If this is such a good codec then why hasn't it taken the piracy/streaming scene by storm?
>supposedly a smaller filesize for a same/BETTER quality video
FREE AS IN FREE BEER
Just stream it as av1 and save bandwidth/storage space/cpu!
So where the frick is av1? It's here, but as in x265, nobody gives a frick. It would revolutionize the piracy scene long before any paid streaming services but, just like any other codec to supplant h264 it's just being a meme.
Scenegays are moronic, news at 11
Ok, but so are non-scene gays, news at 12
Everyone except me is moronic, news at 13
scene gays are shithole boomers.
their argument is pajeet cant run av1 codexs and need 720p x264 because he has 512b baud modem on a pentium 2 pc with 200 virus on it in bumfrickistan.
so instead of catering to the 99% of human beings they simp for the street shitter who spams good marning saar
Vast majority of people won't download something unless it decodes in hardware on their smart TV
Piracy scenes have always been more interested in compatibility than bleeding edge. Your AV1 encode is 30% smaller than a x265 encode? Cool, it makes no difference because I have such a massive amount of storage anyway and HEVC will decode in hardware for me, whereas AV1 won't (on my old ass NAS that sends videos to TVs).
A lot of people still watch videos on last generation video game consoles that can't even decode x265.
the world peaked with h.264 anyway
the world peaked at s-vhs
Except for when animegay troonysubbers moved to hi10p breaking hardware decoding on almost every device at the time for zero difference. Fricking autists adopting shit for no reason.
poor people pirate. poor people have shit devices that can't decode av1. same thing happened a decade ago when 265 started popping up.
yeah me
No widespread hardware decoding support (though it didn't stop animegays from embracing the Hi10p shit)
Last 2 gens had hw decoding support.
I dont encode shit myself since it takes at least like 20/30 minutes per file, and AV1 has very limited availability, and literally nothing supports it.
It's a b***h to encode, has low compatibility, the source media almost never has detail which is lost by putting it in a 12mb/s h264, and storage is cheap.
The same goes for HEVC even after all this time. AV1 won't replace h264. It'll replace h265.
>storage is cheap
not if you store a decent amount of movies and tv shows
and how does this fork handle film grain automatically?
There aren't enough decent movies or tv shows to fill even a single drive.
It must suck to be you anon
How much is decent? You can have 32TB on 3 disks with single redundancy for less than $600. That's 207 days of continuous playback at 12mb/s, a really good bitrate for 1080p h264. I've maybe watched that much movies and TV total in my life so far (anon in their 30s). If you really want 4k, double the array and bitrate, but imo there's not many movies deserving of 4k.
People who run out of space in huge arrays are massively wasting space with permanent archival at autistic quality levels with triple redundancy on data you can just redownload. We are spoiled with disk and availability. You do not need to keep a permanent hundreds days long cache of content. Let the internet be your SAN. Hold on to only the hard to get things.
I spent $800 upgrading my computer to encode AV1 videos. I could have spent $100 on a bigger hard drive instead.
>moronic
>anime image
post checks out
>h264
>12mb/s 1080
>spinning rust
you should not offer advice to anyone
>muh TV
homosexual boomer, no one cares about your fricking television. If you are streaming to a TV in your house, it should be in magnificent uncompressed mkv format.
The ONLY reason anyone would need to compress their originals into av1 is for optimal streaming outside the house, or for storing the file on your mobile device.
Qualcomm will soon have AV1 hardware decode in mobile chips. H.265 still reigns supreme for now, h.264 is garbage that only garbage people with garbage hardware would use.
it's ok underage anon, one day you'll be able to afford a NAS and TV setup, and then you'll have options other than watching netflix in bed on your samsung galaxy s21
Software 10-bit AV1 decoding (the only thing that really matters) could also improve over time so much that Android could enable it on the billions of chinkshit devices that lack hw 10-bit av1 decoding.
I kind of doubt this will happen until they upgrade from 2017 cortex A55 trash though. ARM a complete fricking disaster when you think about it. It's been nothing but a planned oboslescece CPU. MUH EFFICIENCY was a straight up hoax, these things are both low power and low performance. Apple doesn't want to admit to the world that their laptop ARM chips consume 20-40 watts under load which is pretty much identical to x86.
