I’d be Christian except all clues point to Catholicism being the true church and I don’t want to be Catholic
Id be Christian except all clues point to Catholicism being the true church and I dont want to be Catholic
I’d be Christian except all clues point to Catholicism being the true church and I don’t want to be Catholic
Just pretend Vatican II made them heretics or some shit, that's what most crypto-Prots do already.
What clues?
All that matters is whether you think the papacy is true. Exegetically the papacy is laughable and papal historicity is laughable too.
The fact that in the early Christian era, groups lacking a bishop with apostolic succession were labeled as heretical by the mainstream Christian community descended from the apostles’ appointments
They have an infinitely better claim than the modern papist church to apostolic succession since they were literally a generation removed from the apostles. There were people that were taught by the apostles that were still alive. That isn’t the case now. They can’t claim to have apostolic teaching based on succession hundreds of years removed from the apostles and their direct successors like Polycarp.
> There were people that were taught by the apostles that were still alive. That isn’t the case now
What difference does it make how many generations removed? Is there some number where the concept breaks down?
homie have you ever played the game of telephone as a child? It doesn’t make their claim credible. Apostalic teaching is all that matters and that is found in the Bible alone. They aren’t the only one to claim apostalic succession too. The Ethiopian church would be just a creditable as the Romans.
Ethiopia and RC have been out of communion for over 1500 years and yet their practices are remarkably close.
> homie have you ever played the game of telephone as a child? It doesn’t make their claim credible
So give a number
>So give a number
Irrelevant.
You’re the one claiming there is a number…
No I’m not. The whole standard is unreliable and doesn’t point to any one church. If you want apostolic teaching, look to the Bible.
> The whole standard is unreliable
Do you want me to start quoting church history?
> and doesn’t point to any one church
It literally does
>Do you want me to start quoting church history?
What do you think that will prove?
>It literally does
It doesn’t. You’re just subjectively assenting to Rome’s claim of it. There’s the orthodox, Ethiopian, oriental, other eastern churches, some prot churches claim it as well. It doesn’t point to one church.
> There’s the orthodox, Ethiopian, oriental, other eastern churches, some prot churches claim it as well. It doesn’t point to one church
They were all connected early on. Deciding which apostolic see one wishes to follow is a matter of judgment, but only Rome/Peter can claim to be a global church, the rest are “true particular churches”. And, Canterbury is not an apostolic see.
I’m glad you concede apostolic succession doesn’t point to any one church since you says it’s up to personal judgement.
>but only Rome/Peter can claim to be a global church, the rest are “true particular churches”. And, Canterbury is not an apostolic see.
A lot of churches that claim apostolic succession are global. There are Anglican churches across the world, orthodox churches across the globe. I don’t recall this being a standard for apostolic succession that they have to be global.
Ok. And?
> I’m glad you concede apostolic succession doesn’t point to any one church since you says it’s up to personal judgement
Divisions in the Christian community don’t negate the existence of such a community.
> A lot of churches that claim apostolic succession are global. There are Anglican churches across the world, orthodox churches across the globe
Lol
> don’t recall this being a standard for apostolic succession that they have to be global
The Nicene creed. If the church is one, then it’s not particular to any one country, people, ethnicity, or geography.
> Ok. And?
Cognitive dissonance
> What do you think that will prove?
The “catholic” tradition you probably claim to be a part of owes its existence to the apostolic system.
Orthodox?
The Pope kissed the feet of a black man and proved to the Kingdom he is blind. Tread carefully.
And what is wrong with kissing the feet of a black man anon?
If you don't see the kingdom of heaven then you wouldn't understand.
The obvious thing to do is to put away your fear and ask God to heal you of your faithlessness. Better a Catholic in heaven, then, well, you can guess the rest.
Christianity is the religion of Aryans.
https://odysee.com/@Anonymous:ab1/05---The-Not-so-Chosen-People-Part-5---The-Aryans:b
https://odysee.com/@Anonymous:ab1/03---The-Not-so-Chosen-People-Part-3---The-Greeks:5
Why would you be a Christian?
Be a sede but realize there is no ordinary jurisdiction of bishops or priests over territories at least in function at this time and no power to excommunicate people or bind them to anything as of now.
Everyone in the New Testament speaks Greek. The New Testament was written in Greek. So why aren't you a member of the Greek religion? The people and organizational structure who have been continuously using the same Greek scriptures and church system father-to-son for 2000 years? Instead of Jim Bob's Baptist Church founded in 1990? Your using our scriptures and our language bro.