I work for a publisher and most of our submissions are AI generated. We spend most of our time trying to detect AI writing. Its slowly become most of everything we receive.
It is just sad really.
I work for a publisher and most of our submissions are AI generated.
An AI is perfectly capable of writing affirmations for homosexual mulattos. Expect another submission in the morning.
Why do you care if it's AI? I get how a sudden influx of submissions would be a pain, but trying to detect it is just even more pointless effort
>Why do you care if it's AI?
Legal stuff (on the publishers end), mainly.
Still seems pointless to me. The absolute worst outcome is the submission is 100% generated, in which case it's public domain but only if the author is stupid enough to admit that. No AI is currently capable of writing a full novel, though, and any editing renders it as a normal piece of literature.
>No AI is currently capable of writing a full novel
Thats where you are wrong. There are ways.
I've yet to see AI produce anything even on the level of like a harlequin romance novel
??? What legal issue would there be?
No one is going to disclose inner company legal procedures.
You can't copyright AI-produced shit.
Post the legal decision holding this
Each company makes risk/reward decisions of their own, regardless.
Nice copeout, moron.
See
>You can't copyright AI-produced shit.
Is not inner company legal procedures, moron. Again, you’re a moron who should simply suck start a shotgun. Post the legal case holding
>You can't copyright AI-produced shit.
Since you can’t, you’re a moron
You are talking to two different people. You realize this is not reddit, right? There are no usernames and you cannot just assume all anons are one person. Your idiotic behavior isnt worth responding to.
s-sorry dad.
>deflecting because you’re a moron whose bullshit statement got called out
Cry more, moron
"In the Office’s view, it is well-established that copyright can protect only material that is
the product of human creativity. Most fundamentally, the term “author,” which is used
in both the Constitution and the Copyright Act, excludes non-humans. The Office’s
registration policies and regulations reflect statutory and judicial guidance on this issue."
You could of just google'd this
>then immediately cites a case dealing with literature itself that contravenes their specious reading of case law surrounding photography
> The Ninth Circuit has held that a book containing words "authored by non-human spiritual beings" can only qualify for copyright protection if there is "human selection and arrangement of the revelations."
Sad
I am.. trying.. to tell you that each company will make its own decisions on what risks to take, regardless of the laws written in their respective areas. Some will avoid risks that they believe may arise in the future as well. The point I am trying to make is that discussing the current laws is useless, as legal departments generally operate under a future tense basis for most cases anyway. I have no need to convince you of anything, I only aim to keep the thread somewhat free of irrelevant discussion.
https://www.copyright.gov/ai/
> The Copyright Office has launched an initiative to examine the copyright law and policy issues raised by artificial intelligence (AI) technology, including the scope of copyright in works generated using AI tools and the use of copyrighted materials in AI training
Here let me copypaste it again since you are so illiterate
"In the Office’s view, it is well-established that copyright can protect only material that is
the product of human creativity. Most fundamentally, the term “author,” which is used
in both the Constitution and the Copyright Act, excludes non-humans. The Office’s
registration policies and regulations reflect statutory and judicial guidance on this issue."
Look up Zarya of the Dawn. The policy is already in place. You're coping extremely hard.
At best exceptions will be made for works that are created in majority by the author -- with Zarya of the Dawn, the author's own text was still allowed by the Office, whereas the AI's contribution was rejected.
You'll get a grey area where work touched up by AI is copyrightable but you'll still have to have made the huge majority of the original work yourself.
For now, the idea of algorithmically generated content being copyrightable is inherently moronic -- come back if AGI is real and creating as an author. Until then, monoliths like Disney can lobby far better than you can, and they aren't going to want you to be able to copyright something trained on Mickey Mouse to """create""" its own mascots, for instance.
Tried to explain this a few weeks back to some moron thinking he is making his 'own book' with ChatGPT. He isn't.
>Tried to explain this a few weeks back to some moron thinking he is making his 'own book' with ChatGPT. He isn't.
Implying that copyright law dictates ownership on any level deeper than the purely utilitarian
If you out the prompt in youre the author, simple as. It’s like saying word processors with autosuggest destroy copyrightability. Dumb shit.
*put the prompt in
They've never specified exactly how much "creativity" is required, just the presence of the hand of man.
Sure, that's why when you commission an artist to create a work based on your exact specifications, you become the artist and get the copyright, moron.
If you wrote the prompt you wrote the prompt and that's all you are the author of. Imagination is not what defines authorship, creation is. The act of making is what matters.
