If Protestantism is true then how come fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects?
I’m pretty sure this alone accounts for half of all to Catholicism and Orthodoxy
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If Protestantism is true then how come fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects?
I’m pretty sure this alone accounts for half of all to Catholicism and Orthodoxy
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Anybody can make a church and the remove all requirements of belief to be in that church until it's essentially a country club. In the 60's and 70's tons of these shit tier churches became defacto Marxist propaganda outlets essentially replacing the destruction of all social and societal foundations with a belief in a castrated Bible that allows everyone to believe what they want
bro have you not looked around? the lgbt have invaded catholicism as well. historically catholic universities like notre dame now have lgbt clubs and you can be expelled for quoting leviticus.
It's what happens when you start erecting statues of The prostitute™ all around your land.
Did you seriously call the Mother of God that?
See pic.
Also read the 10 commandments, the sermon on the mount, the epistles from John. Idolatry is still a sin, stop worshiping statues, stop bowing to statues, stop bowing to and praying to other gods before God Almighty. You guys worship statues of Mary more than you worship God in spirit and truth. In your "hail Mary", you hail Mary ten times more than you hail God, who is preeminent? Not God. That's not even Mary either, you have no idea what she even looked like; nor are your crucifixes Jesus, Jesus isn't a piece of wood or stone, nor is Jesus dead or a baby or a piece of food, he's at the right hand of God and he will return in fury to take vengeance on people like you, on those who know not God and obey not the gospel.
>he's at the right hand of God and he will return in fury to take vengeance on people like you, on those who know not God and obey not the gospel.
Right, that's what it says in 2 Thessalonians chapter 1. Also there's this:
"And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts."
- Revelation 9:20-21
It's sad to see those who are worshipping idols openly trying to insinuate that they are following the Bible. It is like it says in Matthew chapter 7 though.
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
- Matthew 7:22-23
That's Nestorianism
Mary is the Mother of God because Jesus is God and Mary is His Mother. Simple as.
>That's Nestorianism
Even Jack Chick wasn't wrong about everything.
That's not Nestorianism because there isn't a separation between Jesus' human and divine natures.
But Mary is still the Mother of God
>worship Mary
If you want so badly to worship the moon flesh of the fallen star then I have the religion made for you. But know this, that it was not made for the children of God.
I don't know why Catholics ignore stuff like this, they ignore all the wrong and evil of their church from all the indoctrination and brainwashing to think they need to be a part of that cult to be saved.
If you're referring to the prostitute of prophecy, that's the Roman Catholic Church itself, drunk with the blood of God's saints, but most people seem completely ignorant to that cult's history, or they think the people torturing and murdering Christians were actually Christian just because they said so, just because they lip-professed.
That's right, they are indeed worshipping and building statues to a false god.
"The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."
- Jeremiah 7:18
This is the so-called "queen of heaven." It's a false god that they have been building idols to and worshipping as a deity. It is indeed a great provocation against God, as we see in the Bible.
Idolatry has always been a sin, it's no different than the sin of the golden calf, and it is repudiated from the start of Scripture to the very end. What these people are is unrepentant idol-worshippers who are trying to say they are Christian. Yet they worship false gods at the same time and they are living in open sin and blasphemy. They cause the way of truth to be evil spoken of, like it says in 2 Peter chapter 2. Those who are in the church are called to be separate from the unclean ways of the world, like Paul told us in the book of 2 Corinthians and elsewhere.
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
- 2 Corinthians 6:14-18
False equivalence, Catholics maintain that homosex is a mortal sin. They just think being gay is a condition that has to be managed. In other words being gay isn’t a sin, acting out on it is.
Mainline Protestants think sodomy is fine.
All Christians of course consider sodomy to be a sin but plenty of heretics exist in all organizations. It's just that some Protestant denominations are 100% compromised while the RCC hasn't changed its teachings even if half of the clergy is worthless.
Protestants aren't a cult with a cult hierarchy like the Papists. They aren't a unified group with a man as the head. There's only one head of the church of Scripture, and that's the Lord Jesus Christ, and the church of Scripture isn't a worldly building or organization and he certainly wouldn't be a friend of the world.
If you can't discern false doctrine for yourself, if you need to cling to denomination labels or some pope or patriarch or priest or professor or youtuber to tell you the truth, then you're just not familiar enough with God's word and you clearly aren't since you're "discerning" by labels like "Protestant" and you think that refers to a unified group who all have the same beliefs. Either you really believe that foolishness or you are a liar. I don't know which, because Catholics tend to be as stupid as the atheists and the history of their church shows the much blood it spilled from the hatred in their hearts from a false gospel and a different jesus, but I'll assume you're just foolish rather than a liar here.
