>Invents gunpowder. Falls behind everyone else in firearm development.
>Invents the compass. Never explores the ocean.
>Invents the printing press. Just reproduces centuries-old literature with it.
What the frick was their problem?
>Invents gunpowder.
the printing press. Just reproduces centuries-old literature with it.
most historically literate IQfyposter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Song_dynasty_writers
They were content with what they had. The West was never satisfied with anything it had, and the end result was the complete self-destruction of its civilization.
>They were content with what they had
It's more like they were the regional hegemon and didn't need to care about advancement that much
"oh the barbars have weaponised fireworks? Lol like that's going to help against our gorillion chinamen"
China was basically stable for most of it's Imperial history, and the periods of instability didn't last very long. Compare Europe which was in a state of near constant warfare and competition after the Western Roman Empire collapsed.
If you're, say, the Dutch, having a monopoly on nutmeg translates to a tangible economic benefit which translates to being able to afford better armed forces which makes it harder for you to be conquered by the Spanish or the French or the Austrians.
If you're China, establishing a monopoly on nutmeg just makes line go up.
Necessity is the mother of invention, and being surrounded by existential threats that want to pounce on you gives you a lot of necessity to work with
>China was basically stable for most of it's Imperial history
Black person, france was ruled by the same dynasty for 800 years straight while china had constant revolts and changed dynasty every 200 years.
Having the same dynasty for 800 years doesn't mean stability. That dynasty didn't stop the English from their chevauche's, for instance.
The Zhou dynasty reigned for 800 years in China and the Han dynasty for over 420 years plus Shu Han and Liu Song.
This but unironically.
>no reason to industrialize because labor costs are so low
>trade networks are so well developed supply and demand are at near perfect equilibrium in virtually every sector so there’s no reason to innovate
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-level_equilibrium_trap
>the complete self-destruction of its civilization.
homie what the frick was the cultural revolution
Yet another step to take China away from chinese civilization and into western civilization, which wasn't losing their hegemonic place back then.
did the french revolution destroy french civilization?
did theodosius destroy roman civilization?
get a clue
>did the french revolution destroy french civilization?
>did theodosius destroy roman civilization?
Yes and yes
> did the french revolution destroy french civilization?
Yes, in fact, it destroyed Western Civilization.
Cultural marxism
Better to destroy everything in the name of progress than be monkeys for 5000 years.
huh
this, theres a reason theyre referred to as bugmen
>The West was never satisfied with anything it had
Do you know why? It was constantly in a state of division and war while at the same time being dominated more and more by a stateless class of merchants obsessed with gold.
This is why venice exploded for a while, until this class became truly stateless and able to control all of the nations within other states.
Then indebtures lead to a requirement for easy gold - the new world and africa became easy targets because they were largely undeveloped.
On top of this you have the viking influence on the development of sailing technology, which was the final piece that allowed the west to dominate the globe.
tl;dr nordic and israeli sail and gold autism caused the expansion of the west while China became increasing reliant on paper notes in a FIAT sort of way.
Now the West is as fricked as China now to this monster of a debt machine and we haven't developed a sufficient restructuring of debt contracts to make it more opportunistic and less enslaving simply because we never really looked at it enough until recent centuries. By then the world population was exploding and it was too late to change things.
What destruction? The world is the west's (America's) b***h. Do you call gays and trannies some sort of cultural suicide? Fricking morons the lot of you.
gays trannies and women are incompetent at war and will lower standards, alongside the brazil tier mutts formed by progeny of mexican peasants and black slaves. were already seeing this now with blacks refusing to follow orders for nonsense reasons like economic class oppression, and the courts siding with blacks.
dont forget
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/new-biden-dept-energy-appointee-part-time-drag-queen-queer-activists-145352610.html
this is exactly the kind of homer you want administering nuclear resources. trannies of course are completely sane and never have emotional freakouts.
YWNBAW
Rome was gay as shit and only stopped dominating when trad cath morons ruined their society. You are historically illiterate and overall a moron. Freedom creates power. Conservatism creates vulnerability. Isolating yourself and clinging to the past is how you become a victim. Like the Chinese.
gay marriage was illegal in Rome
what a pack of morons agreeing with this nonsense, look at your own cultural revolution chink and the fact you are using European politics, dress, and everything else. cultural decline is not the endpoint, technology and world domination was the endpoint
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13178086/#q13178086
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13292250/#q13292599
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13298560/#q13299182
>Invents the printing press
Gutenberg did
>Never explores the ocean-ACK
memes aside though, China did send out vast fleets across the oceans on several occasions. There was a brief window of time in which Ming China had the world's biggest and best shipbuilding industry/naval fleet from 1500-1530 or so.
neither of these facts really amounted to much THOUGH seeing as China was used to being the dominant economic power of Eurasia already and anyone worth trading with would eventually come to them, not the other way around.
A world without the Manchu could see Chink expansionism in South East Asia, and if we're going full EU4, maybe even Japan.
>A world without the Manchu could see Chink expansionism in South East Asia
i'm not quite sure. the Ming were very politically/socially conservative and barely gave a shit about the outside world even before the Qing.
Ming or Qing China both could have been a huge inter-continental colonial empire with a huge blue water navy and hordes of settlers going to places like Australia or even West Africa, but stagnant Confucian-bugman autism led them to burn all their huge boats and regulate naval travel out of existence. What a waste of potential.
>It's India
India and China took turns with being the biggest economy on the planet for the last 2,000 years or so. But trade routes to China were an equally-coveted thing as trade routes to India. Both were huge markets and sources of goods for Europeans and everybody else.
>India and China took turns with being the biggest economy on the planet for the last 2,000 years or so.
>took turn
India for most of the time.
Not true, ranjeet
Anon, your own graph proves India hasn't surpassed China since 1500.
It says India has bigger economy for most of the interval between 1AD and 1800AD.
What's bizarre is that neither had a population boom before 1400 AD. The massive populations are results of effects after that century.
the data for india was completely fabricated for this chart. indias hindu autism did not lead to medieval record keeping.
>got mogged by Pajeets
>i-it's fake
if it was real youd be able to back it with sources but you cant because they dont exist. it makes you look wimpy and dumb.
See
see
>he fabricated the data anon
Prove it
you made the econ claim moronic homosexual. back it up.
it is the fate of the poo to be not just stupid, but wimpy.
>he fabricated the data anon
>can't prove
>ad hominem
what percent of india is r1a haplogroup?
Like 50% or more
poos caught that L (loser) haplogroup, aka dravidians; majority of L is in africa.
what exactly is H? its also another loser group, frequent in banglatrash and gypsies
How would you even measure the economy of the Indian subcontinent in a consistent manner? India definitely was a huge economy for a very long time but i have serious doubts on anyone that gives a concrete number as to precisely how big it was, considering the exceptionally-poor record keeping and info sources of ancient India.
