I'm having a lot of trouble coping with the fact that when we die, it's over. That's it, eternal blackness.
This seriously freaks me out and lately I'm having trouble sleeping because of this great anxiety I get when I'm alone with my thoughts.
Are there any decent books to help with this or am I better off going to therapy?
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What are you, 12?
Honestly, the best advice I ever heard is to exhaust youself. Exhaust yourself everyday physically and spiritually. And the other thing that helps me is to just not think about it. Just think about something else. I can't do anything about it, so why bother right?
How?
Work hard, play hard, frick hard, live hard. Work to your fulfillment.
This pretty much. The novelty of life wears off. I would get panic attacks at night sometimes thinking about how I'll die when I was 24, but I'm barely 30 now and I'm already starting to think it won't be so bad after all, especially once the signs of old age start creeping on your body. Youth is more valuable than just living by itself, and life as an old person isn't that great so it's not that big of a deal if you go.
0) Read Agamben's Profanations.
3) Lift every day. Even mini body-weight. The idea is Padomaic fitness magnetizing the mana through a physical ritual of rhythmical exertions paired with an intention.
5) Smoke hookah.
8) And upload your inadequacies online as a mild va*x against the conditioning just to feel that sovereign e-presence clout subverting the gift-exchange machinery with blind zero-exchangable void shouts. In doing that you shall regrow your alchemy brain in-cells and, perhaps, will be getting lush inner pussy like the absolute mensch of Serrano de Bergerac flying deep into the moon chakra urgasmic explosions of non-karmic light.
You're gonna have to come to terms with it eventually. Either come to terms with it or become religious.
>Eternal blackness
there is No eternity for the dead,there is only nothingness.
Think about the time before you were born, does it seems scary to you? No.
The only thing that scares me is to live forever, Like forever without end.now that's scary
Youre just gonna live again without any memories of right now, just like you have time and time again. Energy can't be destroyed only transferred, this is all their is
>Think about the time before you were born, does it seems scary to you?
People always say this shit, but a) the time before me is past, it's not something that's going to happen to me.
B) Thinking about the nothingness before you were born is also scary.
>is having terrible life filled with anxiety and sleep deprivation
>also doesn't want it to end
Venus in Furs?
God if I believed that nothing suddenly made itself turn into something I'd be freaking out too
Elaborate?
He's a creationist
>Are there any decent books to help with this
don't be so sure you know what happens after death this side of the threshold.
Weird that I feel like much more sensitive than most people and yet have never really been troubled by this.
Ian Stevenson; go read his research
"The Dead" by Rupert Brooke
These hearts were woven of human joys and cares,
Washed marvellously with sorrow, swift to mirth.
The years had given them kindness. Dawn was theirs,
And sunset, and the colours of the earth.
These had seen movement, and heard music; known
Slumber and waking; loved; gone proudly friended;
Felt the quick stir of wonder; sat alone;
Touched flowers and furs and cheeks. All this is ended.
There are waters blown by changing winds to laughter
And lit by the rich skies, all day. And after,
Frost, with a gesture, stays the waves that dance
And wandering loveliness. He leaves a white
Unbroken glory, a gathered radiance,
A width, a shining peace, under the night.
Here's also "Thanatopsis" by William Cullen Bryant, in the pic since it's too long to post. Both of these poems have helped me in varying degrees.
that's beautiful
Let me tell you how I cope with this anon. I believe that in a life well lived, one in which you can express yourself creatively, do right by your friendships, and work hard on what interests you, a life can feel "complete" and you can welcome the end with nobility and even a sense of wellness.
Second, it's natural to die. As natural as being born. Assume that having this happen is the best possible outcome for anyone.
Third, befriend sleep. It's training you for death every single night. Sure, you as you know it might not wake up the next morning, but it shows you thousands of times through your life that non-consciousness is not painful or worrying in any way at all. It's actually nourishing.
Fourth, and this is just me, I'm not entirely sure that what we are just completely disintegrates into nothing. The entirety of life conspires to grant you this miracle of experience using the most complex systems and unlikely odds possible. I'm not a theist, but some kind of intelligent design obviously exists. Somehow, I don't think the universe is this great objective enemy we're convinced it is. Even our conflicts are relatively pedestrian on a grander scale. Think of how your immune system is in constant battle with possible viruses etc but it does so to contribute to the health of you, a larger system.
As such, I don't think death is a great evil. It's probably a very healthy thing to do. As mad as that sounds.
Of course, this is all a fantastic cope for the most part. But it's a combination of copes that work for me.
Uh... What exactly are you planning on doing that requires more than a human lifespan? I don't think I understand your complaint, because I think if you were immortal after 120 or so years, there's a real chance you might have run out of shit to do even if you're hyper productive and always trying new shit.
