It's a small oven. So it's like the oven in your house right now, but much smaller and with less options.
If you want a smaller oven that will heat up quicker and use a little less power but you'll have to spend far too much on, then an air fryer is right for you.
Also since you're already bad with money if you buy one of these, send me $100 since you'll just waste it anyway.
I've heard of these, but never seen one in person or bothered to look it up, but just going off of the name, how is that different from an oven?
its just an electric powered convection oven with a fan that circulates the air into a basket with a mesh bottom, so hot air is cooking both sides of your food. its really good for eating up cold fried foods, reheating pizza, cooking frozen foods.
if you use it normally on regular raw ingredients you get a kind of pseduo-fried food thats crispy on the outside. its about the size of a coffee maker so its good for people live by themselves or in a small place.
it's a small table top convection oven with very clever viral marketing. popular in burger land where they apparently don't have normal ovens with convection feature
Most americans grew up with gas ovens, its only become recent that ameripoorgays have started using electric so the idea of an electric oven is extremely novel to the average american.
I bought one of these when I was a student and I used it like twice. Maybe I should give it another chance but cooking things in my cast iron works very well tbh.
Fried food is delicious. Food cooked in a small convection oven is not "fried" in any sense of the word, and marketing these as "air fryers" should be an actionable case of consumer fraud.
For me it's the diamond frame bicycle. I don't think it will ever be surpassed as a method of efficiently propelling a human by means of their own muscle strength.
its a smaller volume so it heats quicker, uses less power, and it has less thermal mass while also being decently insulated, so food can finish and you just leave it there and it says warm without burning.
except with air dryer your potato skins are soft instead of crunchy use an oven dummy its worth the expenses
>In the United States, Tefal is marketed as T-fal.[6] This is to comply with DuPont's objection that the name "Tefal" was too close to DuPont's trademark "Teflon".[1] The T-fal brand is also used in Canada[7] and Japan.[8][9]
>This is to comply with DuPont's objection that the name "Tefal" was too close to DuPont's trademark "Teflon"
holy frick I hate america so much it's unreal
the only thing "free" about that country is the ability of corporations to reign supreme over their nation
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the only thing "free" about that country is the ability of corporations to reign supreme over their nation
It's the American way
2 years ago
Anonymous
>the only thing "free" about that country is the ability of corporations to reign supreme over their nation
It's the American way
it makes a lot more sense when you realise Tefal = (Tef)lon + (Al)uminium. Teflon is trademarked so using a part of it as your business's name will infringe trademark
>We have Bluetooth and wifi airfryers now.
Do these actually exist? And if so, why? What's the point of connecting to bluetooth or wifi? What does it even do with that shit?
what is the point again? why not just bake in oven without oil? why not just put it on a non-stick, preferably cast iron cookware and fry it without oil
I think it just attracts manchildren that haven't touched an oven before and finds it intimidating.
I've seen people that don't know how to prepare a boiled egg.
its a smaller volume so it heats quicker, uses less power, and it has less thermal mass while also being decently insulated, so food can finish and you just leave it there and it says warm without burning.
Because it can cook things faster, and it doesn't make the room temperature rise by 10 degrees in the middle of summer when you open it. Also, it doesn't waste as much electricity if you make something small, and the one I have can be used as a toaster. There;s no good reason to bust out the full-fledged oven if I just want to heat up a sandwich.
Do you still have space for a dedicated fries making device next to your dedicated coffee making device, waffle making device, toast making device, bread making device, rice making device and boiled egg making device, shopping channel chef?
>waffle making device
To be fair, you can't make waffles without some kind of special tool, otherwise it defeats the purpose of it being a waffle.
Also, you forgot an electric kettle, but burgers don't seem to use those for some reason.
Waffles are bullshit anyway as long as pancakes exist. Also I deliberately omitted electric kettles because there are multiple uses for boiled water. Hell, you could probably even make boiled eggs in your kettle.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>waffle making device
To be fair, you can't make waffles without some kind of special tool, otherwise it defeats the purpose of it being a waffle.
Also, you forgot an electric kettle, but burgers don't seem to use those for some reason.