Cope
It's true though, anon. Jesus Christ is risen. He is far better of a guide than anyone else, and He is God.
"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen."
- Mark 16:19-20
I’m Orthodox. I learned from ancient Christian communities in Egypt etc. how to be Christian. I don’t believe in Protestantism because I don’t believe in making shit up and building on the shifting sands of human reason.
>I’m Orthodox.
Great.
>I don’t believe in Protestantism because I don’t believe in making shit up and building on the shifting sands of human reason.
You don't need to justify yourself to me, but yes, that's good as well. Manmade traditions are inferior and fallible.
>I learned from ancient Christian communities in Egypt
Not a good source considering what Scripture says about Egypt and how God's Word uses Egypt as an insult at times similarly to how God uses "Sodom". Alexandria is where most modern heresies come from such as Jesus not being the begotten Son of God and not being God, it's where the gnostics and occultists perverted the manuscripts to push their ideologies, and their manuscripts are the minority text among all the manuscripts which have been found. But I guess you have to rely on them if you want to be part of a religious system that worships idols/icons.
>I don’t believe in Protestantism
So you're a Roman Catholic or ecumenism heretic, you don't protest their church or its false gospel or false doctrines and contradictions to God's Word. Root word of protestant is protest.
>because I don’t believe in making shit up and building on the shifting sands of human reason.
That's what the Roman Catholic church and its harlot daughters do, such as the "Orthodox" church which is full of idolatry.
Not him, but there's only one head of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ, not any pope who is blasphemously called "Holy Father" a title which is reserved for God alone.
God's people hear him and follow him:
>John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
>John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
>John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
"Holy Father" title is reserved to God the Father, not any man nor caesar/pope.
>John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
But traditions are more important to people who cling to religious/belief systems rather than truth (John 17:17).
> Not him, but there's only one head of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ, not any pope
So Protestants are subject to leaders who are themselves subject to no one, so people have made their own individual Catholic Churches and have decentralized Catholicism under the auspices of restored apostolic fidelity. Doesn’t sound very promising.
>> Not him, but there's only one head of the church, the Lord Jesus Christ, not any pope
>So Protestants are subject to leaders who are themselves subject to no one
Jesus Christ is not no one.
If it’s not important for Protestant church leaders to be subject to any ecclesiastic authority then why is it important for Protestants to be subject to church leaders? No one is subject to the teaching of anyone else, there is only the individual believer and Jesus.
Can’t have it both ways.
You literally called the Lord Jesus Christ "no one". I don't care what you have to say, idiot.
moron
They're no different from atheists who gather in satanic temples to worship Satan. They don't actually believe any of it and could identify and larp as anything.
>How come fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects?
How come people who protested against the Catholic Church’s teachings are called Protestants?
Diet of Speyer/Diet of Worms
> fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects
>catholic countries include spain france and italy
Nona...
Just because a country is historically religious doesn’t mean the modern version of those countries are inherently linked to the religion. No one believes. That’s a different problem.
Then this whole "pretend to be russian orthodox to do crypto white nationalism" thing is worthless.
?
Christianity is not white nationalism.
lol Italians are very heavily Catholic dude, as are French and Spanish.
>as are French
no we're not anymore, unfortunately
I was at evening mass in Paris a few weeks ago and it was full of young French ppl.
Yeah but they're a fraction of the total population, less than 5%
Neither church, catholic or protestant, recognizes the children of God anymore so they are both illegitimate and I would condemn them both as willing collaborators with the enemy.
Catholicism literally does actually.
They are blindly repeating words they do not comprehend. They speak of the Holy Spirit and God the Father but ask them to point to a child of God in a crowd and they will prove they can not see the Kingdom of Heaven.
You are identifying israeli society as the Kingdom of Heaven?
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Who cares? They let in gays, and the entire reason to care about Christianity is that it's a politically useful tool for White racial politics. If that's no longer the case then it's worthless.
It's kinda funny when people say that christianity is only useful for maintaining White society and it's values when White society and it's values only exist because of Christianity.
Where are the trappings of white society in Africa?
I will tell you a story about long ago... When Christianity was first carried by children of God bringing the light of God within them into Africa they went in among those who are not children of God. There in that land the souls was invented because they sought to bring into the fold the people of that land who would render service to God. To complete this goal the first and only ritual was conceived by the children of God which grants a soul to the flesh of man and thereby provides the recipient a place among the children of God in the Kingdom of Heaven. Sometimes this is the eating of a cracker and the drinking of some juice, or the dunking of a person in water but I tell you that is ineffectual and bears little resemblance to anything of God.