>vampire in his 209th year of highschool is bored
Hijacking OP's thread for recs on this trope
>the fact that when we die, it's over. That's it, eternal blackness.
source on this """fact"""?
OP here. This was the right place to come with this crisis if you wanna call it that
Thoroughly appreciate every word and recommendation here. I will begin digging into the stories and studies you guys mentioned.
My skeptical self can't help to figure death is the definite end, but it'd be great to be convinced otherwise.
In any case, thanks for stopping by, truly. Your recommendations are not going to waste.
>can't help to figure death is the definite end
Still confused why this would be a bad thing
OP has a case of the old grandiose narcissism, so they're not going to do anything with their life in order to feel robbed of their potential by death. That's why death and nothingness is the bad guy here. It couldn't be procrastination and never developing your potential, because then it's not some outside force that's responsible for OP not doing things.
Hmm, not at all anon, at least I don't think so. I'm pretty happy regarding my life I would think, got a decent job, close friends and moved out of a shitty country with theam a year ago. I feel content with where I am in life, I don't know why it is that death scares me but I don't think this is it
Are you OP? Because OP is saying
>lately I'm having trouble sleeping because of this great anxiety I get when I'm alone with my thoughts.
And while that doesn't sound the same as what anon is saying, it does sound like you can't be alone without suddenly feeling invalid. That doesn't only happen in narcissism. It can happen in narcissism but it happens in co-dependence and other problems where people can only feel whole through an external validation.
How many people have died before you? How is it exactly hard to cope with this fact?
There is, so death isn't nothing, as above so below. Its best to leave death up to interpretation and try to think optimistically about it, not like you have any choice kek
No darkness but ignorance. You don't even know what you fear.
every religion knows reincarnation exists you moron
Not even blackness anon. You wont experience a thing. Theres no use fearing death because you wont know it ever happened. You fear only the last moments when you know its going to happen. Don't waste any more of your time over what only amounts to a small experience. One that everyone has to go though
Yeah so like other have said, energy can't be destroyed and reincarnation is real. You can look at nde if it can confort you. And i think that believing that we will cease to exist is a trap from satan to make us bad shit and think will get away with it
Any NDE recs?
I don't have read a lot of nde, i have one in french but i think you won't understand it and this guy is really cool so i'm sharing : https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJpj5L1w/
Cry about it
you seriously want to redo this again anon? be relieved in that
You’ll eventually get past it. I feel like im so busy these days I hardly even care anymore.
>when we die, it's over
maybe for you, moron
it's not like you will be aware of it.
why is anyone speaking with certainty about nothingness or blackness or eternity? you sound like absolute morons. it’s like if we were all dead or whatever is opposite this cursing awareness and no one knew about life and you’re all talking about how there’s absolutely nothing besides being dead because how could anyone conceive of life. stop being idiots.
Not denying people are afraid of death, but no living person can know what it is.
Don't listen to copes above, everyone is afraid of death, but simpletons are bad at taking long-term factors into their everyday decision-making, so they make use of this gap to larp as jaded seen-it-alls, spiritually detached monks, or some other archetype for "wise character" they saw on TV. The only practical, rational thing you can do is try to expand your lifespan as much as possible and hope there is a technological breakthrough in your lifetime to let you expand it even further.
>try to expand your lifespan as much as possible
how do
not everyone is afraid of death just because you are you buffoon. suicide wouldn’t exist if everyone truly feared death
>as jaded seen-it-alls, spiritually detached monks, or some other archetype for "wise character" they saw on TV
lel, you know sick people exist? I've been resussed and in near fatal incidents (both medical and merely stupid) and everytiem I'm thinking I'm about to die there isn't a fear or a cope or really anything to think about except getting as comfy as possible under the circumstances. Most of the times I'm near death I'm thinking of really trivial shit like
>oh that breeze is nice
>hey this Filipino nurse is on my chest
>In five minutes from now I'll be rested enough to move my hand I am great at planning
About the closest I got to actually contemplating death when near death was one time I was like
>I don't need to call my mom she knows I love her
Most of the time there's more immediate shit you're thinking about even in situations you're aware you're likely to die. I guess believing you might feel fear at the moment of death might be more comfortingly like an emotional epic, but likely you'll go out thinking
>lol that butthole had a brony bumper sticker
Or some other not very heartstringy thing.
TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND HOLD IT
There is eternity brother. Even the value of Pi stretches to infinity if Math is evidence of Platonic Forms Intelligence exists as a spirut obviously. Math will make you closer to the infinite God and commune with the eternal spirits.