Kettles appear alongside microwaves, stovetops and ovens as useful general purpose devices.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, if I was going to bother with any kind of "prepared" breakfast food, I'd definitely go with pancakes or french toast first. But I basically never do that.
It's because most burgers don't need boiled water very often. Small market for them.
>inb4 1500w
NEC mandates 125V/20A circuits in kitchens, if they were popular enough wed have power kettles
2 years ago
Anonymous
I fricking wish I could buy a 240v 20amp kettle. Would replacing the plug on a bong kettle be an option, or would they not be able to handle the amperage?
2 years ago
Anonymous
120v 20 amp kettle*
2 years ago
Anonymous
>not be able to handle the amperage
Wat?
What you can do is replace the plug to nema 6-20 or 6-15. I run a german clothes iron this way.
But considering your question about handling the amperage you will probably kys and burn your house down if you try this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
a 2400w kettle running on 240v would only need wiring to handle 10 amps. a 2400w kettle running on 120v would need wiring to handle 20 amps
That's my concern with just replacing the plug on overseas equipment
2 years ago
Anonymous
2400W kettle meant to run on 240V would still only draw around 10A at 120V because the heater resistance does not change.
Watts:
P= U x I
Amps:
I= U / R
U is your voltage
R is the resistance of your heater
You need to wire a circuit for 250V, the wire can stay the same, you just need two pole or two breakers and a correct outlet.
However usually you have multiple outlets on the same circuit.
My HVAC is is also in the laundry room so it was fairly easy to just add a 250V outlet to that circuit. HVAC air handler only eats 4A and euro appliances max out at 13, so a 20A 250V circuit can run both in the same time if needed.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>2400W kettle meant to run on 240V would still only draw around 10A at 120V because the heater resistance does not change.
No, it will draw two times less current:
2400W / 240V = 10A
240V / 10A = 24 Ohm
120V / 24 Ohm = 5A
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yup, you are correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
On the bright side computers will be so power hungry soon that our 120v lines won't carry enough power. Time to switch to three phase
>is a moron who doesn't know how to use the damn thing
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's literally made to boil water faster.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Since you're clearly moronic, I'll try to teach you how pressure cookers work.
The boiling point of water is based on its current pressure level. At sea level it's around 100c, but at the top of high mountains it can hit as low as 85c. This is why a lot of mountain climbers don't take food that requires boiling with them; they literally cannot cook it since water can't go above boiling point, so their food won't cook at the lower temperature. Also, food stores at higher altitudes have really puffed out bags of potato chips because the lower pressure just does that.
What this means is that food you cook by boiling in water can cook faster if you can somehow raise the boiling point of water by increasing the pressure the water is under. In comes pressure cookers that can raise the boiling point of water inside to upwards of 120c, thus cooking the food inside faster. My Instant Pot boils potatoes in about 6-8 points and uses frick all electric to do it, compared with a stove that takes longer and wastes a ton of electric through all that hot steam boiling off.
Higher pressure means higher boiling point, which means faster cooked food. Hell I can cook a whole chicken in 20 minutes in this thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>as low as 85c
I read somewhere it's (a rather pathetic) 74 degrees at the top of Mount Everest.
Imagine trying to make a decent cuppa in that shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Instant will dissolve at room temperature so I'd imagine 74c would be fine so long as you're only using instant and not bring a straight up espresso setup to the top of Everest.
2 years ago
Anonymous
tea you swine!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd just drink water but like okay man.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This.
Funny story: I tracked down my itinerant father using tea.
I got a call in the middle of the night saying my old man had died. This was before caller ID, so I couldn't do much with this information. However, I did glean during my half-asleep questioning of my mystery caller that he was in the next state north.
I hadn't seen him in a decade, but I knew he was a truckie. So I started calling truck engineering joints in the next state north. Yes, this resulted in about 120 calls with a couple of false starts (my old man has a pretty common name), but eventually: >hi this is joe from blahblah engineering >hi joe im looking for anon mcanon - i heard he croaked >nah, old mcanon was in here this morning having a cup of TEA >TEA >tea >tea...
Yeah, I'm sure Joe didn't actually say it four times, but there was certainly an echo on the line.