No, Christianity only exists because of White society. All of the things that people in the West actually care about doesn't come from Christianity, and the most Christian parts of the world are abandoning them.
>individual excellence
This is literally the ascension of the soul from Asatru and Hellenism, Christians in Africa and South Asia are tossing these out.
>monogamy
LITERALLY Paganism, the Abrahamic deity repeatedly extolls the virtues of polygamy.
>rule of law in opposition to mob justice
The Torah has fricking instructions on how to rile a mob up and tear down civilization.
>punctuality
The israelites thought that shitting in a trench was the height of culture while the Greeks were figuring out how the stars worked.
How are these churches Protestant?
By being Protestant? Christian non-Catholic non-Orthodox.
That is not good reasoning. How are they Protestant?
By adhering to the principles of the reformers?
The formal principle of the reformation is scripture alone. It means that scripture is the authoritative and inerrant source of theology for the church. These churches have fully embraced higher criticism and believe things contrary to scripture. Their human reasoning is a higher authority than scripture. Which means they don’t adhere to the principles of the reformation. So I don’t see how they are Protestant.
Absolute cope. They are their own authority, as are all Protestants.
The criticisms you've made here are true of Catholicism as well. They also add things to the Bible, and proclaim themselves as authorities over God. It's just as bad or worse. The pot is calling the kettle black. The various branches of both groups have added manmade traditions, such as not doing biblical baptisms and merging the church with the state in some kind of abomination. Many of those groups have downright taught a works gospel, which means they are to be accursed according to Paul. And many of them commit idolatry openly, holding all kinds of other false, unbiblical doctrines as well. None of this behavior is in accordance with Scripture, even if they say that it is.
Anyone can disprove them in minutes just by going to the Bible. It's crystal clear what their faults are, there's simply no question about it. Idolatry, perverting the Gospel, and all of the things I mentioned. They've just been gaslighting everyone about their unbiblical doctrines this whole time, acting like the Bible is unclear when it's not. You can find teachings in the Bible that instantly expose the hypocrisy of every single brand of Catholicism, capital C and lower case c as well.
> The criticisms you've made here are true of Catholicism as well. They also add things to the Bible, and proclaim themselves as authorities over God. It's just as bad or worse. The pot is calling the kettle black
When you lineally descend from the actual organization of the apostles and Jesus, that’s what God wants. In the Bible that Jesus have binding and loosing authority to the church leaders.
> Many of those groups have downright taught a works gospel, which means they are to be accursed according to Paul
Paul only preached that works of the israeli law don’t save - he wasn’t saying the Christian life doesn’t require works to justify, as the Bible also testifies to many times over.
> None of this behavior is in accordance with Scripture, even if they say that it is.
Who do you answer to on earth in terms of your spiritual life?
> You can find teachings in the Bible that instantly expose the hypocrisy of every single brand of Catholicism, capital C and lower case c as well.
Why do all the ancient Christian communities (Rome included) exhibit the same repeated features? It goes back to the apostles.
> That can’t be true
Who is the scriptural authority in Protestantism that Protestants are subject to?
No LGBTQ in Catholicism (doctrinally) or in any Orthodox church, it’s a purely Protestant phenomenon indicating that Protestantism is subject to the whims of man whereas the others are not.
>When you lineally descend from the actual organization of the apostles and Jesus, that’s what God wants.
Yeah, I know. That is exactly so.
>In the Bible that Jesus have binding and loosing authority to the church leaders.
That's in Matthew 18 and John 20.
>Who do you answer to on earth in terms of your spiritual life?
I answer to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and I am part of a church that does the same. No matter what I have done, He is the judge. I hope I've made a good impression for people, but ultimately God's view of things is what matters.
>Paul only preached that works of the israeli law don’t save - he wasn’t saying the Christian life doesn’t require works to justify,
Teaching a works-based salvation, rather than having faith in what Christ did and said for us, is indeed a false gospel. It only deserves condemnation.
"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God."
- Romans 5:1-2
> I answer to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
And no one’s doctrine on behalf of Jesus right? Your religious authority is the apostles, who are dead, therefore you take it upon yourself to understand what they taught as opposed to learning from the extant church.
>Your religious authority is the apostles,
Yes, so if a person is walking disorderly and isn't listening to them, and what we have received from them, I am to withdraw from them.