It's literally made up data based on nothing.
First off, that chart is based on data that's >20 years old at this point and basically only guesses shit and gives both China and India a constant 600 GDP per capita regardless of economic policy and events. Back then economic history was also run by like 5 people.
2nd, India has extremely few primary sources. Accounting data is very scarce compared to China or Europe.
3rd, India was barely ever unified during those supposed periods.
wtf is that x axis
prove it using real sources and not wikipedia or a meme unsourced infograph
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus_Maddison
he fabricated the data anon
why are indians incapable of critical thought and why do they always hide behind other races
*tips 50 yuan*
Sir do not redeem bloody bhenchod teri ma ki chut
australia was impossible to colonize at the time. the tech making it possible coincidentally lined up about when the anglos found it
>australia was impossible to colonize at the time
but why? Aboriginals have been there since forever which proves that it was possible to access (to certain seafaring peoples) for thousands of years.
If Southeast Asians or China wanted to settle Australia, they could have done so. But for a variety of reasons they just never got around to it
because they didnt have the tech to make it worth it. australias temperature is hellish to the point only abbos could live on subsistence
>australias temperature is hellish
Northern Australia's temperature isn't much more extreme than the tropical southern Chinese climate of places like Hainan.
https://www.worldtravelguide.net/guides/asia/china/weather-climate-geography/#:~:text=The%20southeast%20region%20has%20substantial,F)%20in%20January%20and%20February.
https://northernterritory.com/plan/weather-and-seasons#:~:text=Average%20temperatures%20range%20from%2012,like%20a%20carpet%20of%20snow.
it wasn't issues with weather, the Chinese just didn't care about settling other places in the European settler-colony style.
farming was impossible in the north. only good for subsistence for abos
finally a decent point for once.
i guess one of the reasons was that the Chinese were a rice-farming culture, which i suppose is hard to do in the Outback.
well i meant to type environment and not temperature in the prior post but the other post had the sufficient detail anyway
>didn't have the tech to make it worth it
And what tech do you have to be on the tree to settle Australia? Even in Victoria 2 the tech advancements were only for making the settlement of inland Africa possible.
It’s odd how the Ming and Qing decided to ban maritime voyages and trades. The likely explanation is that none of them had full control over the SE coast of China until now and this area is prone to “pirate” raiding. The Ming also had to deal with northern barbarians, solidifying their northern and west borders was likely their priority. As for the Qing, it was perhaps to prevent SE coastal Chinese deflecting to Ming royalists perhaps?
Also, SEA became the de facto trading post for all SE coastal Chinese merchants because of this.
>A world without the Manchu
The Ming Treasure Voyages were basically the autism-interest of the Yongle Emperor (with a bit of help from the Hongwu and Jianwen Emperors IIRC) and stopped because the Hongxi Emperor didn't give enough a shit to continue bankrolling them.
They stopped bothering all on their own
>neither of these facts really amounted to much THOUGH seeing as China was used to being the dominant economic power of Eurasia already and anyone worth trading with would eventually come to them, not the other way around.
It's India. We call native americans as Indians for a reason, not Chinese.
There was no single dominant Indian power. Mughals were a meme who 1. Didn't rule for very long and 2. Didn't exercise much actual control over the land they did "rule"
Cope
Anon, I'm not claiming India's gdp wasn't high, I'm claiming there was no single unified state that owned it. The EU has a higher GDP than China, but it isn't a unified power so it doesn't count.
Are you really arguing the Mughals came anywhere near to the control/centralization China did?
>China count as China
>India not count as India
Holy shit, mother of copes
India (region) had a GDP similar to China.
India (country) didn't exist.
China (Ming dynasty) existed.
Please sir, be working on the readings comprehensionings.
All of Indian states count as India.
The modern Indian state only exists because of the British
Pajeets actually traced it back to Maurya empire.
Maurya owned less than half of modern India.
The EU is the true successor state to the Roman Empire
You're not getting it. India as a modern nation was only able to form because of the stability provided to them by British rule. Without that stability that would never have come together under the single banner of Indian. Before the British took over, they were surrounded by a crumbling empire and unstable territories. They took land as a buffer zone, and then because that land was surrounded by instability they took more land for buffer zoning until they'd unintentionally taken over most of the region. Then they decided to take over the rest to make it complete.
Are you just some delusional Pajeetposter or something? Your country was never as politically united as China and everyone knows it, why pretend otherwise?
>It's India. We call native americans as Indians for a reason, not Chinese.
>anyone worth trading with would eventually come to them
Euros were looking to get Indian goods, not sell shit to them
>not sell shit to them
They did.
They did, in order to offset the costs of buying shit for their domestic markets.
They weren't establishing factories on the Indian Coast for the express purpose of selling shit to them, the selling shit was secondary to the buying shit
Black person what? colombus called them indians because they look like fricking indians.
Their fleet travelled along the coastlines. Not through the oceans as Western fleets.
>Their fleet travelled along the coastlines
wasn't a problem seeing as the whole point of le treasure fleets was to make constant pit stops everywhere they went to flex their wealth to the local poorgay barbarians and bring back pet giraffes for the Emperor.
If Ming China wanted to settle Australia with colonists, for example, they'd probably make pit stops through Malaysia and Indonesia's island clusters on their way. you don't really need to travel that far out to reach most of Eurasia by sea.
the Euros only bothered to sail way out into the open ocean because they were trying to find another route to Asia to avoid paying taxes to Turks.
ok pajeet, poo in loo, do not redeem, etc etc
>ok pajeet, poo in loo, do not redeem, etc etc
Good, you lost.
> If Ming China wanted to settle Australia
They would first have to discover it existed
anyway, the whole thread is a joke. England/low counties already had greater capital accumulation as early as the turn of the first millennium. Zhangs never had a chance.
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>flex their wealth to the local poorgay barbarians
And those barbarians didn't give a single frick about your "power flexing". The chink came to them to trade, so they happily traded with chink. Maybe expanding their reach on the chinese market if feeling lucky. If the chink wanted to do shit instead? then they know they can easily plunder those cumbersome gigantism ship with no repercussion form china because they basically control the high seas.
>And those barbarians didn't give a single frick about your "power flexing"
Yes, actually, they did, chud.
There was more to a Tributary status to China than just plain trading rights. During the Ming in particular, tributary rights for a specific Asian kingdom/monarch was essentially an acknowledgement that you were relevant enough to draw the attention of/you were seen as worth for alt backing by the biggest trade power in the region. A pretty invaluable thing beyond the simple material gains of trade with China (which everybody was doing anyway)
Squeal some more, muttcel. We’re all fascinated to hear what you’ve got to add next.