First, ovens aren't same. The cheapest ovens don't have air circulations. The convection oven is one thats similar to air fryer.
Airfryers at the core are smaller convection oven. However due to its smaller size, the power usage is cut to 1/3 or 1/5 that of convection oven. As well as the whole air fryer system is made to be automatic to the point that most people don't change from bake/broil/preheat/etc settings that you normally have with standard ovens.
The use case is obvious, for anyone that only use the oven for small things, air fryer does the job. Its automatic, small size, and can be maintained/cleaned much easier. Also no need issues with changing/replacing the machine if it breaks down for some reason. You're not transporting some 500 lb oven. Its just ~10lb.
The size/capacity of the cooking tray is large enough that you can meaningfully get away with just about anything you have.
I haven't seen an oven in over 20 years that doesn't have a fan assist on it.
"A smaller version of the thing you already have" seems like a pretty weak justification.
>I haven't seen an oven in over 20 years that doesn't have a fan assist on it.
Thats because you have't been in an older house. Some apartment owners also cheap out and buy the cheapest shit for the apartments.
>"A smaller version of the thing you already have" seems like a pretty weak justification.
1000 watt vs 5000 watt
Same speed in cooking
Roughly same real world/effective capacity for cooking
With summer here, extra 5000 watt hour of heat injected into the home is a pretty big deal.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Roughly
2 years ago
Anonymous
>1000 watt vs 5000 watt
In the extreme cases.
Also, and oven is something I use for like 45-60 at a time, maybe 3 days a week not something that's running all day, so the total electricity spent on my oven would be fairly small.
It would take a fair bit of time for an air fryer to pay itself off in electricity costs, and if they are built as cheap as they look, it seems like they'd last a few years at most, and replacing them would basically entirely cut out any electricity savings or "environmental impact".
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It would take a fair bit of time for an air fryer to pay itself off in electricity costs
If you dont have any oven, or a broken one or an old one, air fryers are cheaper on to go. The cost to move the 300-500 lb oven itself would higher than air fryer itself, then the oven itself would cost well over $1000+. Its a no brainer to buy a cheaper $50-$100 air fryers.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Roughly same real world/effective capacity for cooking
You can put a whole turkey in one?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Depends on the size of the turkey and the size of the tray
it's a small table top convection oven with very clever viral marketing. popular in burger land where they apparently don't have normal ovens with convection feature
>popular in burger land where they apparently don't have normal ovens with convection feature
Actually it's because they're stupid consoomer sheep who will buy what they're told. You give mutts too much credit anon.
In a lot of ways, it's just a really small fan-forced oven, yes.
Differences include it having a completely idiot-proof "basket" that you just lob whatever you want to cook into. Because they're so compact, pre-heat times are measurable in (admittedly low-triple-digit) seconds.
TL;DR: fast enough to cure munchies, simple enough a child could operate one.
pre-heat times are low enough I just don't preheat, and cook a minute longer, which greatly simplifies the cooking experience
I used an air fryer for years, and cleaning the damn thing made it not worth it over just using the oven and spraying food with cooking oil spray before.
I got a smaller oven and haven't looked back. It turns on quicker, hotter, and has like 6x the usable room for only 1.5x the space. The old oven was some 1990 model.
I just chuck a sheet of aluminium foil in the bottom of the basket, and fry my tendies on that. I clean the thing more properly maybe once a month (spray some water + lemon juice in it, heat for 2 mins till steamy, wipe with paper towel)
What's the difference between it and my convection oven? Why have another single purpose appliance and not get a small convection oven if you don't have a full size oven?
some people rent and can't control the oven they have in their home, and a countertop convection oven might be just a bit too big. Air fryers are almost as flexible, smaller, and cheaper to run
It's smaller.
It also costs more per unit, because dumb idiots who buy whatever's fashionable right now will go out and buy one, then swear by it for a month and then leave it in a cupboard after the next consoomer product arrives.
definitely a great invention
don't need to order takeaway at all anymore, for less than 25% of the price i eat the same and it's delivered in 15 minutes by my airfryer
now i can become obese much cheaper / faster
I want to say that people literally do not know how to make air fryer steak. Every single time I have went over peoples house to try it, it is dangerously miscooked or comes out so dry with no crust for that mallard brown flavor. its just eating a chew toy or cat food depending on you like overcook or raw.
