So pampered his entire life that he needs to create his own problems
so you want to know what a fictional character's mental illness which would be impossible to define anyways, because you relate to him and presumably want to know what your illness is too?
he is a completely worthless character to attach yourself to if you're any older than 15. which is how old i was when i had to read 300 pages of a teenager whining about pointless shit.
>lmao, did you even read the book
Upper middle class israelite whines endlessly about how everyone is "phony", then gets "almost raped" like a woke feminist. Then ends with "I wish I could touch kids as the "catcher in the rye"
So moving, amirite?
Autism + melancholic personality + liberal teen angst (would troon out today). Has the typical young liberal mentality of "everyone old is wrong", and an attitude of "I miss childhood" of an overly coddled bourgeois upbringing.
Basically card carrying upper-middle class leftist teen.
>lmao, did you even read the book
Upper middle class israelite whines endlessly about how everyone is "phony", then gets "almost raped" like a woke feminist. Then ends with "I wish I could touch kids as the "catcher in the rye"
So moving, amirite?
Well, they're bored and if you really think about it, what's the fun thing in New York? Working, coffee, jazz, no way of hiking up the euphoria because everything felt perfect and this is bad because they know one day we'll all die and our legacy, our achievements, are not with us in the grave. What's left is up there with the people who are still living and if you're religious all these wasn't half-bad and you aim to live a life full of kindness because of what a religion promised. But, in a world that's secular, gosh, this must have hurt so bad, you'll feel betrayed by nature that you throw tantrums and no amount of coffee, jazz and work accomplishments could ever satisfy you.
Allowed to continuously fail in school with no real setback. Just gets send into another elite institution which single-handedly secures him a comfy desk job.
Double income family owns a NYC apartment and have their own maid. If this isn't pampering then idk what is. If you adjust for inflation, Holden's younger sister
spends hundreds of dollars on Christmas presents as a 9 year old child. Caulfields are living it up.
I hate the little sõyfaced homosexual so much its impossible. He was a literally me when I hit the uni 10 yrs ago.
Water under the bridge. The little b***h was put in a loony farm. Serves him right. He's happy now. Might as well be dead.
so you want to know what a fictional character's mental illness which would be impossible to define anyways, because you relate to him and presumably want to know what your illness is too?
he is a completely worthless character to attach yourself to if you're any older than 15. which is how old i was when i had to read 300 pages of a teenager whining about pointless shit.
This he's literally just young and obnoxious, it's not a mental illness that's just what young people are like. Holden will stop being a little tool when he grows up and is humbled by life and so will you.
Holden is literally Salinger (he says this in Rise High the Roof Beams) and the old schizo spent the next fifty years after making it with this novel changing religions every three days and holing up away from society until he was half senile and felt like being part of the town he moved into.
Pretty neurotic
Which is common for young people and the "angst" commonly associated with young people like Holden. But it's neurotic selfish self loathing behavior
Both causes of neurotic behavior and young angst have been attributed to the same thing : "depression"
Autism + melancholic personality + liberal teen angst (would troon out today). Has the typical young liberal mentality of "everyone old is wrong", and an attitude of "I miss childhood" of an overly coddled bourgeois upbringing.
Basically card carrying upper-middle class leftist teen.
He is just a b***h. I mean they consider everything else to be a form of moronation so I guess he is some kind of tard too. He is definitely gay, couldn't even frick a hooker. The redditors are slowly winning me over with the he rapes his sister meme, he should just go to prison, he would be really popular there.
Redditors. Really? I can't imagine a life where you log in into a hobby board and orchestrate a "witty" reply to get 1K up votes and feel good afterwards. I understood YouTubers, TikTokers wanting to get likes because it could get them fame and money, but on Reddit, seems to be odd because why? If someone is being honest with their feelings an thoughts doesn't mean they're morons or b***hes.
It's a book about angst, feeling like you're not sure where you belong in life. The youngest generations now don't understand the concept of not having the answer to that question. It's okay to not know, to be unsure of yourself, to be unreconcileable. That doesn't make you mentally ill; Holden didn't like the world or anything it had to offer other than his sister and his dead brother. It wasn't something he could ignore like his obtuse classmates, aloof adults, or clueless teachers. It's just something to face and a decision to come to yourself. Try Franny and Zooey or some of the other stories about the Glass family. They're good.
Ha. Motherfricker thought Holden was mentally ill because he didn't fit in. We're raising a generation of b***h ass Black folk.
>It's okay to not know, to be unsure of yourself, to be unreconcileable.
I'll like to differ because you have to know otherwise you're going to waste much of your life doing the wrong thing, you just have to find the answers, and it's such a fortunate thing if you meet wise people in your life and able to learn from them. Living with adults that are failures are quite hellish itself. That's why books like Matilda, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, The Catcher in The Rye are considered literature because the writers understand how the world works, albeit they agree with it or not, they really showed us the odd workings of the world that baffles me to almost no end.