>wasn't a problem seeing as the whole point of le treasure fleets was to make constant pit stops everywhere they went to flex their wealth to the local poorgay barbarians and bring back pet giraffes for the Emperor.
That's kind of the point.
European exploration was geared towards conquest, profit, and securing superiority over rivals. Hence why it was successful in achieving these goals.
Zheng He and his expeditions were an anomaly, not part of a trend.
>le treasure ship big meme
Wooden ships of that size are not seaworthy.
Marco Polo would like to have a talk with you
>aussies
>unconscious
frick you what do you have against australians? australians are upstanding honourable people.
I believe that is referring to the native Australians.
> right balance
you whites have some gall saying that in 2022. if we will ever learn a lesson from your race and its march into self-destruction, it is to never be so wienery again.
They didn’t explore the open ocean at any time in their history. Not even admiral whatever
It's like the story of Zheng He's fleet exploring all the way down Africa's coast and possibly even Australia; instead of looking to trade or anything; they were literally taking gifts to these places all for the sole intent of showing them how great China is kek
>muh big fleets of big ships
>hug the coast and follow established and well known super safe routes
pretty meh tbh.
The whole point of the treasure voyages was to flex wealth to as many local barbarians during pit stops as possible in Eurasia and to find/buy niche cool stuff to bring back
>THOUGH
Conservatism
>invents gunpowder he says
>they didn't have any fricking guns
wtf dudes
Because in their corner of the world there was literally nothing worth extending and placing even more strain on the bureaucratic apparatus over. Everything ended up in China one way or another. If a collection of merchant clans petitioned the Emperor for official backing to cross the Pacific he'd say "What? That's moronic, go invest in the frontiers to make civilized subjects out of the local barbarians or set up trade colonies in SEA where we can make infinitely more talers." The simple fact was that China was too big to want to get any bigger. Why streamline production methods when you have countless artisans, clerks, and unskilled laborers? Why conquer foreign lands when their people buy already buy your shit and sell you theirs without having to bother with administrating them? The few times a dynasty's borders did expand it was only because it got more expensive to pay the locals of wherever they conquered to fight each other than it was to just blob into it themselves.
im so sick of mutts ruining every china thread
While the poos clearly lost this debate, what is the history of India from a few centuries BC to 1000-1500 AD? India probably wasn't even a unified entity nor had a common culture for that duration. Aside from a few empires. Don't forget India is the most invaded region in the world.
their gdp was probably very high, but chinas more numerous innovations and other civilizations buying and praising their goods more often lends evidence to china being superior in the ancient and medieval world.
>Don't forget India is the most invaded region in the world
i think Iran or Egypt takes that spot tbh. India has seen its fair share of foreign conquerors but Egypt in particular has been dominated by non Egyptians for a huge chunk of its history
>While the poos clearly lost this debate
See
You're moronic source-cel. Even the wikipedia page you linked criticizes Maddison.
>criticize
Name one person who didn't get criticize for anything. Even that commie Joseph Needham you chinks loved so much.
Difference is they questioned Maddison's reconstruction. For India it's apparently guesswork with a lot of room for vagueness. I agree with anon and also find the lack of unification and brutal numbers of invasions more reasons to doubt your claim.
Exactly. See source-cel? Everyone can smell your bullshit.
>questioned Maddison's reconstruction
That didn't mean he's wrong or he fabricated it. Cope.
so try and fail to prove him right and stop being such a dodgy coward about it
poos cant defend their own culture, they always need superior races to understand it for them
You are the one who made the claim that he fabricated, you must prove it, not me.
see
listen you moronic Black person, everyone can see its fabricated. india lacks primary sources, this is known. now back your position on indias gdp with evidence.
china has tons of primary sources, which is why chinas gdp is more certain, see
Records of the Grand Historian (Sima Qian) Book of Han (Ban Gu) Book of the Later Han (Fan Ye) Records of the Three Kingdoms (Chen Shou) Book of Jin (Fang Xuanling et al.) Book of Song (Shen Yue) Book of Qi (Xiao Zixian) Book of Liang (Yao Silian) Book of Chen (Yao Silian) Book of Wei (Wei Shou) Book of Northern Qi (Li Baiyao) Book of Zhou (Linghu Defen et al.) Book of Sui (Wei Zheng et al.) History of the Southern Dynasties (Li Yanshou) History of the Northern Dynasties (Li Yanshou) Old Book of Tang (Liu Xu et al.) New Book of Tang (Ouyang Xiu, Song Qi et al.) Old History of the Five Dynasties (Xue Juzheng et al.) Historical Records of the Five Dynasties (Ouyang Xiu) History of Song (Toqto'a et al.) History of Liao (Toqto'a et al.) History of Jin (Toqto'a et al.) History of Yuan (Song Lian et al.) History of Ming (Zhang Tingyu et al.)
>china has tons of primary sources, which is why chinas gdp is more certain, see
>ping pong ling long
No one cares.
Another meme graph. Only non-whites use this shit to prove they weren't shitholes once. Except they were because this crap is based mostly not on any hard data but on population estimates.
im not even chinese but this poo trying to fake history is disgusting
>im not even chinese
>fake history
Chinks are experts on that subject.
As fake as the treasure fleet and 140m ships that never existed?
kys chink spambot
Meh.
The simple truth is that Europeans on average have been richers than pretty much anyone in the world since at least 1200.
It doesn't help that Maddison data is completely made up and based on population size. When it comes to per capita data Europeans in the Middle Ages enjoyed a higher standard of living than anyone else, so it's pretty funny how third worlders today show up some meme graphs crying about Europeans stealing their wealth.
>>The simple truth is that Europeans on average have been richers than pretty much anyone in the world since at least 1200.
well your chart certainly doesnt show that. how do you square your richness claim with europe being known as a dark age then?
and in the 1300s europe was devesatated by the black plague. that chart barely shows a dent in whatever its measuring
Dark Ages is a meme. No serious historian believes in it. Dark Ages refer only to a short period after the collapse of Western Roman empire and ends either with Carolingian or Ottonian Renaissance.
meme map, provide a source or frick off
keep in mind these data don't mean much either way. It's not per capita and it's only relative wealth. It only looks good because they have shit ton of people and because rest of the world wasn't doing much better. But the average citizen of those countries was dirt poor
Cool story.
hoe does this disprove what I said?
They weren't "dirt poor". Look at the bottom table. In fact that even obscures how certain regions with more people than France had higher prosperity than much of Europe at the same time (figure 2). As if you lumped in the Netherlands with Ukraine.
India is cope though. They may have been just as rich but there is simply no data.
>They weren't "dirt poor". Look at the bottom table.
Dude, 1400 USD is poor as shit. Fricking Syria is at 2000
>certain regions with more people than France had higher prosperity than much of Europe at the same time (figure 2). As if you lumped in the Netherlands with Ukraine.