This board has already been fricked up enough by identity politics brainrot, do I really have to read braindead techbro shit too now?
Did you just describe a work for hire copyright? Yes the commissar carries the copyright. Dumb frick.
authorship is not copyright
I thought the AI spammers were gone…
This...
OP, all you have to do is to stop caring and stop talking about it. I'm not telling you not to do that work. Of course you have to detect what's real and what's fake, and of course you have to punish people who cheat. But you also need to think that automatic softwares have existed for more than a decade, and it was never a problem for anyone until evil mass media started to talk about it. It's pure magic, the more you mention automatic softwares, the more people will be utterly braindead and they will use them. You can break the spell by pretending that this shit doesn't exist.
If you’re a publisher who inadvertently publishes AI-schlock, you have never published anything worth reading
I tried writing with ChatGPT and it's terrible. Just absolute boring garbage. There's hardly any creativity or soul. AI has no idea what delivers catharsis.
If we're talking about the passable schlock your average unimaginative normie skims before bed, it doesn't need to mean anything or reach an actual resolution. It just needs the kind of basic structure any AI can plan out.
When it's finished they'll go "yeah, that was ok - reading is good for me" then be totally unable to say anything meaningful about what they just consumed
AI stuff's not even passable though.
Not even what previous anon about carthasis and sovl and shit. I mean like the pacing is totally fricked, pov is fricked, setting is fricked, dialogue is completely directionless. It's just really unreadable, and not just in IQfy way.
>and sometimes bad in entirely new ways.
Yeah this is what I mean. All of the AI fiction I've read is unreadable in ways that we don't really even have words for.
Midwit take, the last sentence was the best one.
😉
I do copywriting. Not the same thing but related.
Everyone was screaming how AI will replace me blah blah, I had new clients trying to negotiate my rates down cause blah blah chat gpt can do it for free instead. Fine, homosexual, use Chat GPT, it's not like I depend on your money to eat lol
Fast forward to today, about half of my new clients are morons who tried to cheap out either with pajeets or with ChatGPT, realised it's trash and have a deadline they can't miss, which lets me squeeze double rates out of them for short deadlines.
I fricking love chatgpt for that lmao
>I fricking love chatgpt for that lmao
Yeah but you have to copyedit. It's like being the anal gape specialist.
I don't use chatgpt, I meant I love it for making midwits think they can use it to cut costs. It results in them coming to cry to me about it and me charging them more than I would have otherwise
Stop acting like most people dont like anal stuff...
and everyone clapped
cope
Yes, I am, dilate
>copywriter
>thinks he’s better than pajeets
Kek
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>I tried writing with chatgpt and there's hardly any creativity or soul
sounds like average human writing to me
If yoo yoos GPT4 and tell it tah mimic an author's stile then it will. Also, apologeez but I wanted to see a totallee phonetic English in terms of how it affected my thots and see if they floed more eezily.
It doesn’t need to have soul—it just needs to have as much soul as… you know.
Sounds like my short stories
The payed GPT is much better at writing and also think about how bland the average novel is in 21st century America.
>There's hardly any creativity or soul. AI has no idea what delivers catharsis.
So you can't tell any difference from modern writers, got it.
>AI can already imitate 90% of what’s published
This is what people like you are really saying when you start whining about le soul. AI needing to replace the best humans is some weirdo mental gymnastics rule you came up with. It just needs to be mediocre to gut entire industries. Most human creations are absolute garbage.
> There's hardly any creativity or soul. AI has no idea what delivers catharsis.
>Cracks open copy of Infinite Jest
Are you saying infinite jest is soulless? I thought DWF was our guy? He tried to have soul at least. Doesn't that count as soul in a way?
OP's job title is turing tester
Good. I hope AI puts you out of business.
Even more reasons to not read contemporary.
Here's a solve.
Only except handwritten submissions. If some idiot can be bothered to rerecord by hand ChatGPT's drivel then I'd count it as human, also it would stymie the influx of submissions.
It's an obvious solve ham stringed by the fact most modern writers use word processors and won't change, so frick them.
Would you accept a typewritten manuscript? Could be faked with a bit of effort but as far as I know it was pretty common until only a couple of decades ago - it'd at least be an extra hurdle to weed out a few of the lazier grifters
>Would you accept a typewritten manuscript?
No. Problem solved, close either the thread or the magazine.
