Why do we need dedicated teachers to explain the world of an almighty God.
Like, maybe God should've written a book that everyone can read, without having third parties interpreting it for us.
Are their plenty of cute virginal, wholesome ,modest, young women out there? Also how do most people feel about the current pope?
Among Jehovah's Witnesses, modesty in dress is encouraged for both men and women.
The level of modesty in dress can vary depending on factors like cultural practices, personal beliefs, and regional customs.
>Also how do most people feel about the current pope?
The Papacy slowly became corrupted as it strove to attain great dominion and authority, both civil and ecclesiastical.
For example, it reinstated the pagan ceremonies and obligations of the Collegium Pontificum and the position of Pontifex Maximus. It also created Christian religious orders to replace the ancient Roman ones such as the Vestal Virgins and the flamines. Moreover it brought into the church the ancient pagan festivals and made them 'Holy Days'.
The office of the Papacy is responsible for the fallen state of the church. The conduct of those in power had grown so spiritually and morally corrupt that it became part of the Antichrist!
Now you lied twice, because that's not what you said.
This is exactly why you're going to burn in hell for all eternity.
modern christians are such ugly freaks inside it turns the stomach. the appeal of the religion for you is that you get to threaten people with suffering and imagine them in pain. you don't even want heaven for yourself particularly, you just want all your neighbors in hell. where do you think you're going when you die, when you have a tar-black soul that rejoices when you picture the suffering of others?
nah, you're just a slanderous bitter child who assumes the worst of people and thinks himself smart because of it
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i don't have to assume anything, you people just keep saying it out loud. there's a guy in the thread going like a mantra "YOU WILL SUFFER YOU WILL SUFFER DIVINELY YESSSSS SO MUCH SUFFERING" like fricking clive barker wrote him, and you think i'm just imagining that modern christianity appeals to people who are fricked in the head? get real
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's cause and effect homie.
We're telling you exactly why you're going to burn in hell.
That's all on you.
These people actually look surprisingly thin for a random selection of Americans.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Meth abuse tends to make people thin, that's also why they don't smile showing their ruined teeth.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
IDK, I live in rural Kentucky in like the epicenter of meth and fentanyl fun and people definetly manage to be fat and on drugs fairly often.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that's also why they don't smile
Aren't those mug shots? Aside from not having a reason to smile during a mug shot, I am pretty sure you're not allowed to. It's like driver's license and passport pictures. They want a neutral face for facial recognition.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Most of them are smiling, just in a way that doesn't show teeth.
and now instead of imagining me in pain you have the emotional impulse to imagine me as ugly, freakish, a militant leftist etc etc. ironically the same mentality is what moves both you and the people in your picture: the commies are waiting for a new stalin to slaughter all the people they envy, whereas you're waiting for god to "burn them in hell." it's the same resentful bugman personality expressed in a different vocabulary.
>all your neighbors
We aren't talking about all my neighbors, we're talking about how you're a pathological liar bearing false witness against God, which means that you, personally, are rightfully going to burn in hell for all eternity, because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
>because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
how the frick is it going to be good with YOU in it when, to repeat myself, you have a soul black enough to wish eternal pain on random strangers for trivial reasons? you're a venomous, loveless toad and it drips from every word you say. what do you think heaven will be like, insects like you looking down into hell and going "yessss, yesss, look at the israelites fry, look at that homosexual screaming in agony"? who the frick that's not a piece of garbage would want to go to a heaven like that? because you won't be happy with anything else. who would want to go to a heaven for freaks like you? come on.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
see
>all your neighbors
We aren't talking about all my neighbors, we're talking about how you're a pathological liar bearing false witness against God, which means that you, personally, are rightfully going to burn in hell for all eternity, because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
You're a bad person and you suffering for all eternity in hell is justice.