Netherlands and Ukraine are not one country, China is. This is just objective analysis, not some dishonest "lumping"
Paris metropolitan are was richer than most of the planet. Are we pretending this is how every European lived?
So basically everyone was dirt poor before the Industrial revolution? I'm not sure it makes sense to focus on that, we're talking relatively. England was at 1.1k, were they really that poor in comparison?
>Netherlands and Ukraine are not one country, China is.
China proper also had like 2x as many people as Europe and the same landmass (Western and Central Europe). It makes little sense to lump rural Chinese in bumfrick central China with the dozen million living in the most active trading hub of the region (yangtze delta). Just like you wouldn't lump dirtpoor rural hohols with enterprising dutch.
Also it's kinda problematic to call massive China a single "country". In that chart it's just for convenience, same for India. They spent most time unified, but notice how everything before 980 and after 1120 (northern Song) and 1600 (Ming) are blank during dynastic transitions.
>average anglo is up to 4x richer then pajeet in 1850, this is before industrialisation even fully took over
>truly india is a superpower
if the POOs has the big economy they claim, where are all their inventions ?
>where are all their inventions ?
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you nerds have been riding this way too long. if indias economy was so great why arent their innovations and inventions at least as numerous as chinas?
moron
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_inventions_and_discoveries
>chinas page
>twice as big in kbs
all ur low effort link pasting did was prove my point
>dick measuring contest
it's literally not even close. Math being arguably the exception, Pajeets have always been quite good at math, i'll admit. But just compare their respective wikis - it's a complete blowout honestly. Keep in mind more than half of India's entries are random shit from like 1971.
In fact, i don't know this for a fact, but i would be willing to bet that there is not a single other people/civilization out there that innovated as much as China PRIOR to the Industrial revolution and rise of European preeminence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_inventions?wprov=sfla1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indian_inventions_and_discoveries?wprov=sfla1
probably the classical world, but china basically set the medieval standard
Unironically Middle East
Middle East and Europe. China overtook the West for a very short period of time after the collapse of the Roman Empire and that's it.
>industrial revolution
Try high middle ages.
Ancient Greece alone had more innovations than all of Chink history
Wikipedia is not a good metric to compare the accomplishments of countries. The Chinese are notoriously obsessed with glorifying and whitewashing China on Wikipedia.
Feels kinda strange to see a post of mine https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12946177/#12946540 copy-pasta'd.
Most of the sources in the references come from Western authors. And impressively at least like 75% of those aren't Needham. There's nothing stopping Indians from adding shit to their wiki page, but there's only shit from like 1980. If that's because Indians weren't that impressive or because of a dearth in sources, who knows?
>these homies unironically flexing by length of wiki articles
Westoids stay undefeated. Sorry chinks.
can you even name a single Indian technological or scientific discovery without opening that link?
powerhouse of philosophy, math, literature. chink and yurpoor math was laggard (yurope progressed fast after the 12th century renaissance, chinks stayed mediocre and were only discovering things indian mathematicians did in 400s in the 1300s). extremley wealthy region, defeated the arabs multiple times, who beat the persians chinks and byzantinoids.
they were also ruled by people who didn’t worship rats and monkeys for the last 800 years
good work fellows. rationality wins again against the eternal pootard trying to mold historical narratives in his turd shaped image
>rationality
>poo in loo, pajeet, do not redeem
.
The problem was the Chinese character system. Having 3,000 characters made movable-type economically infeasible, so they carved out wood blocks to print whole pages. The communist chinese government even considered banning most Chinese characters to make it possible for Chinese typewriters to exist, but then word processing software came along and saved the language.
Westerners had just 30-ish characters to their system. Also if any scientists or intellectuals offended the king they could just flee to a neighboring European country and continue their work. Chinese intellectuals could only flourish with imperial approval.
That, and they effectively dominated the entire region so they had no reason to step the frick up, they could stick with the comfort of traditional systems until westerners came and pushed their shit in
>word processing software came along and saved the language
You mean pinyin or whatever its called? its fricking hilarious that chinks have to type in latin letters that the software then recognizes as chink characters.
>he thinks Chinese zoomers still use keyboards
just lol. you're really, really reaching there.
> That, and they effectively dominated the entire region so they had no reason to step the frick up
>gets stomped by Manchu rednecks
Go leave
The Chinese posters showed that China was fine. If anything threads like these make good conversation and backfire on the OPs.
Ok Zhang.
most in that image is dumb but can you tell more about forced sterilizations? sounds interesting. we americans should give that another try.
Don't be rude. Taiwan proves that Chinamen are fully capable of being somewhat civilised.
Singapore is a better example than Taiwan. A 75% Han Chinese mini-merchant republic that’s so absurdly rich it makes Los Angeles look like Somalia.
Taiwan is a relatively “meh” country with living standards on par with the less developed parts of Europe, like Greece or southern Italy.
lol
will the chinese ever be as cool as the french
nobody wants to be chinese
so how can china gain prestige and influence
how can chinese luxury goods gain prestige, instead of china being known for off brand abibas
im
btw
china defender bc it has a cool history, but when will modern chinese ever be cool?
Chinks are commies and their language sucks. They could've been the next Japan, but that won't happen. Korea was a shithole up until recently and no one gave a shit about it. Now they have soft power rivaling Japan.
>Greece or southern Italy
Still leaps and bounds above the mainland though lol. If Chiang was half the guy Lee Kuan Yew was then Taipei 101 would be a space-elevator.
A vision is coming to me of a variation of The Chart with the Y-axis as Chinese Development and the X-axis as different eras of Chinese History
"THE HOLE LEFT BY THE CULTURAL REVOLUTION (Just think, we could have been exploring the galaxy by now...)"
yeah the guy who needed american help to do anything in ww2 then lost the entire mainland to the communists despite having 5x the numbers after ww2 was going to radically transform chinese society from a feudal agrarian state into le space utopia
Wrong.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12360716/#q12381306
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12388632/#q12388643
To be fair, a lot of places make LA look like Somalia
>nooooo you have to utilize your currency the way anglo-saxons do!!1!
Seethemoar mutt
>y-you're seething!!1!
he says, as he immediately starts spamming his le epic IQfyard memes and crying "mutt" because he's triggered
You're a fricking loser, you know that?
Yeah that’s right you mentally unstable thread-ruining SEAmonkey schizo. Tear your fricking hair out in mindless rage, that’s what I like to see. Little asshurt freak. Squeal louder for my entertainment
is it really that viet psycho? how do you know? and is the viet psycho the india gdp defender?
>is it really that viet psycho? how do you know?
There’s a few things that leads me to believe it’s him.
First of all It’s the middle of the afternoon in east Asia right now.