>use chatgpt
>hire indian orphan to transcribe
Well that was easy
So, you're telling me an industry that purposefully suppressed my demographic because its kabalist, homosexual, milquetoast satanic, witchcraft to children idolizing, and corrupt profiteering overlords wanted to highlight marginalized voices over quality thought and truth so that they could continue to genuflect to the dark lord of their heart are having a hard time recognizing a real human being from a fake one? I am shocked.
take your meds
Can you send me the latest article to download from the worded industry? I would be so blessed and greatest to see what the newest slurry of anti-huamn swill the NPR, New York pig fest, and big bad words of the globalist wastebin come up with. I am so mindful, plant-based, and into the yogic ecstasy of the global cosmopolitan capitalist indulgence machine of condomed sex that you wouldn't believe. Publishers can die the death they deserve.
You need serious psychiatric help dude
>You need serious psychiatric help dude
Being upset at mass immorality and its attendant followers is not indicative of a mental break. Sanity is moral wretchedness in this era and therapy is just the institutionalization of this anormality to placate the masses - said otherwise, therapy is opium for the masses.
anon likes to use big words to feel smart, sadly, he is still an schizoid homosexual
Bro it's just israelites, calm down
Bro it's just an upper class that enables 1.5 billion global abortions, human mental disabilities through vaccines, destruction of families via divorce, moral norms via constant subversion, and the death of any form of middle class via inflation. Just relax bro.
>In February, we attracted a considerable amount of media attention over the impact of ChatGPT and other Large Language Models (LLMs) on our submissions process. In short, for the first time in over a decade we closed story submissions for something other than a server or software update. What happened? We were receiving a large number of submissions generated by ChatGPT. We received fifty of them the morning we closed and over five hundred in under twenty days that month. (For comparative purposes, we had received seven hundred human-written submissions in the same time period.) Generated submissions were increasing daily and on-course to equal or outnumber human-written works by the end of the month. That workload was simply unsustainable.
>I posted a short announcement about the closure via social media. It quickly went viral and the press started tracking me down. For the next week, I was interviewed by a steady stream of reporters. Over a month later, I’m still fielding calls and emails. We had become the proverbial canary in a coalmine for those concerned about how this technology could disrupt the workplace. The irony of “AI” impacting a science fiction magazine only added to the appeal. If you told me that one day I’d be on NPR and BBC Radio talking about Clarkesworld, I would have laughed at you. So far, there have been pieces in the New York Times, Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, Wired, Financial Times, New Scientist, Fox, NBC, with extensive foreign press coverage as well.
>The response to the coverage has been largely sympathetic and the extra attention drew out some helpful advice from experts working in tangential fields like credit card fraud prevention, network security, and detection tools. A few people were upset that we were rejecting the “AI” works out of hand, but that simply made it clear that they hadn’t read or listened to any of the things we said. The generated works were among the worst submissions we’ve ever received and sometimes bad in entirely new ways.
You deserve it for all the shlock you publish.
doesn’t this mean if I submit something, just because it has been written by a human, that it’ll have a higher chance of being read and considered?
unless they mistake you for a bot or don't have time to give your submission a good read, due to all the bots.
>We spend most of our time trying to detect AI writing
how hard is it?
The detection models and generative models play an eternal cat and mouse game, thus far.
Red queen. They are training eachother
Boo hoo. This is the future you chose. Who taught you that you are entitled to whine about things which you chose of your own volition?
So many morons ITT who are impressed by GPT-slop. Sad
This. Imagine being impressed by fricking bots. Jesus Christ, I was in middle school in 2008 when le "artificial scary alien" could chat with people on MSN. People are fricking moronic.
>middle school
>2008
Get the frick out of here you zoomer shit
Anon, someone in middle school in 2008 is at minimum 28 years old.
What's your problem, zoomers? The average IQfy age is 29.
>We spend most of our time trying to detect AI writing
Why not spend your time trying to detect good writing?
I am sending my manuscript to a freelance editor soon. I am going to make sure from the sample edit and draft I get back that it doesnt raise any AI flags. I do not wanna get filtered by this bullshit.
I think you may be over-detecting stuff that isn't actually AI generated
What are the odds some randomgay can send a draft and get published? What are some ways to increase the odds of getting published?
>inb4 MFA
>inb4 being a minority
>What are the odds some randomgay can send a draft and get published?
I would urge you to try it yourself and find out. This is the best and only way to answer that question.
If you don't present it professionally and if there are any kind of errors at all, your chances are slim. But a lot of people also get rejected because they aren't the right fit for the agent or publisher.