>all your neighbors
We aren't talking about all my neighbors, we're talking about how you're a pathological liar bearing false witness against God, which means that you, personally, are rightfully going to burn in hell for all eternity, because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
You're so weak and pathetic. First of all, the soul is immortal so if that baby dies it has simply passed from one state of being to another. Secondly, even if the soul were not immortal then according to you that baby simply went from a state of consciousness to a state of non-consciousness, which literally doesn't even matter. Thirdly, pain makes life more interesting. If we got whatever we wanted we would be sluggish, selfish, and pathetic.
>which literally doesn't even matter.
but your argument is that it doesn't matter either way?
if baby has soul: >First of all, the soul is immortal so if that baby dies it has simply passed from one state of being to another.
if the baby has no soul: >Secondly, even if the soul were not immortal then according to you that baby simply went from a state of consciousness to a state of non-consciousness, which literally doesn't even matter.
so your argument is that dying is never bad no matter what. is this the cope you have to make to defend god?
Do you consider yourself an authority or the interpretations you present as authoritative?
How do you account for the discrepancies between your interpretations and the dominant interpretations through history including what the early church fathers said?
Are you open to the possibility that you're actively working against God and hiding the truth through self-reinforcing delusions based on what you and people like you want to be true?
Is it possible you don't actually understand the Bible?
Your problem isnt with suffering, its that you assume the child's suffering is pointless. But you dont know that. You see so very little but imagine you understand so much.
you're like a teenager who thinks he has the world all figured
>God was right to give this baby significant morbidity at the start of life because... it is all part of his greater plan! It's 4D chess. Trust the plan. >if you don't believe in the Qtard conspiracy, you are a teenager
Delusional, mental illness even.
The complex interactions that lead to a baby struggled for 4 billion year to get there and now almost always work but when they don't that's le hecking evil. Damn you world for not being a static source of satisfaction for urges adapted for survival in the world in the first place.
You're the one promoting an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good god.
The existence of neonatal liver failure is not a contradiction in my belief system. Only in yours.
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Anonymous
>You're the one promoting an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good god.
As the first axiom of the Bible creation is defined as good. Under this definition the source of creation is the absolute good and that doesn't change due to creation being a process that's constantly overcoming resistance.
When you use the word "good" you're incoherently mixing that tradition where the idea is actually defined with your own confused and vague sense that fulfilling your evolved urges is good.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
From my understanding, creation was described as good before the evil had been introduced into the world and when it was a paradise where no one could die or suffer. So your point is theologically incorrect.
No, yknow what, imma take this one for biblebro here. Your question and the millions of carbon copy clones of it are literally just "Bad thing in nature therefore no God can exist" And my answer is frick you. What's your meta point here? That we should throw out thousands of years of philosophical and spiritual advancement because one bad thing happens? All of a sudden that steely eyed atheistic "Science can fix anything with enough time and effort" Disappears. You suddenly believe in God for a brief instant only to blame him for something. The Holy Spirit is that which pushes us forward to solve these problems and you've spat upon it. "Oh some 2 year old kid got cancer, tear down the church and renounce our collective faith because the only answer is that God hates us all." Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps this is a sign that we should increase our efforts to prevent such diseases and afflictions? That the answer is that we should work harder and treasure that which is given to us? No, you just wanna b***h about whatever was taken away, and give no solutions as to how to prevent it in the future and spite God and His gift of the Holy Spirit in doing so. That is the cardinal sin, the unforgivable sin. You and your nihilist crying accomplish nothing, your comment and the millions like it are mere screams into a void to a being you don't believe in let alone comprehend, you didn't even make a fricking attempt. May God have mercy on your soul.