Raping your sister, Phoebe, is a criminal act not a mental illness. Holden is psychiatrically incarcerated because his criminal activity is "unseemly" to his family. If he'd just gone on a drunken bender he'd be in a military boarding school.
PTSD. Depression is the side-effect. He's always in this state of hopelessness which is a pretty common symptom for depression. It's basically your body signalling you that you haven't resolved that trauma yet. So, your body releasing these chemicals which signals you every single day to prevent you from ever falling into the thing that gave you PTSD. Your brain is playing mind games with you in which you must win but your victory have to be grounded on reality, you must actually start solving your problems in real life and not just in your head. In other words, you just be strong, I'm not sure how but don't give up on trying to give the best result on whatever endeavors you encounter. Dress well, eat well, exercise well. You may fall down because of your struggles (we're humans after all) but try.
The thing with Holden is that he didn't even try in the book, just sort of being passed around, tbf, he is looking for meaning in a world that showed no meaning to him. He found meaning when his brother passed away. He didn't know how to cope with his brother's death (instead he deal with the sadness by punching windows) and it didn't help that his parents aren't around most of the time and he was forced to study at Pencey Prep which to him was nothing but annoying roommates and teachers that, didn't help him or is much dumber than he is. Also, he's 16 in the book which is adolescent, who needed care and guidance from smart people which is hardly present in the book. He's in his own world with his own logic, as an adolescent - untainted and pure. The only adult he mentioned that he liked is his older brother who seems to make a living by his own means which he admired.
Holden is based because he's honest with himself regardless how reckless he seems. In the end, my take is that no matter what problems you have, you must have an effective coping mechanism with it, because like it or not, death happens, bad thing happens and our natural reaction can be unpredictable and may hurt ourselves instead of healing us. So yeah, reading do help, just read the right thing and again to choose the right reading required a fundamental philosophy that varies from one person to another.
I think angst itself is sort of an unresolved conflict, if it's normal all teen would have teen angst. Try having kids, you'll wonder what you do wrong seeing your kids staring angrily out of the car window
molested
Autism
I haven't even read the book, but every IQfy poster suffers from autism
Holden's only mental illness is having a soul in a soulless society
BPD
bpd
Sentimental homosexual Personality Disorder
kkkkk
Trump derangement syndrome like all New York libtard homosexuals
seething poorgays
homosexualry
Suggested treatment: kys
So pampered his entire life that he needs to create his own problems
>pampered
lmao, did you even read the book
>lmao, did you even read the book
Upper middle class israelite whines endlessly about how everyone is "phony", then gets "almost raped" like a woke feminist. Then ends with "I wish I could touch kids as the "catcher in the rye"
So moving, amirite?
>Jew
>named Holden fricking Caulfield
Back to your containment board
Well, they're bored and if you really think about it, what's the fun thing in New York? Working, coffee, jazz, no way of hiking up the euphoria because everything felt perfect and this is bad because they know one day we'll all die and our legacy, our achievements, are not with us in the grave. What's left is up there with the people who are still living and if you're religious all these wasn't half-bad and you aim to live a life full of kindness because of what a religion promised. But, in a world that's secular, gosh, this must have hurt so bad, you'll feel betrayed by nature that you throw tantrums and no amount of coffee, jazz and work accomplishments could ever satisfy you.
Allowed to continuously fail in school with no real setback. Just gets send into another elite institution which single-handedly secures him a comfy desk job.
Double income family owns a NYC apartment and have their own maid. If this isn't pampering then idk what is. If you adjust for inflation, Holden's younger sister
spends hundreds of dollars on Christmas presents as a 9 year old child. Caulfields are living it up.
I hate the little sõyfaced homosexual so much its impossible. He was a literally me when I hit the uni 10 yrs ago.
Water under the bridge. The little b***h was put in a loony farm. Serves him right. He's happy now. Might as well be dead.
Schizophrenia and incestous pedophilia.
I fricking hate Holden Caulfield and I hate wojaks even more, fricking moronic Black person Reddit meme. Come back when you've finished high-school.
>futurama
Captcha: S4SYAD
SOSAY D?
>and I hate wojaks even more
tell me how i already know you've only been lurking on IQfy for a decade or less
so you want to know what a fictional character's mental illness which would be impossible to define anyways, because you relate to him and presumably want to know what your illness is too?
he is a completely worthless character to attach yourself to if you're any older than 15. which is how old i was when i had to read 300 pages of a teenager whining about pointless shit.
Being a teenager/young adult
This he's literally just young and obnoxious, it's not a mental illness that's just what young people are like. Holden will stop being a little tool when he grows up and is humbled by life and so will you.
