AdGuard on iPad/Mac, it's far from perfect but together with Safari doing a lot work automatically, it makes the experience close to uBlock on Windows. On iPhone I don't even bother since I just read the same few news sites there that don't have obnoxious shit.
>can't even use addons on Firefox in iOS
every browser on iOS is just a safari skin, you cant release another web engine on it
2 weeks ago
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t. non-EU-chud
2 weeks ago
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Isn't it more precisely that you can't do jit and only apple can do it so safari javascript engine will always be the fastest so everybody uses it? but that doesn't prevent a browser from supporting adblockers
Not much of use from your desktop when you're traveling, in best case you're reliant on perfect interwebz. I was rather thinking about music though. Then add the actual work, Logic is over 90gb naked, and smaller shit like PS tends to build upon the frickloads of files you already have.
The issue is not selling a machine with 8GB of RAM but rather how much extra they charge for a reasonable amount.
Apple charges more than double what Samsung does per TB of storage, and their RAM is similarly insanely expensive.
that's completely intentional and a common tactic in order to be able to advertise with a lower "from" price
that is, offer a considerably cheaper, but useless-for-most-people option, then you can claim that as the minimum cost of the product. the idea is to make your real profit on the upsell to the more reasonable options
the 8GB macbook "pro" is the bait, the version to make macbooks seem more affordable, it's not the one they want you to actually buy
My Core 2 Duo running Windows XP had 8GB RAM. Enough for basic tasks? Maybe. Acceptable? Fricking hell no, you're a moron if you buy Apple's overpriced shit.
I have a m1 mini with 8/256 and it's been fine for the 3.5 years I've had it. It's always on, transmission with ~2k torrents is always running, Firefox with ~30 tabs is always running, plus music.app with a 1.5tb library and the occasional music and video transcoding, daily Remote Desktop, terminals and emacs.
not her, but transmission is top-tier. transmission-daemon + stig is as good as it gets.
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+1, I run it as well and it's speedy as anything. tried some other clients when people said that there were faster options and after testing they seemed to be talking out of their ass
It depends on what you want to do, and keep in mind that if at some point you need more ram you wont be able to upgrade it, so i wouldn't recommend it.
And don't fall for the 8gb on mac is equivalent to 999,999gb on pc meme, it's not, I have 16gb on my mac mini and some times is not enough for some tasks.
you're not a basic user then (neither am I, which is why mine has 36) but my parents have an 8gb one and they use it just fine for basic photo editing, work, emails etc. whereas their previous i7 toshiba thing had 16gb struggled to do any of that stuff
it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows purely from windows' heavy use (especially with 11, jesus what is that thing doing) just existing, which is baffling
2 weeks ago
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>it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows
Exhibit A of why Apple is a major market presence. Imagine simping for a marketing claim that's so absurd that I'm surprised it isn't illegal to make.
2 weeks ago
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I'm not simping, I had doubts as well but I gave first hand source information for an 8gb mac being absolutely fine for a lot of users (
you're not a basic user then (neither am I, which is why mine has 36) but my parents have an 8gb one and they use it just fine for basic photo editing, work, emails etc. whereas their previous i7 toshiba thing had 16gb struggled to do any of that stuff
it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows purely from windows' heavy use (especially with 11, jesus what is that thing doing) just existing, which is baffling
) and have seen plenty of my friends say they deal with 8gb just fine as well (which I realise is anecdotal evidence, but I stand by it, you don't have to believe me)
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Yes, 8 is plenty for casual users. It's plenty on Windows as well, but the cheaper computers casual users tend to buy tend to be hamstrung across the board hardware-wise, which makes 8 feel even worse there. But your anecdotes remain just that, whereas you will never be able to show numbers supporting that 8 on Mac is equivalent to 16 on Windows. That's what I'm saying.
2 weeks ago
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>11, jesus what is that thing doing
rendering its UI via electron
And obviously android studio + emulator + previews,
Working with high res images with layers.
If you end in a meeting at the same time, or just want to have the docs open in the browser you're fricked.
