak english because your grammar has many shortcomings.
btw, good,
there is something rude in approach.
i think you want say something.
but nice try ninny clown and my felicitations for your effort.