Second, his *slightly* broken English that characterizes most Asian posters. Posts from East Asians often have competent English, but always sound a little…*off.*
Third of all he left the other Chinese thread about Manchuria for a while and has just returned. Almost as if he was banned for a short time.
So yeah, I’d wager it’s the same indoCHINESE raving Nguyen-schizo that’s been hard at work trying to wreck other Chinese IQfythreads.
>proved he is wrong in that thread
>calls everyone "Nguyen"
>be obsessed with an imaginary enemy
You are the real Schizo.
This post
is completely false and the opposite of reality. The actual Manchu population is far SMALLER than 10 million, the reason "Manchus" are 10 million now is because Han bannermen (Hanjun baqi or ujen coohai) and Han bondservants (baoyi or booi aha) and state bondservants (sinjeku) along with Mongol bannermen get to classifiy themselves as Manchu.
It's the exact opposite of what the dumbass claimed-there are actually millions of Han under the Manchu clasification, not Manchu under the Han classification.
It has nothing to do with who retained Manchu surnames. Plenty of Manchu people who adopted Han surnames like Jin (Aisin Gioro), Wang, Zhao (Irgen Gioro) are under the Manchu classification now.
There were only 5 million Eight Bannermen when the Qing dynasty ended and only a fraction of them were Manchu.
The Eight banners lived in the walled off Inner city of Beijing and in the walled off banner quarters of other cities.
The average Manchu bannerman, if he was in contact with Han, only interacted with Han bannermen and Han bomdservants and was extremely alienated and disconnected from non-Banner Han civilians, hence why Manchus were only able to speak Beijing Mamdarin and completely unable to comprehend the local speech of Ham civilians around their quarters like Xi'an Mandarin, Cantonese, Sichuan Mandarin or Mindong.
That's why Han people were able to slaughter Manchis with a shibboleth test during the Xinhai revolution in Wuhan and other places asking them to pronounce numbers like six six six since they inoy knew Beijing Mandarin. Manchu women also didn't bind their feet at all and wore the liangbatou headress and different clothes from Han women.
Manchu women were raped en masse by Han Chinese while Manchu men were killed.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12163100/#q12163100
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12123252/#q12123252
New material dropped?
i see. i think he switched to phone posting for a new ip based on the image filenames.
was viet schizo known for circular reasoning? like in
. why even try circular logic when no one buys it? is he really so low iq?
i saw circular iq from what i assumed was a poo, but that might even be our beloved nguyen yapping at us.
You have reached your quotas for today posting. Take a little rest, Cheng.
kys amerimongrel
>oh no no no
>someone said China bad, better dump my mutt pics i saved on my mutt phone.
You're wrong. Take your fricking meds.
It's always the same images with you
>Invents the printing press. Just reproduces centuries-old literature with it.
They invented wood block printing, but the printing press was invented in Europe.
>Invents the compass. Never explores the ocean.
Never heard of Zheng He? His voyages are the reason why both the PRC and ROC claim the entirety of the SCS as their own
SCS is pretty much in China's backyard. It's like calling an Englishmen who sailed to Ireland an "explorer"
>hugging the coast
Literally what the Dutch and the Portuguese did during their golden ages also since trade with the locals were sufficient, same with the Ming
IIRC Columbus was not hugging the coast while crossing Atlantic
That's because Columbus was tasked by the Spanish crown to find an alternative route to the "Indies" since the Ottomans were blocking the mediterranian with their navy and the only alternative was the portuguese one which sailed around africa but they charged a fee for any ship that went through that route.
and?
What and? I just told you the reason why Columbus was not hugging the coast when he was trying to reach the "indies" because he was tasked to find an alternative route since the existing route established by the Portuguese (which went through the coast of Africa) already existed. His voyage was thought to be kinda suicidal but the Spanish Kings had plenty of money to spend after conquering the Emirate of Granada and wanted to compete with the portuguese at sea who were getting a lot of money charging european traders going through their route
>What and? I just told you the reason why
I was not asking for reason I was asking how that is relevant. You don't have to give me history lesson on why Columbus sailed West. I brought him up as an counter example to your idea that Europeans also were just hugging the coast.
>So basically everyone was dirt poor before the Industrial revolution?
Exactly.
>I'm not sure it makes sense to focus on that, we're talking relatively
I explained why relative wealth is kind of useless metric. If Somalia had billion people it would have larger economy than Norway. So what?
>China proper also had like 2x as many people as Europe and the same landmass
China is 90% made out of Han Chinese. It makes sense count it as single entity.
> If Somalia had billion people it would have larger economy than Norway
Lmao actually no, it still wouldn't. Which makes your point moot that relative wealth doesn't matter. Somalia has a GDP pc of 309, Norway 50k. China was relatively equal per capita AND had a frick huge population.
>China is 90% made out of Han Chinese. It makes sense count it as single entity.
That's like saying Romans are 90% Roman so it makes sense to count them as a single entity regardless of Britain or Egypt.
>Lmao actually no, it still wouldn't.
Then pick Kenya or some other shithole, it doesn't matter. Relative wealth is not relevant in this conversation.
>That's like saying Romans are 90% Roman
"Roman" isn't actual ethnicity it's just political designation for people living in the area claimed by Roman Empire. Italians were nowhere near 90% of population of their empire
>Then pick Kenya or some other shithole, it doesn't matter. Relative wealth is not relevant in this conversation.
Dude the point is that if you pick some mega shithole and gave it 1 bil people it still would just have the GDP of Norway which is irrelevant worldwide, not 30% of the world economy.
Yeah of course Chinese are better than Kenyans, nobody says otherwise. This was just an example to show you how relative wealth is useless and can be influenced by population size.
Tell me what % of world economy would China have historically if it had population size of Germany.
Much less but that wasn't up for debate. They just weren't "dirt poor" relative to the rest of the world. They only really became so during the Qing when their population quintupled without more productivity.
>They just weren't "dirt poor" relative to the rest of the world.
I'm not saying that. They were only dirt poor to our modern century standards.
Agreed. Gotta mention they were way poorer under Mao than at any point before including even the late Qing. They only recovered during the late 90s arguably.
Not remotely true. In fact, the VOC required use of the Brouwer route by all its pilots, despite it being extremely dangerous, because it halved voyage time.
You are a diaspora brown who is too dumb to even know the history of the place you have parasitically attached yourself to.
man. africa is so fricking huge and never did anything.
Another anti China thread claimed by China effortposters
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>shilling for David duke of all people
Lolwut? Is it 2008? Is he paying you to spam this? I thought all the hip young rayciss zoomers liked Nick Fuentes these days
They hate him because he promote human rights for everyone, including whites and Palestinians.