Even if you don't develop you can easily reach 8gb by hoarding some tabs (they'll be discarded and have to be reloaded)
For normal web browsing it's ok, but there's cheaper options.
you're not a basic user then (neither am I, which is why mine has 36) but my parents have an 8gb one and they use it just fine for basic photo editing, work, emails etc. whereas their previous i7 toshiba thing had 16gb struggled to do any of that stuff
it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows purely from windows' heavy use (especially with 11, jesus what is that thing doing) just existing, which is baffling
If it was windows probably something happened to it, lack of some driver, fricked installation or something (windows tends to get slower over time). In my previous mini (intel) using the exact same hardware macOS and windows didn't really have any noticeable difference on performance (gpu tests were slightly better on windows iirc but not by much)
>cheaper options
judging by the amount of time I recently spent at my grandparents' fixing onedrive crashing, outlook forcing itself to update to a version that doesn't support their ISP email, and office demanding paid upgrades that they don't need
what I could have saved by buying my parents a windows laptop I would have wasted in tech support (ie me)
they're super happy with the laptop and I would not wish windows' current obnoxious state on anyone. maybe if I could trust them with a version of 7
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I'm grateful my father uses mint, he got used to it almost instantly and has had no problems with it so far, I still have a partition with windows 10 but it will be the last windows I'll ever use I spent almost all my free time on arch+kde already and even for work when I'm not using xCode on macOS.
Not gonna miss windows, they seem hell bent to add more ads to it and they're even using the diagnostic data to personalize them frick it.
I use an 8GB M1 for heavy browsing (with Chrome) and some dev work (building a React Native app for iOS, though most of the work on that app happens on a Windows desktop). It works perfectly.
Now, there ARE certain things I haven't even tried because I know 8GB isn't going to be enough for them. VMs and Android Studio come to mind. But those are specialist use cases.
I think it's fair to say that 8GB is fine for the vast majority of people. Of those who need more, most will be well aware of that fact upfront.
I've figured out how to bypass the force updater they rootkitted my laptop with, so I've been able to go months when they normally b***h at me every two weeks or so. It's like they don't understand how nerds operate, fake tech homosexuals
It would take 10 years of continuous heavy swap file writing before seeing any degredation >source: https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/hardware/ssd-lifespan-how-long-will-your-ssd-work/ apple nand chips have a 150 tbw so with an average of 40gb/day writing equals 10 years
2 weeks ago
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>40gb/day
Anon, it isn't just only 40gb/day, that's the point, if the moron who bought it wants to get into video production for some reason and edits videos every day, that would be far more than just 40gb, and the only reason to buy a mac is literally adobe and music production.
2 weeks ago
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>the only reason to buy a mac is literally adobe and music production
adobe's fine on a windows machine, it's not even better on a mac like it debateably used to be. music's a different beast, admittedly lmo still better on a mac but also very fine on windows
don't be obnoxious, there's plenty of good reasons to buy a mac
and anyway, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any more reports of SSD failure on macs vs windows, and the ones that there are for both platforms are small, so it's a moot point
2 weeks ago
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>I can tell there hasn't been any more reports of SSD failure on macs vs windows
ssd fails on pc, buy another ssd for 60$
ssd fails on a mac, buy another mac for 1500$
2 weeks ago
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how's the battery life on the machine where you can replace an SSD for $60
oh that's right, it's a desktop
2 weeks ago
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I'd trade a couple hours of battery life for upgradeable hardware every day, most people don't need to work away from a power outlet during 10 hours.
2 weeks ago
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>how's the battery life on the machine where you can replace an SSD for $60
You can also replace the battery on that machine with a much better one.
2 weeks ago
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>oh that's right, it's a desktop
What are you even smoking?
You can replace the ssd on almost every laptop on the market, hell, there's a frickton that even have two slots and upgradeable RAM too.
If you want battery life, you really shouldn't even be using a battery to begin with because it will never ever be enough.