I ordered burgerking and ended up spending like 22 bucks for 3 burger meals
Thats all i ate today im so hungry
Frick burgergayking i dont know why i did that
Samoans and other islanders are absolute units, but at least they aren't eating mcdonalds shit
2 years ago
Anonymous
your a moron
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2 years ago
Anonymous
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2 years ago
Anonymous
let me guess, it points to some mcdonalds
if you weren't illiterate you'd understand that I meant they don't eat processed crap, it's just that their food is high carb as frick
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The only Mcdonald in Samoa
based moron
2 years ago
Anonymous
samoa small, and do you think that one mcdonalds is the only source of junky trashy food?
You do know that the obsesity epidemic is because of frequent and excessive carb intake, particularly sugar, right? Carbs spike insulin which forces all the excess glucose in the body into fat cells, and since people use frequently, the levels never have a chance to drop and so people gain weight. Vegetable seed oils being used frequently is a problem as well, since they cause general inflammation in the body, but the main culprit is the carb content. If people stopped chugging soft drinks and dropped bread and starchy vegetables, the obesity rates would almost immediately start falling.
I used an air fryer for years, and cleaning the damn thing made it not worth it over just using the oven and spraying food with cooking oil spray before.
I got a smaller oven and haven't looked back. It turns on quicker, hotter, and has like 6x the usable room for only 1.5x the space. The old oven was some 1990 model.
What's the difference between it and my convection oven? Why have another single purpose appliance and not get a small convection oven if you don't have a full size oven?
why are they the current fad?
everyone was about the george foreman grill, until they weren't
then they were for instantpot (pressure cookers have been around forever, but it was a sudden fad)
now it is airfryers
>still have to use s considerable amount of oil else my fries ends up as soggy and dull, not crunchy at all
it didn't solve shit
and for other stuff, a gas stove is infinitely cheaper and more time efficient, using air fryer constantly rapes my energy bill
thats crazy, air fryers are small with relatively low powerdraw, I've used a killawatt on it, and my power usage is coming in around 2-3c for a typical 15 minute run at 200C
With gas stovetops the vast majority of the energy is running up the sides of the pot into the room, and not all people have gas service anyway.
NTA, but to be fair, where I am gas is hilariously cheaper than electricity. And I mean an order of magnitude for the same wattage of heating. My gf isn't a native to these parts, so convincing her to use the gas heater in the den instead of an electric knocked over a hundred localcurrency off our power bill, and added twenty to the gas bill - and keeps the house considerably warmer.
they're useful if I don't want to heat up the entire oven but literally every single one is designed to fail prematurely where the handle attaches to the basket. just get a normal countertop convection oven with a swinging door and skip this chink shit
it's pretty nice for meal prep when I have the motivation, just make up bags with my proteins and sides to store in the freezer and pull them out whenever I want.
used an airfryer a few months ago and everything i tried just turned out dry and bland. am i supposed to prep my food in a certain way beforehand or are these fryers just a fad?
For poor morons who can't afford a real convection oven.
Just because it makes foods the quality of something like Burger king doesn't mean it's a real
or good meal.
>it's a waste of money >wtf they are cheap are u poor or smth >conventional ovens are better >wtf they are large and i dun have space for 'em and even if i do my oven is old and broken frick you
Something that's so quick and easy to use and cooks so well they're amazing. Depending on what you get, The size really is the only limiting factor. It can sometimes make roasts and ovens are still the best to cook things that require a larger surface area.
They're also fun to cook with, As weird as that sounds.
it's not a fricking fryer
it's just a fricking toaster oven
toaster ovens have existed for decades
i've been using toaster ovens for decades to fry frozen fries and everything else you stupid zoomers
https://www.amazon.com/convection-ovens/b?ie=UTF8&node=289934
air fryers just a light bulb
No, that would be excel
yes. I even cook hotdogs in it.
No a spear is. It's open source and you can use it to eat bears.
Frick PETA.