Too conservative and collectivist. Europeans are more adventurous and individualist.
euroids also go gay way faster. every civilizaiton has its pros and cons
Farmer + Steppe + HG = masters of the world. It's simply how it is.
Chinese - just farmers. It's a civilization of peasants, not warriors.
>Farmer + Steppe + HG = masters of the world. It's simply how it is.
Can you elaborate please? Also who can I read to understand more of this
It's about our genetics. Farmer = civilization, steppe = warrior spirit.
Europeans are descendants of people who built Gbekli Tepe and Catalhoyuk and the greatest warriors in human history, the people who created warrior culture itself. The people who taught this culture to East Asians such as Mongols.
It's why Europeans were able to create civilizations that were very warrior like.
This got a little weird and your model looks really oversimplified. Why did the HG disappear from your model?
What makes you say those people taught the mongols warrior culture? Yayoi and Mongols developed warrior cultures by themselves out of extreme necessity.
Because we don't have that much HG ancestry and it's rather hard to tell what they could bring to our culture.
>Mongols
Indo-Europeans expanded to Mongolia around 3000 BC bringing domesticated animals such as sheep. Indo-Aryans moved there around 2000 BC bringing chariots, horses and more advanced metallurgy.
There's probably a reason why many Xiongnu samples (including the elites) carry Indo-Aryan paternal lineages.
Europeans are the origin of steppe hordes. It's unlikely a society like that would have emerged without their influence.
Yayoi don't and they're far more successful as a relevant warrior and creative civilization.
Your whole theory is kind of moronic ngl bro.
The Xiongnu were crushed by Qin general Meng Tian in their first war with China.
The Xiongnu Chanyu like Qiedihou gave their daughters away to Han generals like Li Ling.
the real issue is China has a feminine, solipsistic turn of mind, due to human biological differences. This is why they had nothing resembling formal mathematics, and were never able to make the precise tools to make advanced machinary. They couldn’t even make ballpoint pens before 2017, because the ball bearings they natively produced were so low quality.
They still made the most accurate estimation of Pi until the 16th century and had blast furnaces first. Also where was nordicks' formal mathematics?
Isolationism is one hell of a drug.
They didn't have any hyporborean Vril to give them a faustian drive towards the infinite. They tried to make do with their off-brand Yang, but it was made in China.
>Invents the printing press. Just reproduces centuries-old literature with it.
It wasn't efficient with Chinese writing characters. We shouldn't underrate the handicap of having an extra-hard writing system.
You need to be good at metallurgy to make good guns
Western Europe was already making the most advanced armor in the 13th century
That Chinkcel spammer is dead, stop summoning him.
he is forever, like q anon
It's an Arab butthurt that the Arab rape pastas are the top 9 most posted images on IQfy. He's trying to get his spam to over 1000 posts.
He stopped posting the other pasta because the tbharchive mod banned it lmao.
https://www.ijhssi.org/papers/vol7(3)/Version-3/G0703033642.pdf
>Iraq is the country greatly affected by Turkish terms. The dialect of Iraq during the previous centuries was influenced by the Persian, English, Sumerian and Turkish languages. Iraq, like all other Arab countries, has its own dialects which are almost identical.
Iraqi Arab prostitutes services white men in Jordan. Allahu Akbar. Allah has decreed this. الحمدلله على كل حال. الحمدلله على كل شيء.
https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/news/a1810/iraqi-refugees-prostitutes-sex/
>The crowning irony among many of the women I met: Their best clients in Amman are American and European military personnel and contractors — the same sort of men they had worked for as translators and fixers. Now they are servicing them in a different way altogether.
>Samara is a 23-year-old from the Diyala province in eastern Iraq. She spends several nights a week at the Cottage (or the disco at the Holiday Inn, or the Hyatt) to make enough money to last a few days. She wears short skirts, drinks, smokes, flirts.
>Later, as she sits on the edge of the coffee table in my hotel room, it's hard to picture her as a nightclub denizen. She has long, dark hair and a round face that barely moves when she talks — her eyebrows don't furrow; her chin never stiffens. She is almost completely still, except for when she drops her head and stares at her lap. She explains that since she moved to Amman in 2006, she has slept with "British men, Americans, Egyptians, Saudis, Jordanians. God knows how many." She has been pregnant, and sold a thin gold necklace, her only piece of israeliteelry, to pay for the abortion. "I love children," she says. "I would love to have children someday."
Timur died while he was on his way to China and he never managed to invade China.
Timur i Lang (Tamerlame) invaded the Middle East after his invasion of India. He slaughtered, tortured and raped his own co-religionist Sunni Muslims across Iraq and Syria. Timur's Tatar (Turco-Mongol Central Asian) Sunni soldiers gang raped Sunni Arab women and virgins girls of Iraq and Syria in their own mosques.
This is the story of horror that the Turco Mongol conqueror Timur inflicted upon the Sunni Muslim Arabs of Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. His soldiers gang raped girls while their brothers and fathers were tortured and forced to watch in the mosques.
https://archive.is/IJQD0
https://web.archive.org/web/20210908183250/https://justpaste
.it/2kj98
They say the descendants of his Turco-Mongol soldiers are found among the Sunni Arab populations of those places today due to the amount of virgin girls that were violated. Iraqi Arabs are the rape children of Timur.
All Arab women were violated and raped by Turks, Mongols, Ethiopians, Persians, Armenians etc.
anyone know where wumaos or history experts of chinese descent post?
on chinese internet. most of the really smart people know to keep their conversations private, especially those from singapore and malaysia, who are elite and private
What makes them elite?
they have a british accent instead of singapore accent
money, intelligence, looks, height, knowing both languages of the worlds current superpowers, being able to tap into the enormous markets of each
their ugliness. Seriously Singaporean billionaires are fricking ugly, picrel is the richest one
arent all billionaires ugly
any on english based internet? chinese internet doesn't let you make accounts and it'd be annoying having to google translate everything anyway
probably some subreddit but you can imagine troony commies mean theyd just make discord groups and keep riffraff out. ive never looked that far
i agree it would probably be a positive experience. the chinese are generally polite and have excellent takes on history
>troony commies
troony commie jannies
yeah, guess i'll have a look on le reddit, thanks
>*Builds the largest asian warship since Yamato*
cool. whats the name?
Fujian
>sail for 10 minutes
>sink
sorry guy this isnt angloid troony-mutt engineering we're talking about
Well at least they didn't crash into a civilian cargo ship
Cope
It's currently docked and finishing the installation of EMALS catapults, which makes It the only other Aircraft Carrier with EMALS alongside the USS Ford.
With EMALS the chinese naval aviation will be the heaviest and longest range in service thanks to the soviets Su-27K/Su-33 (now chinese J-15) which were designed to face the US F-14 back in the cold war but were restricted in payload and combat range by their STOBAR carriers.