2 weeks ago
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>If you want battery life, you really shouldn't even be using a battery to begin with because it will never ever be enough.
holy fricking cope
2 weeks ago
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>Oy vey lemme go to my job, chargerless and spend all day compiling code for my work >Now the amazing all day, 8 hours of use battery, can't even last me 3 hours of use
WOW dude, amazing battery life, bro.
2 weeks ago
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My 800€, 1.07kg x86/64 laptop has no problems lasting 8-10 hours and has a replacable SSD
2 weeks ago
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Consider that macOS rapes the SSD a lot more than other OSes
I dare all macgays ITT to post TBW >10 years
Realistically you won't keep it that long but it's still pathetic. Anything else in that price range should go on working for decades. But macs are not built very well, this is known.
2 weeks ago
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>this is known
What is this Elon-level moronic comment
2 weeks ago
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at least one documented common design flaw per every other generation
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>other
Not even that, they're releasing at least one fatal failure every single generation, and most of the time they literally carry the issue to the next one.
4GB RAM on my Chromebook, works completely fine.
It's almost as fast at browsing as my 5900X Ryzen desktop because it's not running a bloated piece of shit operating system. Boots in like 3 seconds.
8GB of memory was already hilariously bad 7 years ago
nowadays is just completely insane considering the base memory requirements of even the most basic programs
with their high resolution displays and integrated gpu, 1 tab of an intense multimedia page can take a whole GB.
With WUXGA it's probably a bad idea to have less than 16GB because the images/videos simply browsing will take up that much more memory.
If resolution is only 1366x768 or 1600x900 or something then tabs take a few 100MB and 8GB works, even 4GB can work.
However 99% of the users who think they need 32GB or more don't need it. You really need cache that's why the browser bogs down quick scrolling hd videos high res photos. .
See the problem is not the 8gb on macOS
The problem is realizing that macOS by itself doesn't have some software worth a shit so you need to use Parallels or VMWare because you wanted to spend over $1k on a fricking smartphone processor for that extra battery life and that eats RAM
besides gaymen when else should my $2300 macbook air do? I have a proper winblows desktop for games. once steam deck or playstation ever adopts a free online service again I'll ditch windows entirely. ill be goddamned if I ever pay to online game
I run open source *nix apps on the regular, I run retroarch for roms so I do game on my macbook with 90's shit
windows is dead
consoles are (them'd)
anyone making more than $70k a year runs macos and ios, it just werks
because I can use yt-dl, retroarch and firefox which are all open source and be smug about it on a closed source hardware brand? i guess, dont know or care. all im saying is windows is dead and so is x86_64 architecture
arm is the future
poors mad
anyways buy a 16/512, anything else is wasted money unless you're a power user and you think $2k is alot of money lmao
I spend more on property taxes and insurance in a year than on my hobbies
I bought a Thinkpad P1 for that amount of money with 4TB of space and 128 GB of RAM and a dedicated GPU. You must be genuinely moronic if you think a glorified fashion statement is worth $2k.
honestly? it's perfectly usable for what like 90% of macgay users want to use macos for
pic rel is every single pre-installed macos app running + safari with 12 active tabs
windows 11 is also shockingly fine with 8gb of ram as i have recently learned, operating systems now scale incredibly well
I have 16gb and mostly use my MBP for programming and a web browser. I rarely go over 3-4gb of used ram. so yea I would say for most cases 8gb is fine.
Last week I used a Turion 64 with 2GB RAM to set up some stuff, it was only just phpmyadmin and testing a website or two, but it worked. The key was that I swapped the old HDD (~34MByte/sec) to a SSD.
literally just daily drove 8GB in my desktop for 4 months >ableton open >playing game >firefox youtube video on other monitor >several windows of old tabs >notepad open for some reason
works fine. IQfy users are technophiles
for facebook and netflix? yes
Only one tab of Facebook though
Not if you're using Chrome or FF. Maybe with Safari, but Safari is shit.
How do you guys even block ads and telemetry on Apple? You can't even use addons on Firefox in iOS.
