St. Patrick was an Orthodox Christian
The British Isles (Great Britain and Ireland) were historically Orthodox.
It wasn't until 1066 when the Roman Catholic sect was established in Great Britain during the Norman conquests.
Ireland remained Orthodox until 1072 when the Norman imposed Archbishop of Cantebury, Lanfranc of Canterbury (loyal to the Roman papacy), claimed hegemony over the Irish Church.
Finally the Anglo-Norman invasion in 1170 brought an end to Orthodoxy in Ireland and the Roman Catholic sect was put in the place of the true apostolic faith.
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Closer to Miaphysites than eastern Orthodox. They had contact with the Egyptian church, and even attribute monastic traditions to Coptic monks who sailed from there.
There's no evidence of that. The Miaphysites didn't even try to establish a church there until the 20th century. Ireland was always faithful to the Orthodox Chalcedonian faith.
It's true though. IIRC there were seven Coptic monks who went to Ireland. They might have been fleeing Justinian's persecution.
>In 2006 the discovery of an ancient book in a bog in County Tipperary, Ireland sparked an exciting debate. The book, Egyptian in style and with pages made of papyrus, lends credence to an ancient story which tells of a visit to Ireland by ‘seven monks of Egypt.’ In an early ‘Litany of Irish Liturgy,’ Oengas of Tallaght, mentions the burial of seven Egyptian monks in County Antrim. Another early literary source, the ‘Stowe Missal’ (c750) mentions the desert monks and in particular, Anthony of Egypt. There is a manuscript, written sometime in the eight century and kept in the British Library (Nero A11), London, which puts forth the theory that the desert monks of Egypt greatly influenced the behavior and lifestyles of the Irish monks. Author and historian, Archdale King, writes that “firsthand knowledge of the Desert monks was brought to southern Gaul by St. John Cassian and that links between the Irish and Egyptian monks were particularly strong at this time.”
The Christian monastic tradition began in Egypt. And it spread from there too, one of the places it eventually reached was Ireland.
You do realize Egypt has always had an Orthodox primate, right? The Coptic sect is not the Egyptian Church.
Hmm, see their wikipedia page says that the Coptic Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria dates to 42 AD and was founded by St. Mark.
But really you're saying that after Justinian banned them then the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Alexandria and all Africa took over, right? But they were only a tiny minority of the church in Alexandria, most of that church fell in with the Copts and told Justinian to kick sand.
So both groups descend from St. Mark.
Their bishops do not have apostolic succession as their rites do not confer grace.
Why not?
Because they are not Orthodox and are not part of the Church Jesus founded which is the Orthodox Church.
Orthodogs/Melkites are so fricking moronic, holy shit.
Crypto-pagan Byzaboo greco-slavoids will never be the true apostolic Church, deal with it.
What does the word "Copt" mean, then?
If they did, how did they harmonize their Christian beliefs with their beliefs about the Tuatha Dé Danann?
Schizophrenia
They were not orthodox since they were not palamites
John Scotus Eriugena is probably one of the last major theologian that presented some form of EED in the west. He translated and commented upon the dyonisean corpus, the principal texts on EED, and heavily used the greek fathers. He rejected the filioque at the frankish court, his anthropology, salvation model and other things are in harmony with greeks. Only thing deficient was his view of EED in some aspects in his system.
https://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2019/11/an-orthodox-evaluation-of-certain.html?m=1
Why does God make it so hard to be a proper Christian? I work long hours, I don't have time to go back and forth in between all these arguments between denominations, will only scholars be saved and I'll be sent to hell for not getting the faith 100% correctly?
I really need an answer for this I'm having trouble sleeping, the stress of not being in the correct church is killing me.
Why do Orthodox wewuzz as much as Muslims?
Thoughts on the Celtic Orthodox Church?
Irrelevant LARPers.
>Danyel founded the Abbaye de la Saint Présence at Bois-Juhel, Saint-Dolay, "where he lived as an hermit in emulation of the ancient Celtic monks".
>On 19 December 1959, Danyel proclaimed himself metropolitan under the title Tugdual I, Archbishop of Dôl. Danyel "revived Druidic rites" and added to his title "Sa Blancheur l'Humble" ("His Whiteness the Humble") which he claimed was of Druidic origin. His full title was therefore: "His Whiteness the Humble Tugdual I, Archbishop of Dôl, Abbot of Saint-Dolay, Kayermo and Keroussek, primate of the Holy Celtic Church, President of all the non-Roman Christian and Apostolic Churches".[1]
Holy mother of larp...
There's no good reason to act this way. Be someone Columba would be proud of or be nothing.
If this isn't clear Byzantine influence I don't know what is.