>builds useless piece of junk because the us has it
It’s not just within the context of the US having them. With this thing the Chinese navy essentially is a step above every single other Asian navy except Japan’s power projection.
This one carrier won’t do much against the US’s dozen carriers, but it sure mogs the shit out of the Philippines’ or Vietnam’s or india’s navies. In that sense it has potential
power projection was a thing before missiles, china is in range of every asian country without the need for a carrier, they're a useless relic and for the chinese to 1. built it 2. celebrate it like it's an achievement and not colossal waste of time shows they're hopeless automatons
Should have told Saddam about this that all the coalition planes and aicraft carriers were sitting ducks because he had access to SAMs and Anti-ship missiles
>completely broken and tiny Iraq is the same as India, Japan, Russia etc
There's several reasons why the US has never dared touch Iran or NK despite its warmongering political elite wanting to.
Because Iran is not Arab.
India, Japan and Russia are invulnerable to SEAD/DEAD and EW?
No, I just disagree with his meme webm of bullying arabs being fitting here. A similar US bombing campaign of just Belarus supported by Russia would likely end in a high casualty embarrassment.
>china is in range of every asian country without the need for a carrier, they're a useless relic
Carriers get em there faster. China’s also got big plans for naval bases on the outer rim of the Oceanic island clusters. Or what if China decided to expand its bases in east Africa a little with air capabilities? How would one ship all those planes over?
Aside from the obvious propaganda value you mentioned, I’m sure the superpowers will always find something to do with their carriers. If not, I’m sure China will decommission it-after the US decides they’re useless and sets an example to the world by decommissioning theirs, of course
>hopeless automatons
Copity cope, muttcel.
Aircraft Carriers are still going to be useful in the near future since AWACS planes can't take off from destroyers, and without them all warships within a fleet are blind and can easily be taken out by anti-ship missiles (see the Moskava).
So even with the advent of hypersonic anti-ship missiles you'll still need a warship that can carry planes or maybe drones that can do that AEW&C work, which is why China is also developing a cheaper & lighter assault carrier that can be built in large numbers to complement the supercarriers such the Type 003 Fujian
just like the tank has become useless and a glorified apc carriers are glorified aircraft transportation vehicle
People have been saying that the age of tanks were over since WW2 because of the introduction of HEAT rounds and Panzerfaust that would just burn through armor, later the first handheld ATGMs, then the laser guided ATGMs, then the attack helicopters who could fire those same ATGMs from above wiping out any tank. Yet no armies have abandoned nor have plans to disband their heavy armored divisions.
And thinking like yours have existed since ancient times when talking about cavalry, why spend so much resources breeding horses when a dudes holding a long stick can kill your expensive cavalry? But this argument went on and on until cavalry outlived pikemen, spearmen, archers up until WW1 and early stages of WW2 when cavalry were replaced by armored vehicles and tanks. So until we can find an a vehicle or anything that can fulfill the job of a tank (mobile armored firepower), they'll still be around on the battlefield
>Invents the compass. Never explores the ocean.
because they had multiple frontiers on land which were tried and true avenues for expansion? hell much of the frontier territory on OP's map wasn't "chinese" until the manchus
>Invents the printing press. Just reproduces centuries-old literature with it.
I know this is a bait thread but what moronation is this? the most famous Chinese novels weren't even written until the Ming/Qing dynasties
its just a moronic angloid mutt (this can include even india nationals) being scared of china as usual
Why is it so easy to trigger the chinks?
They used to be more reasonable, but I think they got mind broken back in 2018 when Xi Jinping got rid of his term limit. I remember it well. The Chinese were legitimately terrified. Even the losers at r/Sino were scared shitless. Deep down they know that China is fricked. When you're scared and frustrated, you lash out.
Why is it so impossible for mutts to not speak like children?
Why is it impossible for indians to use the loo instead of their streets
it's the sharting, it reaches their brain
They lack the Faustian spirit of the white man. Asians are intelligent but low testosterone. Whites have the right balance between intelligence and testosterone.
>Asians are intelligent but low testosterone.
No, moron. They also mog you in terms of spatial vs verbal IQ
if they're so high IQ why are they the slave labor of the world? Didn't think so.
Why did anglos use child labor if they're so humane and smart?
not their child, not their problem, their profit
Smartest anti china poster
I meant the british industrial revolution dumbass
who cares, chinese are the slave labor now
low iq and low test angloid
way to run scared from a strong smart chinese
>strong smart chinese
>Invents the compass.
>Invents the printing press
Both of those are Chinese lies.
Whose lies? PRC or ROC?
Compass was invented in China, any mechanical magnetic device that points north is a compass no matter how simple.
Chinese invented printing and movable type printing.
Gutenberg put it in a screw press device.
I just scrolled through this thread.
Am I wrong in thinking that there's a Chink having some kind of spergout?
>population bulged
>machine manifests to control said population
>over time it selective breeds less barbarous adventuring types
>also prevents invention in warfare techniques, that is why while China invented gunpowder for alchemical purposes, the west dominated in perfecting the gun and cannon and why it's influence may have contributed to it's innovation with engines
This is why most of China's expansion happens after periods of division and turmoil.
This is also why the west and to a degree, Japan, industrialised and expanded so much more.
Basically, being unified and controlled by a savage aristocracy made any of the things that western powers did rather unnecessary.
The use of paper notes may have diminished the obsessive need of the state for expansion to find more gold too. This is why when the west became less and less gold obsessed, it also became less and less expansionist. The debt-leverage system was now in play.
China invented cannon, rockets and handgonnes (hand cannon) and Japan invented zero things until after getting nuked twice.
holy shit chinese spammer is back from the dead
or someone is dedicated to spamming for him
they didn't even invent the printing press, their version was a shitty primitive one far inferior to the ones the protestants made
how many of these posts are westoids/angloids false flagging as different sides for their favorite foreign country like china or india
Why'd you want anything more when you already have everything you need?
Then why did chinks leave their shithole for Canada?
Poor peasants don't decide whether the country sets out to trade or not, or innovates or not.
this is correct in some sense but it falls apart since chinas government knew about foreign technology but did not consider it a serious threat. one province getting battered could have been a wake up call, but china fell like dominoes.
many chinese canadians are wealthy. the real question is how else were they going to colonize some of the best land in the world?
The East sees time as cyclical. The Western Faustian man sees time in terms of progress towards infinity. Fundamentally different world views.
Huang Chao genocided Arabs in Guangzhou.
jesus christ you are chinese spammer arent you
why were you gone for so long, were you banned?
The Kang... He is come...
he is risen to redeem us, he will never fade away, he will never die...
Spirals.
