Because back then they believed in bullshit like reincarnation. If you have a nice day you get turned into some bug. But now that it's been proven that souls don't exist, there is no excuse for Buddhists and other Pessimists to anhero themselves.
There are religions, whose doctrines would suffer more if souls were non-existent (like Christianity and Islam). However, it's very telling that these kinds of religious people IMMEDIATELY point at suicide if nihilism was true, as if God and souls were the only reason why they haven't commited suicide themselves. I have never seen New Atheists / Nihilists / Naturalists who are that obsessed with suicide.
has not been proven soils don't exist and Buddhists dont believe in a soul anyway so their doctrine of rebirth never relied on souls existing
Depends on the type of Buddhism. From the perspective Madhyamaka, Zen, and overall Mahayana, Buddhists don't deny a soul, they deny that it isn't dependently originated. For all practical purposes, Sunyata is the same as Brahman in Advaita Vedanta, and Anatman is the affirmation that Atman is dependently originated from Sunyata.
And neither is Sunyata "nothing" but rather it is "essencelessness" which differ from a Sabdava or "substance."
Basically, Buddhists are not saying nihilism is the way to go, but rather proposing that the flux of being does not allow being to exist (becoming, A = not A), not unlike anything Heraclitus would affirm.
Why do seething Abrahamics and Tamil Hindus always make the exact same posts with the same wojack, parroting the same lines? Weird, almost like they hate Buddhism because they don't understand it.
>truth is determined by how unpopular something is
if that were the case then holocaust denial and creationism would both be correct. buddhism might not be the worst religion but it has nothing to offer and is obsolete in the modern world.
The seethe continues. Both Holocaust denial and creationism are correct though. Buddhism has been, and always will be, the end of all spiritual seeking of humanity. Its the highest, most refined, and the greatest of them all. No amount of Godism or atman-obsession can change this.
reincarnation duh. >have a nice day >it's bad karma >spend another 1,000,000 years in hell >born as insect in next life
If you wanna fo nirvana speedrun then I recommend you be super hero who do everything good but since every human isn't perfect (except buddha probably) then we are still stuck in this cycle of suffering.
Actually, Hell and its various cosmic vaults, doesn't lead to rebirth in the animal worlds, but the human worlds. This is because Hell is where evil karma is burned away, destroyed and extinguished, thus shortening the amount of suffering that it would have taken to extinguish it in the other worlds.
Based on my observations, there have been 2 types of nihilism threads on IQfy lately:
Type 1 frames Buddhists as the ethnic / religious "other" to contrast it with the West without treating Buddhist beliefs with any kind of in-depth knowledge or honest interest, and implies that life is inherently good and joyful (which is not true). OP also took the 19th century idea of Buddhists as nihilists at face value, which lead to fanciful claims like "The Japanese are immoral because in Buddhism there are no heavens and hells" in the 20th century. Those assumptions have loong been disproven.
Type 2 frames life in the West as uniquely nihilist due to consumerism and free market capitalism (which is also not true) and sees it as the leading ideology to overcome.
Both types come from a Christian angle . This approach agrees with Type 1 because God supposedly gives meaning, while also fully agreeing with Type 2.
With that in mind, I think OP is probably a Christian who hates Western decadence, but he feels superior to Buddhists, because God clearly forbids suicide, while Buddhism supposedly doesn't. Of course, OP is wrong, because suicide is an impure act associated with bad karma that will land people in one of the hell realms, if done with impure thoughts.
>With that in mind, I think OP is probably a Christian
I'm fairly sure its the same guy making all these threads too, since the OP image is always the same kind of "buddhist seething wojack"
Life isn’t bad, it’s desire and attachment that’s bad.
>life isn't bad, living is bad!
I am sure this will avert the Buddhists from their beliefs
Good thing that their beliefs have little impact on the real world. This nihilistic homosexualry has no place in a prosperous civilization.
they are not nihilist
>all desire is bad
sounds pretty nihilistic tbh
this same problem occurred to early christians which is why they had to introduce the 'suicides go to hell' clause
you make no gains
Oh boy, another high-quality basedjack thread spammed by this same OP who clearly knows a lot about Buddhism.
You forgot your > so you look like that and say that.
Because back then they believed in bullshit like reincarnation. If you have a nice day you get turned into some bug. But now that it's been proven that souls don't exist, there is no excuse for Buddhists and other Pessimists to anhero themselves.
