In retrospect was it really morally right to force people to live under your rule against their own will?

In retrospect was it really morally right to force people to live under your rule against their own will?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    israel should pay them reparations

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >israel should pay them reparations
      /thread
      calling it like it deserves to be called

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Of course slavery wasn't moral OP.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Union gave them far more leeway and respect than they deserved tbh. They were bending over backwards to please them constantly
    >well its your state you can do what you want
    >well I guess its your state so frick it you can ignore nationwide laws
    >its your state so frick it I guess we'll help you enforce policies that we dont agree with in our own states just to be nice
    >well I guess we'll fund things our state hates to help you out, whether we disagree or not we're all americans here!
    But Confederates wanted to eat their cake and have it too, they constantly tried to take advantage of federal property and funding and force their policies and views on newly forming western states. It wasnt just about seceding, they wanted the government to basically let them rule america and do whatever they want then they got violent when they didnt get their way.

    This is coming from a pro slavery libertarian southerner.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But Confederates wanted to eat their cake and have it too
      this is such a moronic expression, what is the point of a cake if you can't eat it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You CAN eat it, you just can't continue having the cake after eating it
        moron

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          again, what is the point of having a cake that can't be eaten? Cakes are meant to be eaten, that's the entire purpose of a cake.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes but once its eaten its gone, you cant keep it around and keep eating it forever

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Eating the cake turns it into poo, then you no longer have it
            It is not possible to both eat a cake and have a cake because once you eat it it becomes poo, at which point you do not have it anymore

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can hide in it if you're a stripper

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if Scotland wanted to secede from the UK, and the UK begrudgingly accepted it, then Scotland said "oh we want your nukes, jets, and tanks too" and massacred an army base to take them

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Secession ought to be allowed for states if only for extreme circumstances or when the overwhelming majority of a state's population wants to leave. A federal government that forces a state to remain in the Union no matter what is a tyrannical one and violates the principle of freedom of association.

    That being said the South absolutely seceded because of slavery.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Secession ought to be allowed for states if only for extreme circumstances or when the overwhelming majority of a state's population wants to leave
      that's fine but don't act like the federal government won't be invading next day on grounds of seizing whatever assets they have in the state and ultimately removing whatever government led the secession

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >That's fine but they'll kill you if you try
        You know what "ought" means right?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          of course i do, but i'm sick of hearing we should do this or we should do that. just fricking do it Black person. tired of hearing all this talk from basement dwelling incels on how to run a country

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That was the model for the united states of central america, which you can see worked out just great for everyone.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, but not for the reasons you'd think

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of lunatic was farming in Miami in the 1800s?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah it's always been immoral but people today live under it and just accept it. Not enough people even care, unless they can use the concept to score some social points, then it's suddenly an issue.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was morally right to force them to stop forcing people to live under their rule against their own will. Chuds can die mad about it.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >In retrospect was it really morally right to force people to live under your rule against their own will?
    Literally spelled out why black slavery was immoral

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even as a Latino shit like this makes me crack up. You realize you're advocating for your daughter to get fricked by blacks? Every time I see some IR porn, a white cuck like you is the father of the white chick getting gangbanged by blacks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Even as a Latino
        Nobody cares
        >Deranged cuckold fantasies
        Ah, I see, mutts law at work

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you don't have a problem with blacks fricking your daughter? LOL, pml, fricking white cuck.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mutt's law lmao

        >Hey I'll keep these black dudes in my fricking house and on my plantation where my family lives and anyone who wants to stop that is trying to advocate rape
        Like you do realize that slavemaster daughters and wives were fricking Black folk on the side all the time right? Shit, the slavemasters were drilling oil too. Shit was nasty
        Also
        >A fricking Latino trying to lecture on sexual immorality
        You guys will frick anything that has a hole, including your own children. My first GF was a Mexican gal and her mother scratched her father's friend for trying to rape her and her best friend with her father's express permission, only to be scolded later for marking his face and making his attempted rape self evident. If you want to see rape, go to any house party where you can hear Suavemente playing on the speakers and go to the back rooms. We called date rape drugs Spanish Fly because you homosexuals can't get your wiener sucked without spiking someone lmao. You have no leg to stand on

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Embarassing.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        O B S E S S E D

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The difference is that one is your own people, while the other is not. What's the point of your "moral victory", if you and your people cease to exist and there's no one left to appreciate it?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Northern Aggression
    Aw, here we go.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I suppose the question is, what do you value most: regional autonomy, individual freedom, or national sovereignty? Do *some* people not count when considering whether forcing them to live within a given system is moral, and if so why not?

    You get the idea.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The most hilarious part of the civil war is that America fought to keep moron slavers a part of their shitty nation, and now are constantly b***hing about their descendants being apart of their nation.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The most hilarious part of the civil war is that America fought to get white women blacked. Hundreds of thousands of white American men died so that white women could take BBC.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The only way white women don't sleep with black men is if we HAVE SLAVERY
        Is that really the narrative that you want to go with? That white men are just naturally so weak that the presence of men from another ethnic group in numbers far below that of white men is enough to wipe you out? White women will be in such a fricking frenzy to have sex with 6% of the population, that white men will cease to exist? You make black people look way stronger than they actually are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're right. Next time y'all try this, we're kicking y'all to Mexico and giving your land off to the illegal immigrants.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a strong feeling that none of these shmucks particularly cared about slaves, I'm more interested in how the war was so profitable

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No ones forcing you to do anything. Leave America if you don't like it.

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