It's just an overglorified hot air oven.
that heats up in 30 seconds instead of 10 minutes
No, it's not even the greatest invention for food cooking as gas grill BBQs have them beat.
>air fryer
>2/3 of images not of fried food
Does it make muffins or roast vegetables? If it can make that I might get one.
Yes to both, as long as you can fit them in the basket. It's literally a tiny convection oven.
It's a small oven. So it's like the oven in your house right now, but much smaller and with less options.
If you want a smaller oven that will heat up quicker and use a little less power but you'll have to spend far too much on, then an air fryer is right for you.
Also since you're already bad with money if you buy one of these, send me $100 since you'll just waste it anyway.
>$100
they're like $50 bucks
what are you, poor?
No but I'd like to have $100 for free.
This is one of the dumbest most moron dumbshit takes I have seen on this site, and that is saying something
well what's the difference?
its just an electric powered convection oven with a fan that circulates the air into a basket with a mesh bottom, so hot air is cooking both sides of your food. its really good for eating up cold fried foods, reheating pizza, cooking frozen foods.
if you use it normally on regular raw ingredients you get a kind of pseduo-fried food thats crispy on the outside. its about the size of a coffee maker so its good for people live by themselves or in a small place.
Most americans grew up with gas ovens, its only become recent that ameripoorgays have started using electric so the idea of an electric oven is extremely novel to the average american.
I bought one of these when I was a student and I used it like twice. Maybe I should give it another chance but cooking things in my cast iron works very well tbh.
You're such a pleb I don't even know how to respond to you..
It doesn't actually fry food you uncultured swine
Fried food is delicious. Food cooked in a small convection oven is not "fried" in any sense of the word, and marketing these as "air fryers" should be an actionable case of consumer fraud.
>frying air
do americans really?
People have used hot air to steam stuff for ages, what's wrong with using it to fry stuff?
I worry more for added sugars. Fat is fine.
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For me it's the diamond frame bicycle. I don't think it will ever be surpassed as a method of efficiently propelling a human by means of their own muscle strength.
are road racers really that great
except with air dryer your potato skins are soft instead of crunchy use an oven dummy its worth the expenses
I think you're doing something wrong, everything comes out crispy with mine
Actifry is the only airfryer worth buying
>T-fal
What the actual frick?
>In the United States, Tefal is marketed as T-fal.[6] This is to comply with DuPont's objection that the name "Tefal" was too close to DuPont's trademark "Teflon".[1] The T-fal brand is also used in Canada[7] and Japan.[8][9]
The numbers mason
copy pasted wikipedia citations
>This is to comply with DuPont's objection that the name "Tefal" was too close to DuPont's trademark "Teflon"
holy frick I hate america so much it's unreal
the only thing "free" about that country is the ability of corporations to reign supreme over their nation
>the only thing "free" about that country is the ability of corporations to reign supreme over their nation
It's the American way
it makes a lot more sense when you realise Tefal = (Tef)lon + (Al)uminium. Teflon is trademarked so using a part of it as your business's name will infringe trademark
So these things are basically just toaster ovens?
They're just better coountertop convection ovens for most things
Toaster ovens which work 1000% better for their purpose. Pizza reheated in an air fryer is a delight.
Wow grandpa , old ass shit tefal ....
We have Bluetooth and wifi airfryers now.
My air fryer doesn't need fricking wifi, you just push the button and it does it's thing
>We have Bluetooth and wifi airfryers now.
Do these actually exist? And if so, why? What's the point of connecting to bluetooth or wifi? What does it even do with that shit?
what is the point again? why not just bake in oven without oil? why not just put it on a non-stick, preferably cast iron cookware and fry it without oil
I think it just attracts manchildren that haven't touched an oven before and finds it intimidating.
I've seen people that don't know how to prepare a boiled egg.
its a smaller volume so it heats quicker, uses less power, and it has less thermal mass while also being decently insulated, so food can finish and you just leave it there and it says warm without burning.
Finally, someone with an IQ above 31
Microwave ovens are both small and more versatile
microwave no make crispy
Because it can cook things faster, and it doesn't make the room temperature rise by 10 degrees in the middle of summer when you open it. Also, it doesn't waste as much electricity if you make something small, and the one I have can be used as a toaster. There;s no good reason to bust out the full-fledged oven if I just want to heat up a sandwich.