AdGuard on iPad/Mac, it's far from perfect but together with Safari doing a lot work automatically, it makes the experience close to uBlock on Windows. On iPhone I don't even bother since I just read the same few news sites there that don't have obnoxious shit.
>On iPhone
can you even
1Blocker works just fine, works with Safari content blockers so if it (rarely) breaks something I temporarily turn it off
pi-hole/dns blocker
adguard dns for easy way
>can't even use addons on Firefox in iOS
every browser on iOS is just a safari skin, you cant release another web engine on it
t. non-EU-chud
Isn't it more precisely that you can't do jit and only apple can do it so safari javascript engine will always be the fastest so everybody uses it? but that doesn't prevent a browser from supporting adblockers
For most people? Sure. Even on Windows, as long you're not using cancer like Chrome.
The storage is a damn joke though, I have no clue how anyone doing anything on their PC is supposed to deal with 256gb.
i have a desktop for storing my porn, why would i need more than 256gb on a laptop? i don't even use more than 128gb currently.
Not much of use from your desktop when you're traveling, in best case you're reliant on perfect interwebz. I was rather thinking about music though. Then add the actual work, Logic is over 90gb naked, and smaller shit like PS tends to build upon the frickloads of files you already have.
Home server
>Even on Windows
No fricking way you're running windows 10-11 with 8GB and not noticing a problem.
I got a 8th gen i3 NUC with 8gb on W10 for my mom, put the TDP limit to 15W and aside of trying to play an AV1 movie, it never had any issues.
win 10 uses less ram than win 7
Pathetic post defending corporate greed
And is having 256GB SSD equal to 1TB SSD on windows too?
The issue is not selling a machine with 8GB of RAM but rather how much extra they charge for a reasonable amount.
Apple charges more than double what Samsung does per TB of storage, and their RAM is similarly insanely expensive.
that's completely intentional and a common tactic in order to be able to advertise with a lower "from" price
that is, offer a considerably cheaper, but useless-for-most-people option, then you can claim that as the minimum cost of the product. the idea is to make your real profit on the upsell to the more reasonable options
the 8GB macbook "pro" is the bait, the version to make macbooks seem more affordable, it's not the one they want you to actually buy
Next year Apple will announce a Mac with 16GB of RAM and macgays will cum buckets and say it's the most revolutionary thing ever
8gb of ram is enough for anyone who doesn't know what ram is (most of the userbase)
My Core 2 Duo running Windows XP had 8GB RAM. Enough for basic tasks? Maybe. Acceptable? Fricking hell no, you're a moron if you buy Apple's overpriced shit.
I have a m1 mini with 8/256 and it's been fine for the 3.5 years I've had it. It's always on, transmission with ~2k torrents is always running, Firefox with ~30 tabs is always running, plus music.app with a 1.5tb library and the occasional music and video transcoding, daily Remote Desktop, terminals and emacs.
why are you telling lies on the internet
Is someone still using firefox really this unbelievable?
not only that, but transmission? Come on.
not her, but transmission is top-tier. transmission-daemon + stig is as good as it gets.
+1, I run it as well and it's speedy as anything. tried some other clients when people said that there were faster options and after testing they seemed to be talking out of their ass
no, that ram is shared with the gpu
You need 64GB of ram to use a windows pc these days
>16GB is enough
16GB of RAM (and the 25GB of swap windows bloats to)
Apple loves their market segmentation. They know that if they increase 8GB to 12GB, for example, their 16GB model will lose much of the appeal.
in phones? yes
With a PC you can buy 64GB of RAM for $140.
With a macbook, upgrading from 8GB to 16GB costs $500.
If you want 64 GB of RAM in a macbook, you need to buy a configuration that costs over $5000.
lmao
Are you sure? My M2 Max MBP bought near launch was around 4k for 96GB RAM and 2TB SSD
>If you want 64 GB of RAM in a macbook, you need to buy a configuration that costs over $5000.