Your beliefs are shaky at best otherwise you wouldn't spazz out. Also medicine made the most progress after the humanism of the Renaissance.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Creation contained branching possibilities like deciding to absorb the consequence of knowing evil. The fruit is in the garden.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, yknow what, imma take this one for biblebro here. Your question and the millions of carbon copy clones of it are literally just "Bad thing in nature therefore no God can exist" And my answer is frick you. What's your meta point here? That we should throw out thousands of years of philosophical and spiritual advancement because one bad thing happens? All of a sudden that steely eyed atheistic "Science can fix anything with enough time and effort" Disappears. You suddenly believe in God for a brief instant only to blame him for something. The Holy Spirit is that which pushes us forward to solve these problems and you've spat upon it. "Oh some 2 year old kid got cancer, tear down the church and renounce our collective faith because the only answer is that God hates us all." Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps this is a sign that we should increase our efforts to prevent such diseases and afflictions? That the answer is that we should work harder and treasure that which is given to us? No, you just wanna b***h about whatever was taken away, and give no solutions as to how to prevent it in the future and spite God and His gift of the Holy Spirit in doing so. That is the cardinal sin, the unforgivable sin. You and your nihilist crying accomplish nothing, your comment and the millions like it are mere screams into a void to a being you don't believe in let alone comprehend, you didn't even make a fricking attempt. May God have mercy on your soul.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Not him but you haven't satisfactorily refuted him with your tantrum tbqh.
You didn't even attempt to. homosexual
He'll probably say something gay about balancing some imagined sin budgets.
Meaning crossed the river and you are all gods. The part that matters doesn't die, if you live and die correctly death has no bite. The message was expressed in similar forms by many distinct sources from the same period around 0AD, some of it stretches back 500 years before but not much further. Even the story of Caesar mirrors what happened to Christ. The unarmed saviour murdered by those he's saving but becoming even stronger in death.
Why do we need dedicated teachers to explain the world of an almighty God.
Like, maybe God should've written a book that everyone can read, without having third parties interpreting it for us.
Such as? What is a meaningful book everyone agrees on?
Other books don't claim to be word of God.
Such as?
OP BTFO
People will always try to be a middle man to gain a position of authority. You can read the word for yourself without these hacks
how would you explain this 'rapture' people keep bringing up?
Where do you teach the Bible? Is it like "Bible as literature," or theology?
Favorite book(s)?
Mine are: John, I John, Romans, Ecclesiastes, Song of Songs, Amos, Job, I-II Peter
Genesis, Judges, Joshua, and Judith are cool too, but not quite up there for me.
Have you read any Kierkegaard? Would you be willing to check out Practice in Christianity?
>Have you read any Kierkegaard?
No, sorry
The conversion of Paul!
Among Jehovah's Witnesses, modesty in dress is encouraged for both men and women.
The level of modesty in dress can vary depending on factors like cultural practices, personal beliefs, and regional customs.
>Also how do most people feel about the current pope?
The Papacy slowly became corrupted as it strove to attain great dominion and authority, both civil and ecclesiastical.
For example, it reinstated the pagan ceremonies and obligations of the Collegium Pontificum and the position of Pontifex Maximus. It also created Christian religious orders to replace the ancient Roman ones such as the Vestal Virgins and the flamines. Moreover it brought into the church the ancient pagan festivals and made them 'Holy Days'.
The office of the Papacy is responsible for the fallen state of the church. The conduct of those in power had grown so spiritually and morally corrupt that it became part of the Antichrist!
What's your favorite story in the Bible?
Are their plenty of cute virginal, wholesome ,modest, young women out there? Also how do most people feel about the current pope?
Has your congregation recovered after COVID? What do you teach about song of Solomon?
>Has your congregation recovered after COVID?
Yes, thank you!
>What do you teach about song of Solomon?
https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/books-of-bible-intros/song-of-solomon/
Is Jesus God?
as a jehova's witness, how do you feel about your church being even more complicit with child rape than the catholics?
Well, Jehovah Witnesses are basically the witnesses to many crimes, so licking dicky is not unheard of. Alas, you are gay
What is your opinion on the book of Judges? It’s my favorite Old Testament book
No, you didnt, and you will have to explain why you bore false witness against God right before he throws you into hell for all eternity.
man, christian apologetics have really taken a nosedive, haven't they? "false, sick babies don't exist" is a new low for you goofballs
Now you lied twice, because that's not what you said.