Alright I'll bite, what "Byzantine influence" do your schizo eyes see? Eagles?
The Supertunica, for example, was adopted by the British monarchs directly from the Byzantines in emulation. We can see the obvious Orthodox influence on Celtic Christian life here.
DUAL WIELD
Orthodoxy didn't even exist when St Patrick was alive
Catholic and Orthodox weren't separate until 1054.
Christians in Ireland at that time believed that the Irish had a separate covenant with Yahweh because they were descended from immortal Aryan wizardkings who were an entirely separate entity within creation. The actual religiosity of Gaelic Ireland has been dead for centuries and roleplaying on the internet as if you were a 12-century eunuch in Byzantium has nothing to do with the religion of the Irish at the time.
why are there republic of ireland flags everywhere if it is a day about a catholic saint (which the irish kidnapped)? if it were about ireland - the continent and its peoples as a whole, wouldn't it also be appropriate to also put up union jacks to represent the north? it obviously isn't a day about catholics, because a lot of irish have extreme resentment toward catholic institutions and even legalized abortion.
it just seems like a day for irish nationalism (drinking) under the guise of 'catholicism' whilst speaking english, given a democracy and having their currency administrated by the eu whilst blaming all issues on the english.
I simply do not understand the purpose of it aside from the mindless surface level consoomerist aspects of selling green products and alcohol.
>I simply do not understand the purpose of it
Celebrating Irish heritage and folk customs, duh. We can't just call it "Irish Ethnos Day" because the israelites would throw a hissyfit, and we can't call it "Tuatha Day" because the Christgays would throw a fit. So we have to do this pussy footing around because no one is allowed to have serious nations anymore.
>if it were about ireland - the continent and its peoples as a whole, wouldn't it also be appropriate to also put up union jacks to represent the north?
No, because that's an illegitimate occupation.
wdym?
they are irish.
I mean that Britain's occupation of the six counties in the north is not legitimate.
so what about the irish in NI who don't view it as an occupation - are they magically not irish then?
Can people not have stupid opinions about the politics of their own country?
you got blown out and don't have an answer (i'm lmao'ing @ you)
>patron saint of Ireland
>teaches them modalism making the entire country heretical
>gets rid of their pet snakes
>writes himself into their mythology
why do they like this guy so much?
Ireland has always been faithful to the Trinity unlike the Germanics.
thats moronic, why do orthodogs try to steal from western catholic accomplishments?
Orthobros are just modern orientalists. Orthobros let the hate of the Catholic church and "the west" get to them. A lot of their attacks seem to fall in line with Russian interests and Eurasianism. Frick off.
ITT:
>WHY DON'T NORMIES OBSESS OVER THE MINUTIA OF MEDIEVAL RELIGIOUS CONFLICTS REEEEEE
morons.
>orthodox
WE WUZ IRISH N' SHEEEIT
Saint Patrick was a Latin-speaking Roman noble, the grandson of a Catholic priest; he was a man who had repeated private revelations, practiced penance (a very Catholic thing), spent two decades as a monk, was ordained a priest, was sent to serve on the papal mission to Ireland, was ordained bishop by a papal representative, and had his fidelity to Catholic teaching specially confirmed by Pope Leo the Great (of whom the fathers of the Council of Chalcedon cried, “Peter has spoken through Leo!”). Patrick described himself as a Catholic, and a list of canons he drew up for the Church in Ireland commanded that any dispute not resolved on a local level was to be forwarded to Rome for decision.
>It wasn't until 1066 when the Roman Catholic sect was established in Great Britain during the Norman conquests.
Edward the Elder was actively engaged with Papal reform and Edgar would ask for Papal assistance and reformed the monasteries to follow Continental standards. Edward the Confessor dealt with Papal officals in his court and all of them tried to win legitimacy for their bishops by reciving Papal approval with the rod of office and even deposed bishops who didn't recieve it. Anglo Saxon England was deeply involved with Rome and clearly followed the cultrual and political norms as the rest of the western part of the continent did unlike Byzantium.
I'm not even Catholic and I can smell the bullshit. I swear Orthobros make the worst armchair historians, among us.
What if he was was a part of the church of England and the Archbishop of Canterbury had religious control over Britain and it was a historical see????
Pretty stupid to call RC a “sect” since it’s universal.
For a church to be a universal it is not enough to call it so.
Correct. A universal church is one which aims to be all-encompassing, seeking to bridge differences and bring diverse peoples together under a common faith. In contrast, sects focus on particular interpretations or practices that set it apart. Ask yourself which description better corresponds to Orthodoxy and which better corresponds to Catholicism.
>The British Isles