$4,100. I'm typing on a 64 GB MacBook Pro.
lol, lmao even
they literally sell the fricking iPhone with 8GB of RAM
what a joke
>8GB is eno-ACKKK
It's enough because I regularly use a 4gb ram celeron for a travel laptop and that works fine.
but macs are expected to run more than audacious and an xterm for their price. and they don't exactly run lxde themself.
>"""premium""" computers
lmao
It depends on what you want to do, and keep in mind that if at some point you need more ram you wont be able to upgrade it, so i wouldn't recommend it.
And don't fall for the 8gb on mac is equivalent to 999,999gb on pc meme, it's not, I have 16gb on my mac mini and some times is not enough for some tasks.
>some tasks
what tasks
xCode + simulator + previews
you're not a basic user then (neither am I, which is why mine has 36) but my parents have an 8gb one and they use it just fine for basic photo editing, work, emails etc. whereas their previous i7 toshiba thing had 16gb struggled to do any of that stuff
it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows purely from windows' heavy use (especially with 11, jesus what is that thing doing) just existing, which is baffling
>it is fair to compare 8gb on a mac to 16gb on windows
Exhibit A of why Apple is a major market presence. Imagine simping for a marketing claim that's so absurd that I'm surprised it isn't illegal to make.
I'm not simping, I had doubts as well but I gave first hand source information for an 8gb mac being absolutely fine for a lot of users (
) and have seen plenty of my friends say they deal with 8gb just fine as well (which I realise is anecdotal evidence, but I stand by it, you don't have to believe me)
Yes, 8 is plenty for casual users. It's plenty on Windows as well, but the cheaper computers casual users tend to buy tend to be hamstrung across the board hardware-wise, which makes 8 feel even worse there. But your anecdotes remain just that, whereas you will never be able to show numbers supporting that 8 on Mac is equivalent to 16 on Windows. That's what I'm saying.
>11, jesus what is that thing doing
rendering its UI via electron
And obviously android studio + emulator + previews,
Working with high res images with layers.
If you end in a meeting at the same time, or just want to have the docs open in the browser you're fricked.
Even if you don't develop you can easily reach 8gb by hoarding some tabs (they'll be discarded and have to be reloaded)
For normal web browsing it's ok, but there's cheaper options.
If it was windows probably something happened to it, lack of some driver, fricked installation or something (windows tends to get slower over time). In my previous mini (intel) using the exact same hardware macOS and windows didn't really have any noticeable difference on performance (gpu tests were slightly better on windows iirc but not by much)
>cheaper options
judging by the amount of time I recently spent at my grandparents' fixing onedrive crashing, outlook forcing itself to update to a version that doesn't support their ISP email, and office demanding paid upgrades that they don't need
what I could have saved by buying my parents a windows laptop I would have wasted in tech support (ie me)
they're super happy with the laptop and I would not wish windows' current obnoxious state on anyone. maybe if I could trust them with a version of 7
I'm grateful my father uses mint, he got used to it almost instantly and has had no problems with it so far, I still have a partition with windows 10 but it will be the last windows I'll ever use I spent almost all my free time on arch+kde already and even for work when I'm not using xCode on macOS.
Not gonna miss windows, they seem hell bent to add more ads to it and they're even using the diagnostic data to personalize them frick it.
>8GB ram
>Lightroom with 20 Tabs
kills your SSD-NAND by swapping non-stop with no survivors
I use an 8GB M1 for heavy browsing (with Chrome) and some dev work (building a React Native app for iOS, though most of the work on that app happens on a Windows desktop). It works perfectly.
Now, there ARE certain things I haven't even tried because I know 8GB isn't going to be enough for them. VMs and Android Studio come to mind. But those are specialist use cases.
I think it's fair to say that 8GB is fine for the vast majority of people. Of those who need more, most will be well aware of that fact upfront.
8GB is fine if there is an open slot for the owner to install more.
Please think about AAPL-shareholders.
For a Mac? Yes. A status symbol doesn't need to actually work well.
Apple knows Mac users don't need anymore.