This is exactly why you're going to burn in hell for all eternity.
modern christians are such ugly freaks inside it turns the stomach. the appeal of the religion for you is that you get to threaten people with suffering and imagine them in pain. you don't even want heaven for yourself particularly, you just want all your neighbors in hell. where do you think you're going when you die, when you have a tar-black soul that rejoices when you picture the suffering of others?
>the appeal of the religion for you is that you get to threaten people with suffering and imagine them in pain
i have been a christian all my life and been in many churches and around many other christians. Never once have i seen someone as you describe
then you are a very poor judge of character.
nah, you're just a slanderous bitter child who assumes the worst of people and thinks himself smart because of it
i don't have to assume anything, you people just keep saying it out loud. there's a guy in the thread going like a mantra "YOU WILL SUFFER YOU WILL SUFFER DIVINELY YESSSSS SO MUCH SUFFERING" like fricking clive barker wrote him, and you think i'm just imagining that modern christianity appeals to people who are fricked in the head? get real
It's cause and effect homie.
We're telling you exactly why you're going to burn in hell.
That's all on you.
no u
These people actually look surprisingly thin for a random selection of Americans.
Meth abuse tends to make people thin, that's also why they don't smile showing their ruined teeth.
IDK, I live in rural Kentucky in like the epicenter of meth and fentanyl fun and people definetly manage to be fat and on drugs fairly often.
>that's also why they don't smile
Aren't those mug shots? Aside from not having a reason to smile during a mug shot, I am pretty sure you're not allowed to. It's like driver's license and passport pictures. They want a neutral face for facial recognition.
Most of them are smiling, just in a way that doesn't show teeth.
and now instead of imagining me in pain you have the emotional impulse to imagine me as ugly, freakish, a militant leftist etc etc. ironically the same mentality is what moves both you and the people in your picture: the commies are waiting for a new stalin to slaughter all the people they envy, whereas you're waiting for god to "burn them in hell." it's the same resentful bugman personality expressed in a different vocabulary.
>because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
how the frick is it going to be good with YOU in it when, to repeat myself, you have a soul black enough to wish eternal pain on random strangers for trivial reasons? you're a venomous, loveless toad and it drips from every word you say. what do you think heaven will be like, insects like you looking down into hell and going "yessss, yesss, look at the israelites fry, look at that homosexual screaming in agony"? who the frick that's not a piece of garbage would want to go to a heaven like that? because you won't be happy with anything else. who would want to go to a heaven for freaks like you? come on.
see
You're a bad person and you suffering for all eternity in hell is justice.
Imagine the smell
>all your neighbors
We aren't talking about all my neighbors, we're talking about how you're a pathological liar bearing false witness against God, which means that you, personally, are rightfully going to burn in hell for all eternity, because heaven wouldn't be good if it let israelites like you in.
You're so weak and pathetic. First of all, the soul is immortal so if that baby dies it has simply passed from one state of being to another. Secondly, even if the soul were not immortal then according to you that baby simply went from a state of consciousness to a state of non-consciousness, which literally doesn't even matter. Thirdly, pain makes life more interesting. If we got whatever we wanted we would be sluggish, selfish, and pathetic.
>sluggish, selfish, and pathetic
me to a T
>Thirdly, pain makes life more interesting. If we got whatever we wanted we would be sluggish, selfish, and pathetic.
why are protestants like this?
>which literally doesn't even matter.
but your argument is that it doesn't matter either way?
if baby has soul:
>First of all, the soul is immortal so if that baby dies it has simply passed from one state of being to another.
if the baby has no soul:
>Secondly, even if the soul were not immortal then according to you that baby simply went from a state of consciousness to a state of non-consciousness, which literally doesn't even matter.
so your argument is that dying is never bad no matter what. is this the cope you have to make to defend god?
if you love Jesus so much why don't you marry him?
would you agree with the following statement concern human beings and our differences?