They were actually the stronger country iny the world til 1820s onwards. They didn't industrialized with the west. A hubris they shouldn't fall for again.
h*ncel cope over south Asia being more historically relevant is delicious
Changs tongue my anus.
frick mutts
I bet one of these chink shills is that Portugal flag guy on /misc/.
My great grandparents on one side were born in the 1870s and the other side in the 1880s and I'm not old at all, I'm in my twenties. This is what happens when your grandparents and parents get it on late or in my case, your parents are among the last children of several children, and also in my case, my polygamous great-great grandfather on one side had multiple wives at the same time since he wasn't in the west and one was way younger, (we are all from polygamists at some point in history because they were legal at some point in history). And of course I never got to meet my great-grandparents, if they had lived they would have been around 130 years old by the time I started remembering things. My parents did it late for me and they were both among the last of their siblings to be born since they had lots of kids back then.
Most of my peers great-grandparents were born decades into the 20th century. If my great-grandparents, grandparents and parents did their thing at the normal age for their time, I would be in my fifties, or seventies or even nineties instead right now.
And its funny being raised by old people when all of my peers parents were in their twenties when they did it unlike mine. I read somewhere sperm and ova degrade genetically over time and people have a higher chance of schizophrenia if their parents were in their forties when they had them. I hope that doesn't happen to me. And children born to mothers in their 40s have a greater chance of getting down syndrome which I thankfully did not get.
If I was a sadist and wanted to stretch the family line even further and wait for even more genetic degradation I would wait until my 70s and marry a forty year old... But I'm not a sadist. It is sadistic and very funny at the same time for parents to do this to their children. You don't ever get to meet your great-grandparents, your grandparents are geriatric and extremely old, your parents are so out of touch with everyone elses' parents. You have first cousins in their forties and fifties when you are a child and uncles in their 60s and 70s. I have second cousins whose children were fully grown adults when I was a little child, but they have to call me uncle if they ever bothered to meet me because my generation is senior to theirs.
If I don't become a schizophrenic when I'm older I have no regrets about being born this late. I can live further into the future than the people whom I "would" have been born with. If my parents, grandparents and great grandparents were sequentially always born as the first child instead of middle or last child of multiple children, and all of them did "it" for their first child in their late teens or twenties like was normal for their time instead of my parents waiting to their forties, and my great-great-grandfather was not a polygamist with younger wives, I probably "would" have been born in the 1920s-1940s and I'd be in a hospital bed waiting to slowly die. So here I am either to grace or annoy with my presence being born so late.
https://desuarchive.org/his/search/image/bS072KmfzHGpDbQXa5T7-g/
https://archived.moe/his/search/image/bS072KmfzHGpDbQXa5T7-g/
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This is an Iraqi Sunni Muslim paedophile in Sweden samegayging, descended from 1000 years of rape by Turco Mongols.
His accounts were AntiMajoosUnit on Twitter, suphamsulu on incels.me and reddit, forgotten4ever and MyDolores and Uracil_Goblin on reddit and orgasm123456789 on the runescape forum powerbot.
Muslim Sunnis can't curse Aisha, Hafsa, Abu Bakr, Umar and Uthman but Shia Muslims can. Ask this Iraqi Sunni Arab paedophile to curse them when you see him.
What are the chances that everyone responding to the post is a Sunni paedophile?
Are Arabs human?
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10113888#p10115870
https://yuki.la/his/10113888#p10115870
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7942563/#q7942563
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7942578/#q7944715
The Arab's hate posts against Europeans, Indians, Russians.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/7717889/#q7726026
The Arab also insulted Vietnam as a rape garden.
Shia Muslims and Middle Eastern Christians all recognized this Iraqi Sunni Muslim Arab pedophile's accounts on twitter when he was exposed. That Jordanian Christian AbuUrdon and Shia AnarchioKhomeini were harassed by this pedophile for a long time under his AntiMajoosUnit account.
https://archive.li/l7DYN
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12166682/#q12175904
Manchu families adopted Han Chinese sons from families of bondservant Booi Aha (baoyi) origin and they served in Manchu company registers as detached household Manchus and the Qing imperial court found this out in 1729. Manchu Bannermen who needed money helped falsify registration for Han Chinese servants being adopted into the Manchu banners and Manchu families who lacked sons were allowed to adopt their servant's sons or servants themselves.[145] The Manchu families were paid to adopt Han Chinese sons from bondservant families by those families. The Qing Imperial Guard captain Batu was furious at the Manchus who adopted Han Chinese as their sons from slave and bondservant families in exchange for money and expressed his displeasure at them adopting Han Chinese instead of other Manchus.[146]
These Han Chinese who infiltrated the Manchu Banners by adoption were known as "secondary-status bannermen" and "false Manchus" or "separate-register Manchus", and there were eventually so many of these Han Chinese that they took over military positions in the Banners which should have been reserved for Manchus. Han Chinese foster-son and separate register bannermen made up 800 out of 1,600 soldiers of the Mongol Banners and Manchu Banners of Hangzhou in 1740 which was nearly 50%. Han Chinese foster-son made up 220 out of 1,600 unsalaried troops at Jingzhou in 1747 and an assortment of Han Chinese separate-register, Mongol, and Manchu bannermen were the remainder. Han Chinese secondary status bannermen made up 180 of 3,600 troop households in Ningxia while Han Chinese separate registers made up 380 out of 2,700 Manchu soldiers in Liangzhou. The result of these Han Chinese fake Manchus taking up military positions resulted in many legitimate Manchus being deprived of their rightful positions as soldiers in the Banner armies, resulting in the real Manchus unable to receive their salaries as Han Chinese infiltrators in the banners stole their social and economic status and rights. These Han Chinese infiltrators were said to be good military troops and their skills at marching and archery were up to par so that the Zhapu lieutenant general couldn't differentiate them from true Manchus in terms of military skills.[147] Manchu Banners contained a lot of "false Manchus" who were from Han Chinese civilian families but were adopted by Manchu bannermen after the Yongzheng reign. The Jingkou and Jiangning Mongol banners and Manchu Banners had 1,795 adopted Han Chinese and the Beijing Mongol Banners and Manchu Banners had 2,400 adopted Han Chinese in statistics taken from the 1821 census. Despite Qing attempts to differentiate adopted Han Chinese from normal Manchu bannermen the differences between them became hazy.[148]
These adopted Han Chinese bondservants who managed to get themselves onto Manchu banner roles were called kaihu ren (開戶人) in Chinese and dangse faksalaha urse in Manchu. Normal Manchus were called jingkini Manjusa.
A Manchu Bannerman in Guangzhou called Hequan illegally adopted a Han Chinese named Zhao Tinglu, the son of former Han bannerman Zhao Quan, and gave him a new name, Quanheng in order that he be able to benefit from his adopted son receiving a salary as a Banner soldier.[149]