>h.264 is garbage that only garbage people with garbage hardware would use.
Cope. This is like Windows vs Linux, it will stay popular for the next decade.
mkv is a container, idiot
Ask me how I know you're young
https://nyaa.si/?f=0&c=0_0&q=AV1
There seems to be plenty of AV1 torrents out there.
The encoders are dogsghit that prioritize SSIM over perceived quality.
Maybe this will be fixed someday: https://gitlab.com/AOMediaCodec/SVT-AV1/-/issues/2105
Note the example screenshots. YouTube has that problem in spades currently, anything low contrast gets blurred to hell and back.
Also I can't believe encoders can't handle film grain automatically and you have to set the parameters manually.
https://github.com/gianni-rosato/svt-av1-psy/?tab=readme-ov-file#feature-additions
Older devices don't have av1 supports
so? i can play 1080p av1 video on my 2016 phone, how slow of a machine do you want to play videos on?
good goy keep buying new things
Who cares about your phone. Most people own TVs that can't play AV1 natively.
your phone has software decoding, many devices do not
You see the threads where people say you don't need more than a i5-2500K? People don't like upgrading for some reason.
>upgrade every device to play AV1
>what, you cant play AV5 yet???
Theres a reason people dont rush to upgrade to latest meme
It's been 6 years since AV1, and AV2 hasn't even been finalized yet.
Yeah, and by the time devices accept AV1, OP will be wondering how come scene isnt updating to AV2. Theres zero incentive to change to a format with lower compatibility, compatibility is king.
my laptop with a third gen i3u processor decodes 1080p AV1 files just fine
>piracy/streaming scene by storm
Because everyone has tons of storage now and we go for 4k remux
It's only recently that the SVT AV1 encoder, specifically with 10-bit encoder precision improved enough to actually outperform x265 10-bit in both quality/compression. Before that AV1 wasn't taken seriously because of how long it took to encode.
Software decoding is still a problem though. We have no choice but to JUST wait until TV manufacturers put AV1 decoding on their TVs because they'll always use anemic ARM CPUs to ensure planned obsolescence. BEST case scenario Cortex A55 instead of A53.
It would be really nice if a ~$200 steam deck lite got released for the normalgays. You really don't need much x86 to software decode AV1. A dual-core zen 2 CPU would probably be more than good enough.
n100 minipcs are cheaper than that and are more than enough for av1
My old low tier samsung tv 2019 model have av1 hardware encode, surely the other tvs followed
*decode, my bad
People still use TVs that are over a decade old.
That's too bad, Cleetus. You and your low-caste dependents should give up cigarettes for a week, and use the money for a n100 (assuming your Sanyo even has hdmi)
which aren't smart tv's, so why does it matter what the tv supports?
>took like 8 years before the scene actually started using x265
>the vast majority of releases are still in x264 anyway
the scene is fricking glacially slow.
>So where the frick is av1?
Everywhere. If you're watching a high-quality Youtube video, it's likely AV1. Muh pirate scene is a fringe dominated by third-worlders.
>It's just a meme
Can 26x do 5-minute HD res music videos within 6MB?
It also possible to compress unscaled 4K 2160p music videos and fit them in IQfy size limits.
For example, 6MB video https://qu.ax/GcQS.webm is the compression of https://youtu.be/VboS3zloKb8
Stealing attention from OP
I'm on linux. I want to set up some kind of server to stream video feed for a friend on the other side of the globe. I have been using apache/RTMP setup, but it sometimes becomes choppy (i havent been able to pin down the cause of the problem). I kinda want to look into something else. I've read on the internet that the WebRTC is the new hot thing for streaming video over the internet, but haven't found an actual implementation of a server for it. At best i would like to use OBS to stream. And in best case scenario i would like to have it playable by the browser or VLC. looking into AV1 for encoding sounds promising.