Holden is literally Salinger (he says this in Rise High the Roof Beams) and the old schizo spent the next fifty years after making it with this novel changing religions every three days and holing up away from society until he was half senile and felt like being part of the town he moved into.
getting molested will do that to you
Pretty neurotic
Which is common for young people and the "angst" commonly associated with young people like Holden. But it's neurotic selfish self loathing behavior
Both causes of neurotic behavior and young angst have been attributed to the same thing : "depression"
I'll send you a invoice
Autism + melancholic personality + liberal teen angst (would troon out today). Has the typical young liberal mentality of "everyone old is wrong", and an attitude of "I miss childhood" of an overly coddled bourgeois upbringing.
Basically card carrying upper-middle class leftist teen.
The whole book is him dealing with PTSD and melancholia
I don't know why you aren't banned.
Puberty.
He is just a b***h. I mean they consider everything else to be a form of moronation so I guess he is some kind of tard too. He is definitely gay, couldn't even frick a hooker. The redditors are slowly winning me over with the he rapes his sister meme, he should just go to prison, he would be really popular there.
Redditors. Really? I can't imagine a life where you log in into a hobby board and orchestrate a "witty" reply to get 1K up votes and feel good afterwards. I understood YouTubers, TikTokers wanting to get likes because it could get them fame and money, but on Reddit, seems to be odd because why? If someone is being honest with their feelings an thoughts doesn't mean they're morons or b***hes.
It's a book about angst, feeling like you're not sure where you belong in life. The youngest generations now don't understand the concept of not having the answer to that question. It's okay to not know, to be unsure of yourself, to be unreconcileable. That doesn't make you mentally ill; Holden didn't like the world or anything it had to offer other than his sister and his dead brother. It wasn't something he could ignore like his obtuse classmates, aloof adults, or clueless teachers. It's just something to face and a decision to come to yourself. Try Franny and Zooey or some of the other stories about the Glass family. They're good.
Ha. Motherfricker thought Holden was mentally ill because he didn't fit in. We're raising a generation of b***h ass Black folk.
>It's okay to not know, to be unsure of yourself, to be unreconcileable.
I'll like to differ because you have to know otherwise you're going to waste much of your life doing the wrong thing, you just have to find the answers, and it's such a fortunate thing if you meet wise people in your life and able to learn from them. Living with adults that are failures are quite hellish itself. That's why books like Matilda, Charlie and The Chocolate Factory, The Catcher in The Rye are considered literature because the writers understand how the world works, albeit they agree with it or not, they really showed us the odd workings of the world that baffles me to almost no end.
Raping your sister, Phoebe, is a criminal act not a mental illness. Holden is psychiatrically incarcerated because his criminal activity is "unseemly" to his family. If he'd just gone on a drunken bender he'd be in a military boarding school.
PTSD. Depression is the side-effect. He's always in this state of hopelessness which is a pretty common symptom for depression. It's basically your body signalling you that you haven't resolved that trauma yet. So, your body releasing these chemicals which signals you every single day to prevent you from ever falling into the thing that gave you PTSD. Your brain is playing mind games with you in which you must win but your victory have to be grounded on reality, you must actually start solving your problems in real life and not just in your head. In other words, you just be strong, I'm not sure how but don't give up on trying to give the best result on whatever endeavors you encounter. Dress well, eat well, exercise well. You may fall down because of your struggles (we're humans after all) but try.
The thing with Holden is that he didn't even try in the book, just sort of being passed around, tbf, he is looking for meaning in a world that showed no meaning to him. He found meaning when his brother passed away. He didn't know how to cope with his brother's death (instead he deal with the sadness by punching windows) and it didn't help that his parents aren't around most of the time and he was forced to study at Pencey Prep which to him was nothing but annoying roommates and teachers that, didn't help him or is much dumber than he is. Also, he's 16 in the book which is adolescent, who needed care and guidance from smart people which is hardly present in the book. He's in his own world with his own logic, as an adolescent - untainted and pure. The only adult he mentioned that he liked is his older brother who seems to make a living by his own means which he admired.
Holden is based because he's honest with himself regardless how reckless he seems. In the end, my take is that no matter what problems you have, you must have an effective coping mechanism with it, because like it or not, death happens, bad thing happens and our natural reaction can be unpredictable and may hurt ourselves instead of healing us. So yeah, reading do help, just read the right thing and again to choose the right reading required a fundamental philosophy that varies from one person to another.
>his brother le died
he never had a brother
>he was mentally ill and sent to a sanitorium
nothing to support this, he was just a normal angsty teen. stop trying to claim its a "mental illness"
I think angst itself is sort of an unresolved conflict, if it's normal all teen would have teen angst. Try having kids, you'll wonder what you do wrong seeing your kids staring angrily out of the car window
>nothing to support this, he was just a normal angsty teen. stop trying to claim its a "mental illness"
Read the Last chapter you illiterate frick
The last chapter isn't canon
Its in the first chapter if you look closely, "I've told it a hundred times but I guess I'll tell it again from the beginning..."
He’s an unreliable narrator, bro
Nice one punchy, We both know you're a c**t, but you're eisegetically creating hypertexts.