"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
- 2 Thessalonians 3:6
>who are dead,
Judas Iscariot indeed died, but the apostles are present with the Lord now. I don't believe they're dead. I also believe fully that God is He who gives man knowledge. To those who will take instruction from God, it is possible for them to know all doctrine from God's word.
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
(First John 2:27)
With God, all things are possible. With God, we are able to come to the truth, to sensible conclusions. Because of the Lord, every individual has the possibility to receive light. He is able to shine the light of knowledge in any one's heart. But if you've abandoned God and you believe nothing that He has said, then it's impossible to come to truth.
"But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him."
- Hebrews 11:6
"And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
- Luke 16:31
"For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?"
- John 5:46-47
> >Your religious authority is the apostles,
>Yes
I misspoke, your religious authority is God- (Catholic-) certified writings of the apostles, not the apostles themselves.
> if a person is walking disorderly and isn't listening to them, and what we have received from them, I am to withdraw from them
Actually you are to listen to them for what constitutes orderly/disorderly if they have the authority of Jesus.
>Who is the scriptural authority in Protestantism that Protestants are subject to?
The Bible, tradition, the church, their Pastor,
Who is the leader of their church and who is he subject to in terms of what he understands the Bible to be communicating?
Who are you talking about?
> The Bible, tradition, the church, their Pastor
I am talking about whoever is in charge of doctrine in Protestant churches. It’s either Jim Bob down the street, or the Archbishop of Canterbury, but either way, they are not subject to the teaching of anyone. It’s just them and the writings of the apostles, so whatever they interpret them to say is what becomes the new Christianity. As opposed to Christianity being an actual community/society/body founded by Jesus that can’t simply be replaced.
In prot churches(Jim Bob’s nondenominational church founded in 2006 is not Protestant), the leaders are subject to scripture alone. Scripture alone by which we judge all faith and practice. Prots will have confessions of faith. And those helps prots as a church explain what they believe scripture teaches. It is a church body coming together and saying they all agree that the confession is what scripture teaches. So I don’t know what you’re talking about with the leader just makes it up as he goes.
Whoever oversees the creation of these confessions is making it up, full stop.
Where do these confessions come from but from the mind of man?
Confessions are summaries of the teachings of scripture.
Confessions are an inherently Protestant phenomenon. These confessional documents emerged prominently during and after the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century as a way for emerging Protestant churches to articulate their doctrinal distinctions from the Roman Catholic Church and from each other. They serve as foundational texts that outline the theology, practices, and organizational principles of various Protestant denominations.
Each one is entirely man-made.
> They serve as foundational texts that outline the theology, practices, and organizational principles of various Protestant denominations.
What is the source of the summaries? Oh right. Scripture. Not made up by the minds of men.
There wouldn’t be 1000 competing “summaries of scripture” if they weren’t made up.
There is not 1000 confessions. And there wouldn’t be multiple of them if we weren’t sinful so you’re not making any point. What do yo think this tangent will prove? You’ve already been told that prot church leaders are held to the church’s confession and scripture.which just proves even more that these church’s aren’t Protestant because they don’t follow their own confession. So why don’t you try for a third time and explain how they are Protestant?
>In prot churches(Jim Bob’s nondenominational church founded in 2006 is not Protestant)
Protestant is anyone who protests the false gospel and false religious system of the Roman Catholic Church by definition. Ecumenical heretics aren't protesting anything, for example.
This is why Papists kvetching "waah prot" at every other post is anti-intellectual, like their whole "trust the experts" religious system.
>kvetching about statements of faith
>recites vain repetitions to Mary
>demands people submit to creeds written by councils of papists
>demands people submit to the "authority" of the papacy rather than authority of Scripture
Classic Catholic, lacking the love of God in them.
Explains why their cult resorted to torture and murder when they couldn't persuade because the truth is not on their side.
That can’t be true. You can Cope or tell me how they are Protestant because I can’t see it? I’m sure your third attempt will do it.
>Le Pope literally says it's a sin not to embrace gays
I'm not religious but Catholicism is 100 percent gay.
>If Protestantism is true then how come fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects?
>I’m pretty sure this alone accounts for half of all to Catholicism and Orthodoxy
You're all lost. This is the kettle calling the pot black.
>then how come fully 100% of LGBT Christians are Protestant sects?
can't believe b8 like this gets traction but it does.
evangelicals =! prods/protties
"prot" = "any christian i disagree with" on IQfy, so we end up with threads like this where the resident e-caths can't decide whether prots are getting gay married by female priests or bible-bashing fanatics that think any infant/child who dies before they get old enough to understand the basics of christianity goes to hell
It's insane the things Catholics say.