What are your suggestions IQfy?
https://github.com/bluenviron/mediamtx
simple standalone binary that you can use to test out a bunch of streaming protocols
im using a rpicamera with it on webrtc, took less than a minute to setup
Why don't you set up a Jellyfin server and make an user for him? You can transcode if you need.
because it feels like installing a whole mastodon instance to have a chat with someone when i could just whip up a simple chat script
Yeah I get your point. Still, I think it's the least painful way. Transcoding is necessary when streaming over internet.
No one uses AV1. After h265 they will move to h266 because it's simply a better codec. Nobody in piracy gives a single frick about muh open sores and muh freedum. They are already free by not having to worry about licenses at all.
LOL no it isn't. They literally had to shill unfair benchmarks to get people pretending that it's good. I forget the thread but it turned out that preset 10 SVT was being used LMAO.
AOM preset 6 already obliterates x265 in both compression and speed. 10-bit AOM preset 0 is like 50% better than x265 especially with modern 1080p anime (ie 0 to low noise, tons of vectorization).
YouTube uses it for all popular and thus often-served videos. This fact alone makes your 'no one' claim as false as it gets.
In the context of piracy.
Black person.
I think the streaming sites are using YouTube as a test to see how good it is in practice and what difference it actually makes and once the test has been running for a while longer and more devices have support for it they'll probably implement it. If they were a bit smarter they'd just check if the device supports it and then use AV1 but streaming services aren't really known for having the most intelligent people employed by them.
https://gitlab.com/AOMediaCodec/SVT-AV1/-/releases
SVT-AV1 2.0.0 is even faster and better image quality, the MPEG SHILLS are getting destroyed in the ass by superior technology
Don't listen to MPEG SHILLS posting outdated info or graphs
It's not. It's shit. It has the same problem with near blacks as the rest.
I'm doing my part: rentry.org/inpoot
Almost all of the above are my encodes, except for Breaking Bad and a couple of cartoons which I shamelessly stole from 1337x and just added the audio tracks.
The people designing codecs for MPEG want higher quality. The people designing codecs for AOM want lower bandwidth.
These two goals sound the same, but the end goal has led to entirely different design philosophies. As a result, AV1 at low quality is designed to hide from you how bad it is, rather than actually be good. Meanwhile, AV1 at high quality struggles to compete with e.g. VVC at high quality.
The use case for AV1 is for streaming services to spend less money without users complaining, because they can't tell how much information they're losing. It has no place in domains where the distributor actually wants to give you something worthwhile.
It looks better than X265 and that's all that matters to me.
based.
I converted 4k HDR 10 MKV down to 1080p AV1 2mb/s and it looks great even on big screens. You would never know the difference on a 6.5" phone display.
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There's also something suspicious about VVC IMHO. Think DRM suspicious.
>because they can't tell how much information they're losing
True considering many people think yt av1 video that has been compressed to shit looks good to them
It's a shit codec made to save money on streaming services like israelitetube and netgoy. It doesn't offer anything over h264/5 for 1080p/4k for offline encodes.
Also it's SLOW to encode in software and HW encoders are always shit.
Scene will move to VVC in the future.
Battlemage will have VVC decoder according to leaked slides so I don't give a shit about AV1.
VVC is even slower than AV1.
Boy, there's still a significant number of releases coming out as fricking Xvid. that's x263 (THREE). In any case, AV1 is getting popular for anime releases, much faster than HEVC ever was.
Why?
Anime watchers tend to watch shit on their phones or their PCs, rather than TVs, so they care less about mainstream compatibility I would guess
https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/+/refs/tags/v3.8.2
https://aomedia.googlesource.com/aom/+/refs/tags/v3.8.2
It has, most of my library is av1 now.
Let's be honest; nobody gives a FRICK about Anime Video 1 or Vaseline Video Coding outside of this thread. Everyone will still be using AVC/HEVC (Apple) for the foreseeable future, and you're in complete denial if you think otherwise. As for me, I'm sticking with DivX because it's fast and it keeps the DVD look.
That's masochistic and sacheristic at the same time.
If you can use your brain
Why do you type like someone who failed elementary school
Like this
Scene rules are fairly conservative. Also, hardware support isn't there yet. That's about it. It always takes some time for a new standard to get there.
probably cause it's not widely supported in hardware yet
cause its slow af