>all souls are equal, all flesh is not
Do you consider yourself an authority or the interpretations you present as authoritative?
How do you account for the discrepancies between your interpretations and the dominant interpretations through history including what the early church fathers said?
Are you open to the possibility that you're actively working against God and hiding the truth through self-reinforcing delusions based on what you and people like you want to be true?
Is it possible you don't actually understand the Bible?
Your problem isnt with suffering, its that you assume the child's suffering is pointless. But you dont know that. You see so very little but imagine you understand so much.
you're like a teenager who thinks he has the world all figured
>God was right to give this baby significant morbidity at the start of life because... it is all part of his greater plan! It's 4D chess. Trust the plan.
>if you don't believe in the Qtard conspiracy, you are a teenager
Delusional, mental illness even.
The complex interactions that lead to a baby struggled for 4 billion year to get there and now almost always work but when they don't that's le hecking evil. Damn you world for not being a static source of satisfaction for urges adapted for survival in the world in the first place.
You're the one promoting an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good god.
The existence of neonatal liver failure is not a contradiction in my belief system. Only in yours.
>You're the one promoting an all-powerful, all-knowing, all-good god.
As the first axiom of the Bible creation is defined as good. Under this definition the source of creation is the absolute good and that doesn't change due to creation being a process that's constantly overcoming resistance.
When you use the word "good" you're incoherently mixing that tradition where the idea is actually defined with your own confused and vague sense that fulfilling your evolved urges is good.
From my understanding, creation was described as good before the evil had been introduced into the world and when it was a paradise where no one could die or suffer. So your point is theologically incorrect.
Your beliefs are shaky at best otherwise you wouldn't spazz out. Also medicine made the most progress after the humanism of the Renaissance.
Creation contained branching possibilities like deciding to absorb the consequence of knowing evil. The fruit is in the garden.
No, yknow what, imma take this one for biblebro here. Your question and the millions of carbon copy clones of it are literally just "Bad thing in nature therefore no God can exist" And my answer is frick you. What's your meta point here? That we should throw out thousands of years of philosophical and spiritual advancement because one bad thing happens? All of a sudden that steely eyed atheistic "Science can fix anything with enough time and effort" Disappears. You suddenly believe in God for a brief instant only to blame him for something. The Holy Spirit is that which pushes us forward to solve these problems and you've spat upon it. "Oh some 2 year old kid got cancer, tear down the church and renounce our collective faith because the only answer is that God hates us all." Have you ever stopped to think that perhaps this is a sign that we should increase our efforts to prevent such diseases and afflictions? That the answer is that we should work harder and treasure that which is given to us? No, you just wanna b***h about whatever was taken away, and give no solutions as to how to prevent it in the future and spite God and His gift of the Holy Spirit in doing so. That is the cardinal sin, the unforgivable sin. You and your nihilist crying accomplish nothing, your comment and the millions like it are mere screams into a void to a being you don't believe in let alone comprehend, you didn't even make a fricking attempt. May God have mercy on your soul.
Not him but you haven't satisfactorily refuted him with your tantrum tbqh.
You didn't even attempt to.
homosexual
How are you doing? Do you find your day to day fulfilling?
How exactly does Christ's death on the cross become salvation for us?
He'll probably say something gay about balancing some imagined sin budgets.
Meaning crossed the river and you are all gods. The part that matters doesn't die, if you live and die correctly death has no bite. The message was expressed in similar forms by many distinct sources from the same period around 0AD, some of it stretches back 500 years before but not much further. Even the story of Caesar mirrors what happened to Christ. The unarmed saviour murdered by those he's saving but becoming even stronger in death.
Which is the best bible of them all?
I'm tempted to read the Bible but it is a big time investment. What would a modern Canadian liberal progressive get out of it?
Just fricking why?