If it appears professionally edited and proofread, with the right query letters and to editors/agents that actually want what you are looking for. If there is any indication that you are working on another novel, and especially if you have published writing of any other kind such as short stories in a magazine or completion of writing workshops, they will believe you actually want a career in writing and aren't just some literalwho who would be better off self-publishing. Yes that is a lot to ask for but consider that a publisher prefers contracts, not one-book authors.
This is mostly bad information.
Just submit your writing and if it is good it will published.
ngmi
>if it is good it will published.
That just sounds too easy to be true.
This is a good response, thanks anon.
It was actually a midwit response.
^ the lowerwit response was most accurate.
Never be a midwit, its just extra work.
>just write good anon hur dur
wow, thank you for your penetrating insight.
Its the only insight you need in wondering how to get published.
I hope you can manage to do it. (Write good)
i hope this is a larp
Did you really think it would not come to this? Did you think people WOULDNT consult the 1000IQ robot to write their books for them?
There is some thing I've come to believe, recently.
Fighting itself is the point.
Victory, overcoming, winning, that's just the cherry on top. It's not the point. Fighting is.
You have this whole big book, this movie, video game, life, you got this story and for one scene,
just one,
there is revelry as the source of misery falters and is extinguished.
Then you get a moment after the fact where everyone stands around and reflects on shit.
But the whole rest of the story is about how hopeless shit was. How unsolvable it was. All the effort and sacrifice, the energy expelled to reach that moment where the ring goes into the magma.
And we really believe that if the demon got the ring back instead, that more or less, it would have invalidated all that was done against it.
As if to say, if ruthless ambition was all that was necessary to win, then being better than a monster isn't worthy of effort.
That Will doesn't mean a damn thing against Power because Might makes Right, and that's all the emperor had to demonstrate.
But victory does not determine merit.
The absolute gaul, the foolhardiness, the ambition, the pursuit of, the trying and the idiocy and the trial of it all,
Getting the frick up and passionately dedicating yourself to the hail mary in taking a shot at just disrupting some nihilistic force seeking to manifest it's entropy on the world,
That is where true merit lies.
Fighting is the point.
So keep getting up.
You should ask the AI to write for you, that was unbearable.
But then I'd have nothing to look back at and say that "This came from me." or "I imbued myself into something nobody else would've tried to say or convey."
And I thought OP was tired of soulless shit, any way.
>But then I'd have nothing to look back at and say that "This came from me."
Dont tell me you save your IQfy posts in some flipbook or some shit
Not that anon but I do save my best posts in a folder on my OneDrive
That said, I've had people tell me at least twice that they screenshotted my posts because they were so good
>I've had people tell me at least twice that they screenshotted my posts because they were so good
I also saw screenshots of my posts reposted
It's kind of like getting published tbqh
Your mistake was thinking anyone wanted to read that, or that it was in anyway worth sharing.
People give up and accept that nothing will ever change and it isn't worth trying.
Because there's no way they could win.
But they also can't live like that.
Then they end up going out and killing xx amount of people before putting one in their own head.
Because they can't live like that.
But it wasn't like anything was ever gonna change, right?
OP isn't facing something that's so much of an existential threat to him that he's gonna do that, it's a job and it's guaranteed by every nonsense thing coming at him, but everything is telling him "Why fricking bother?"
Just about everything I see on this site and from so many other sources tells me the same thing.
But I can't stand cynicism.
Even if I'll always lose to it.
But it doesn't matter if nothing ever changes.
Doesn't matter how well I fight back with every optimistic word I can throw out there into the void.
Because fighting itself is the damned point.
Your writing reads like a visual novel. You can practically hear the "beep!" sound effect as you press enter each time to get to the next line of text.
- A.A. Lewis
What type of work do you receive? Cus i doubt that AI can generate anything more complex than short children's books as of right now
AI is probably an improvement over the Sarah J Maas tier of literature tbh
GPT can write an entire novel. Its like making a person, first you make the skeleton, then the muscles, skin etc.
I have seen quite a bit of good AI art.
I have yet to see anything written by AI that isn’t pure garbage.
What is concerning is that most people are so illiterate that they can’t tell the difference.
Youll never know the good stuff is AI
Then post something good written by AI.
It reads like an ESL every single time.
>Then post something good written by AI.
You want me to do work for free?
Try having it write "in the style" of a writer you're familiar with to see what you get.
The art you've seen is by likely by people who are tweaking their prompts and the settings.
The text you've seen is likely by people you gave a stupid question and got a stupid response.
Any idiot can copy-paste from ChatGPT talking to them as though they were children.
You can even use some of the DAN or jailbreak prompts if you really want a language model to write like a normal person instead of a sanitized business product.
Who gave*