>no numpad
instantly trash
I wonder if that's why my company-issued laptop will stop responding and have to be force rebooted after a couple weeks of uptime
IT teams don't like long uptimes on company computers, it means security patches don't get installed
I've figured out how to bypass the force updater they rootkitted my laptop with, so I've been able to go months when they normally b***h at me every two weeks or so. It's like they don't understand how nerds operate, fake tech homosexuals
I'm sure they love that
I am autistic and go out of my way to ignore passive aggressive behavior because I find it disgusting.
I stan
>Is 8GB of (soldered) RAM enough these days?
No, anything with less than 32 may as well be considered an scam.
Microsoft Mindset
>Oh yeah, I want to obliterate my soldered ssd by constantly writing to the swap file
Applel mindset
It would take 10 years of continuous heavy swap file writing before seeing any degredation
>source: https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/hardware/ssd-lifespan-how-long-will-your-ssd-work/ apple nand chips have a 150 tbw so with an average of 40gb/day writing equals 10 years
>40gb/day
Anon, it isn't just only 40gb/day, that's the point, if the moron who bought it wants to get into video production for some reason and edits videos every day, that would be far more than just 40gb, and the only reason to buy a mac is literally adobe and music production.
>the only reason to buy a mac is literally adobe and music production
adobe's fine on a windows machine, it's not even better on a mac like it debateably used to be. music's a different beast, admittedly lmo still better on a mac but also very fine on windows
don't be obnoxious, there's plenty of good reasons to buy a mac
and anyway, as far as I can tell there hasn't been any more reports of SSD failure on macs vs windows, and the ones that there are for both platforms are small, so it's a moot point
>I can tell there hasn't been any more reports of SSD failure on macs vs windows
ssd fails on pc, buy another ssd for 60$
ssd fails on a mac, buy another mac for 1500$
how's the battery life on the machine where you can replace an SSD for $60
oh that's right, it's a desktop
I'd trade a couple hours of battery life for upgradeable hardware every day, most people don't need to work away from a power outlet during 10 hours.
>how's the battery life on the machine where you can replace an SSD for $60
You can also replace the battery on that machine with a much better one.
>oh that's right, it's a desktop
What are you even smoking?
You can replace the ssd on almost every laptop on the market, hell, there's a frickton that even have two slots and upgradeable RAM too.
If you want battery life, you really shouldn't even be using a battery to begin with because it will never ever be enough.
>If you want battery life, you really shouldn't even be using a battery to begin with because it will never ever be enough.
holy fricking cope
>Oy vey lemme go to my job, chargerless and spend all day compiling code for my work
>Now the amazing all day, 8 hours of use battery, can't even last me 3 hours of use
WOW dude, amazing battery life, bro.
My 800€, 1.07kg x86/64 laptop has no problems lasting 8-10 hours and has a replacable SSD
Consider that macOS rapes the SSD a lot more than other OSes
I dare all macgays ITT to post TBW
>10 years
Realistically you won't keep it that long but it's still pathetic. Anything else in that price range should go on working for decades. But macs are not built very well, this is known.
>this is known
What is this Elon-level moronic comment
at least one documented common design flaw per every other generation
>other
Not even that, they're releasing at least one fatal failure every single generation, and most of the time they literally carry the issue to the next one.
4GB RAM on my Chromebook, works completely fine.
It's almost as fast at browsing as my 5900X Ryzen desktop because it's not running a bloated piece of shit operating system. Boots in like 3 seconds.
its enough if you're a productive adult, it will take care of all your development needs plus entertainment
however, if you're a smelly jobless neet who likes to play g*mes, then you would need more ram
They do hardware-assisted compression and decompression, it's more like 16-64GB of RAM depending on the compression ratio that can be achieved.
We already had this thread, too.
If only Linux, Windows and ChromeOS didn't have this... Oh wait they do!
Hardware assisted? They don't have it. Sorry kiddo.
Software RAM compression is possible on those systems but they're way WAY slower. Apple's the ONLY company offering hardware RAM compression.
You're fricking moronic, all CPUs from Intel 3rd gen supports hardware memory compression.
>386's supported hardware RAM compression
Sure thing idiot.