>the one I have can be used as a toaster
Alright now you piqued my interest, do they all have this or is that a specific model?
I could justify an air fryer if I could get rid of something else, ie. the toaster
I use it to heat leftover pizza since I don't have an oven and it tastes better than heating it with a microwave.
This is the only way to reheat pizza anon
you could also just throw it into an oven for like 10 minutes on a low broil and get the same result
It cooks everybody's favorite junk food the same a large convection oven would but in much less time in a form factor that sits on a counter top.
It's more of a rapid hot air bake / crisper type thing.
Air fryers are cheap. Stop being poor
Do you still have space for a dedicated fries making device next to your dedicated coffee making device, waffle making device, toast making device, bread making device, rice making device and boiled egg making device, shopping channel chef?
Did you run out of your meds?
>waffle making device
To be fair, you can't make waffles without some kind of special tool, otherwise it defeats the purpose of it being a waffle.
Also, you forgot an electric kettle, but burgers don't seem to use those for some reason.
Waffles are bullshit anyway as long as pancakes exist. Also I deliberately omitted electric kettles because there are multiple uses for boiled water. Hell, you could probably even make boiled eggs in your kettle.
Kettles appear alongside microwaves, stovetops and ovens as useful general purpose devices.
Yeah, if I was going to bother with any kind of "prepared" breakfast food, I'd definitely go with pancakes or french toast first. But I basically never do that.
Electric kettles are not needed once you have an induction cooktop, they are almost as efficient at boiling water
>some reason
It's because most burgers don't need boiled water very often. Small market for them.
>inb4 1500w
NEC mandates 125V/20A circuits in kitchens, if they were popular enough wed have power kettles
I fricking wish I could buy a 240v 20amp kettle. Would replacing the plug on a bong kettle be an option, or would they not be able to handle the amperage?
120v 20 amp kettle*
>not be able to handle the amperage
Wat?
What you can do is replace the plug to nema 6-20 or 6-15. I run a german clothes iron this way.
But considering your question about handling the amperage you will probably kys and burn your house down if you try this.
a 2400w kettle running on 240v would only need wiring to handle 10 amps. a 2400w kettle running on 120v would need wiring to handle 20 amps
That's my concern with just replacing the plug on overseas equipment
2400W kettle meant to run on 240V would still only draw around 10A at 120V because the heater resistance does not change.
Watts:
P= U x I
Amps:
I= U / R
U is your voltage
R is the resistance of your heater
You need to wire a circuit for 250V, the wire can stay the same, you just need two pole or two breakers and a correct outlet.
However usually you have multiple outlets on the same circuit.
My HVAC is is also in the laundry room so it was fairly easy to just add a 250V outlet to that circuit. HVAC air handler only eats 4A and euro appliances max out at 13, so a 20A 250V circuit can run both in the same time if needed.
>2400W kettle meant to run on 240V would still only draw around 10A at 120V because the heater resistance does not change.
No, it will draw two times less current:
2400W / 240V = 10A
240V / 10A = 24 Ohm
120V / 24 Ohm = 5A
Yup, you are correct.
On the bright side computers will be so power hungry soon that our 120v lines won't carry enough power. Time to switch to three phase
Sneed
I want it.
They're like sub $100 at Walmart, I do almost all of my cooking in it, and only have to clean the 1 pot at the end
>takes two hours to do anything
Yeah, no.
>is a moron who doesn't know how to use the damn thing
It's literally made to boil water faster.
Since you're clearly moronic, I'll try to teach you how pressure cookers work.
The boiling point of water is based on its current pressure level. At sea level it's around 100c, but at the top of high mountains it can hit as low as 85c. This is why a lot of mountain climbers don't take food that requires boiling with them; they literally cannot cook it since water can't go above boiling point, so their food won't cook at the lower temperature. Also, food stores at higher altitudes have really puffed out bags of potato chips because the lower pressure just does that.