>But now that it's been proven that souls don't exist
has not been proven soils don't exist and Buddhists dont believe in a soul anyway so their doctrine of rebirth never relied on souls existing
There are religions, whose doctrines would suffer more if souls were non-existent (like Christianity and Islam). However, it's very telling that these kinds of religious people IMMEDIATELY point at suicide if nihilism was true, as if God and souls were the only reason why they haven't commited suicide themselves. I have never seen New Atheists / Nihilists / Naturalists who are that obsessed with suicide.
Depends on the type of Buddhism. From the perspective Madhyamaka, Zen, and overall Mahayana, Buddhists don't deny a soul, they deny that it isn't dependently originated. For all practical purposes, Sunyata is the same as Brahman in Advaita Vedanta, and Anatman is the affirmation that Atman is dependently originated from Sunyata.
And neither is Sunyata "nothing" but rather it is "essencelessness" which differ from a Sabdava or "substance."
Basically, Buddhists are not saying nihilism is the way to go, but rather proposing that the flux of being does not allow being to exist (becoming, A = not A), not unlike anything Heraclitus would affirm.
if they wanted to kill themselves and actually do it then it means they're giving in to their ego. congrats for your reincarnation as insects
If going to the gym builds muscle mass but is hard to do, why don't you just not go to the gym?
Because of muh Blacks.
lol why is this guy still angry about buddhism
Why do seething Abrahamics and Tamil Hindus always make the exact same posts with the same wojack, parroting the same lines? Weird, almost like they hate Buddhism because they don't understand it.
Buddhism is not Aryan, not white, and never was.
I don't know if you're OP or not, but the amount of seething generated against simple Buddhism maybe makes one think that its the correct path
>truth is determined by how unpopular something is
if that were the case then holocaust denial and creationism would both be correct. buddhism might not be the worst religion but it has nothing to offer and is obsolete in the modern world.
The seethe continues. Both Holocaust denial and creationism are correct though. Buddhism has been, and always will be, the end of all spiritual seeking of humanity. Its the highest, most refined, and the greatest of them all. No amount of Godism or atman-obsession can change this.
You WILL read this and seethe more.
And what does Christianity have to offer?
reincarnation duh.
>have a nice day
>it's bad karma
>spend another 1,000,000 years in hell
>born as insect in next life
If you wanna fo nirvana speedrun then I recommend you be super hero who do everything good but since every human isn't perfect (except buddha probably) then we are still stuck in this cycle of suffering.
Actually, Hell and its various cosmic vaults, doesn't lead to rebirth in the animal worlds, but the human worlds. This is because Hell is where evil karma is burned away, destroyed and extinguished, thus shortening the amount of suffering that it would have taken to extinguish it in the other worlds.
Based on my observations, there have been 2 types of nihilism threads on IQfy lately:
Type 1 frames Buddhists as the ethnic / religious "other" to contrast it with the West without treating Buddhist beliefs with any kind of in-depth knowledge or honest interest, and implies that life is inherently good and joyful (which is not true). OP also took the 19th century idea of Buddhists as nihilists at face value, which lead to fanciful claims like "The Japanese are immoral because in Buddhism there are no heavens and hells" in the 20th century. Those assumptions have loong been disproven.
Type 2 frames life in the West as uniquely nihilist due to consumerism and free market capitalism (which is also not true) and sees it as the leading ideology to overcome.
Both types come from a Christian angle . This approach agrees with Type 1 because God supposedly gives meaning, while also fully agreeing with Type 2.
With that in mind, I think OP is probably a Christian who hates Western decadence, but he feels superior to Buddhists, because God clearly forbids suicide, while Buddhism supposedly doesn't. Of course, OP is wrong, because suicide is an impure act associated with bad karma that will land people in one of the hell realms, if done with impure thoughts.
>With that in mind, I think OP is probably a Christian
I'm fairly sure its the same guy making all these threads too, since the OP image is always the same kind of "buddhist seething wojack"
you can only achieve nirvana if you're free from craving and aversionm killing yourself is a form of aversion to oneself
Not a buddhist, but I think according to them:
You don't just reach nirvana when you die, you have to get enlightened first, or something.
Buddhism is a corruption of Islam. Gautama was a prophet of Allah.
This is a caricature of Theravada. I don't see this in Mahayana or Vaijrayana.
I fricking hate jannies