>soldered
Obsoletion
>8GB
Just upgrade to 16GB for $200 more. You want 32GB? Just pay $500 more.
I've never trusted the company in my 20 years of adult life. I never will.
For 99% of people, yeah. If you come here, probably not.
8GB of memory was already hilariously bad 7 years ago
nowadays is just completely insane considering the base memory requirements of even the most basic programs
the apple brand only exists thanks to sub 120 iq consumers
with their high resolution displays and integrated gpu, 1 tab of an intense multimedia page can take a whole GB.
With WUXGA it's probably a bad idea to have less than 16GB because the images/videos simply browsing will take up that much more memory.
If resolution is only 1366x768 or 1600x900 or something then tabs take a few 100MB and 8GB works, even 4GB can work.
However 99% of the users who think they need 32GB or more don't need it. You really need cache that's why the browser bogs down quick scrolling hd videos high res photos. .
you're a racist piece of s**t.
you have a smoll d**k.
Black person
Stop replying to yourself, schizo.
See the problem is not the 8gb on macOS
The problem is realizing that macOS by itself doesn't have some software worth a shit so you need to use Parallels or VMWare because you wanted to spend over $1k on a fricking smartphone processor for that extra battery life and that eats RAM
besides gaymen when else should my $2300 macbook air do? I have a proper winblows desktop for games. once steam deck or playstation ever adopts a free online service again I'll ditch windows entirely. ill be goddamned if I ever pay to online game
I run open source *nix apps on the regular, I run retroarch for roms so I do game on my macbook with 90's shit
windows is dead
consoles are (them'd)
anyone making more than $70k a year runs macos and ios, it just werks
Why should anyone spend more than $500 on a machine they're going to use to shitpost, emulate and watch youtube videos?
because I can use yt-dl, retroarch and firefox which are all open source and be smug about it on a closed source hardware brand? i guess, dont know or care. all im saying is windows is dead and so is x86_64 architecture
arm is the future
poors mad
anyways buy a 16/512, anything else is wasted money unless you're a power user and you think $2k is alot of money lmao
I spend more on property taxes and insurance in a year than on my hobbies
I bought a Thinkpad P1 for that amount of money with 4TB of space and 128 GB of RAM and a dedicated GPU. You must be genuinely moronic if you think a glorified fashion statement is worth $2k.
*Thinkpad P16
Here's the storage space
dangerously based
8GiB (not GB) of Apple-M3-macOS-RAM is like 16GiB of non-Apple-M3-macOS-RAM.
honestly? it's perfectly usable for what like 90% of macgay users want to use macos for
pic rel is every single pre-installed macos app running + safari with 12 active tabs
windows 11 is also shockingly fine with 8gb of ram as i have recently learned, operating systems now scale incredibly well
I have 16gb and mostly use my MBP for programming and a web browser. I rarely go over 3-4gb of used ram. so yea I would say for most cases 8gb is fine.
Apple RAM and the unified setup make 8Gb normal RAM 32GB Apple RAM.
8GB = obsolete
16GB = low end
32GB = midrange
64GB = high end
128GB = enthusiast
anything beyond 32GB is a meme. by the time 64GB becomes mainsteam we're on DDR8 and RAM is like 10x faster
I'm not going to say 8GB is enough, but even on Windows my system only uses up like 3GB. I hardly ever went beyond 4GB
works for me
I pity you
I pity you so fricking much it's unreal anon
The only thing that uses any memory is Chrome. This is clearly a case of trying to fix a software problem with hardware.
No it is not
Last week I used a Turion 64 with 2GB RAM to set up some stuff, it was only just phpmyadmin and testing a website or two, but it worked. The key was that I swapped the old HDD (~34MByte/sec) to a SSD.
literally just daily drove 8GB in my desktop for 4 months
>ableton open
>playing game
>firefox youtube video on other monitor
>several windows of old tabs
>notepad open for some reason
works fine. IQfy users are technophiles
it's enough only for airs to consume media and really light work, no more than that.
apple shouldn't sell "pro"s with 8gb