What this means is that food you cook by boiling in water can cook faster if you can somehow raise the boiling point of water by increasing the pressure the water is under. In comes pressure cookers that can raise the boiling point of water inside to upwards of 120c, thus cooking the food inside faster. My Instant Pot boils potatoes in about 6-8 points and uses frick all electric to do it, compared with a stove that takes longer and wastes a ton of electric through all that hot steam boiling off.
Higher pressure means higher boiling point, which means faster cooked food. Hell I can cook a whole chicken in 20 minutes in this thing.
>as low as 85c
I read somewhere it's (a rather pathetic) 74 degrees at the top of Mount Everest.
Imagine trying to make a decent cuppa in that shit.
Instant will dissolve at room temperature so I'd imagine 74c would be fine so long as you're only using instant and not bring a straight up espresso setup to the top of Everest.
tea you swine!
I'd just drink water but like okay man.
This.
Funny story: I tracked down my itinerant father using tea.
I got a call in the middle of the night saying my old man had died. This was before caller ID, so I couldn't do much with this information. However, I did glean during my half-asleep questioning of my mystery caller that he was in the next state north.
I hadn't seen him in a decade, but I knew he was a truckie. So I started calling truck engineering joints in the next state north. Yes, this resulted in about 120 calls with a couple of false starts (my old man has a pretty common name), but eventually:
>hi this is joe from blahblah engineering
>hi joe im looking for anon mcanon - i heard he croaked
>nah, old mcanon was in here this morning having a cup of TEA
>TEA
>tea
>tea...
Yeah, I'm sure Joe didn't actually say it four times, but there was certainly an echo on the line.
It can make many things, and I live in a ghetto apartment and the gas oven does not work properly, so it' a pretty comfy device.
I've heard of these, but never seen one in person or bothered to look it up, but just going off of the name, how is that different from an oven?
First, ovens aren't same. The cheapest ovens don't have air circulations. The convection oven is one thats similar to air fryer.
Airfryers at the core are smaller convection oven. However due to its smaller size, the power usage is cut to 1/3 or 1/5 that of convection oven. As well as the whole air fryer system is made to be automatic to the point that most people don't change from bake/broil/preheat/etc settings that you normally have with standard ovens.
The use case is obvious, for anyone that only use the oven for small things, air fryer does the job. Its automatic, small size, and can be maintained/cleaned much easier. Also no need issues with changing/replacing the machine if it breaks down for some reason. You're not transporting some 500 lb oven. Its just ~10lb.
The size/capacity of the cooking tray is large enough that you can meaningfully get away with just about anything you have.
I haven't seen an oven in over 20 years that doesn't have a fan assist on it.
"A smaller version of the thing you already have" seems like a pretty weak justification.
Yeah, the name makes no sense to me either.
>I haven't seen an oven in over 20 years that doesn't have a fan assist on it.
Thats because you have't been in an older house. Some apartment owners also cheap out and buy the cheapest shit for the apartments.
>"A smaller version of the thing you already have" seems like a pretty weak justification.
1000 watt vs 5000 watt
Same speed in cooking
Roughly same real world/effective capacity for cooking
With summer here, extra 5000 watt hour of heat injected into the home is a pretty big deal.
>Roughly
>1000 watt vs 5000 watt
In the extreme cases.
Also, and oven is something I use for like 45-60 at a time, maybe 3 days a week not something that's running all day, so the total electricity spent on my oven would be fairly small.
It would take a fair bit of time for an air fryer to pay itself off in electricity costs, and if they are built as cheap as they look, it seems like they'd last a few years at most, and replacing them would basically entirely cut out any electricity savings or "environmental impact".
>It would take a fair bit of time for an air fryer to pay itself off in electricity costs
If you dont have any oven, or a broken one or an old one, air fryers are cheaper on to go. The cost to move the 300-500 lb oven itself would higher than air fryer itself, then the oven itself would cost well over $1000+. Its a no brainer to buy a cheaper $50-$100 air fryers.
>Roughly same real world/effective capacity for cooking
You can put a whole turkey in one?
Depends on the size of the turkey and the size of the tray
it's a small table top convection oven with very clever viral marketing. popular in burger land where they apparently don't have normal ovens with convection feature
>popular in burger land where they apparently don't have normal ovens with convection feature
Actually it's because they're stupid consoomer sheep who will buy what they're told. You give mutts too much credit anon.
Why the frick would I run the big oven to just make few servings of roast veg?
It's done in the mini oven faster than the big one takes to warm up.
In a lot of ways, it's just a really small fan-forced oven, yes.
Differences include it having a completely idiot-proof "basket" that you just lob whatever you want to cook into. Because they're so compact, pre-heat times are measurable in (admittedly low-triple-digit) seconds.
TL;DR: fast enough to cure munchies, simple enough a child could operate one.
pre-heat times are low enough I just don't preheat, and cook a minute longer, which greatly simplifies the cooking experience
I just chuck a sheet of aluminium foil in the bottom of the basket, and fry my tendies on that. I clean the thing more properly maybe once a month (spray some water + lemon juice in it, heat for 2 mins till steamy, wipe with paper towel)
some people rent and can't control the oven they have in their home, and a countertop convection oven might be just a bit too big. Air fryers are almost as flexible, smaller, and cheaper to run
It's smaller.
It also costs more per unit, because dumb idiots who buy whatever's fashionable right now will go out and buy one, then swear by it for a month and then leave it in a cupboard after the next consoomer product arrives.
Microwave
Electric steamer pot
Those two comes first.
It's frustrating seeing how many people are taken in by this bullshit marketing. It's also amusing how badly photo-shopped the food is.
So those things don't fry anything? What?
Close enough to it, but ditch the stupid round ones and get the oven style square draw or hatch style ones
>it's shit and if you eat any
>food your subhuman Black person
You dont eat fried food??? Are you some sort of homosexual?
nah, ive seen gays eat fried food before. this dude is worse
why would i fry air?
to make it crispier
the people who have something against air fryers have no idea what they're used for
Get real pots and pans and learn how to cook like a real man
definitely a great invention
don't need to order takeaway at all anymore, for less than 25% of the price i eat the same and it's delivered in 15 minutes by my airfryer
now i can become obese much cheaper / faster
> he doesn't eat 100% raw
ngmi
A woman in China did that with pork beef. Her insides were... not so good. Don't Google it.
> froots
> milk
> nuts
done
Based tapeworm keeper
its trichinosis, anon
>pork beef
I want to say that people literally do not know how to make air fryer steak. Every single time I have went over peoples house to try it, it is dangerously miscooked or comes out so dry with no crust for that mallard brown flavor. its just eating a chew toy or cat food depending on you like overcook or raw.
They are alright, it's hot as balls here and I don't wanna run the big ovens so the mini countertop one does fine for roasting veg and such.
Air fried potatoes gives you cancer
elaborate or leave this board forever
dood look it up
>oven
Yes. An oven is one of the better inventions. Invented by some club swinger in 60k B.C
Air fryers are smaller and cheaper to ship, cheaper to produce so they can put a bigger markup on them, and are generally more pod friendly
pretty sure we already had this thread months ago
I still lean toward the wheel myself.
the name is stupid and unhelpful but yeah it's nice to have like an electric kettle
My air fryer will cook a meal in about the same time as it takes to preheat my convection oven.
No, it's basically a shitty convection oven.
This is your brain on /misc/
/misc/ here, we like fried food. This troony is yours, not ours.
>Is a small oven the greatest invention ever made?
No you fricking moron.
i make >90% of my meals with it
I use mine several times a week. More convenient than a regular convection oven in most cases.
no, rice cooker is sirs
>it's shit and if you eat any
>food your subhuman Black person
>...
>oh my science, is that based nipponese tonkatsu?
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>any
Have people forgotten that moderation exists?
If I'm not capable of moderation, no one is.
You tell me.
>north Korea has a higher obesity rate that south Korea
juchebros... how do we cope
based fit ethiopians
These maps corellate pretty well. I wonder why.
no air fryers
I ordered burgerking and ended up spending like 22 bucks for 3 burger meals
Thats all i ate today im so hungry
Frick burgergayking i dont know why i did that
what the frick is up with those tiny islands with bigger than US obesity rates? What are they doing right?
their populations eat a metric ton of processed foods that can survive a boat trip
Samoans and other islanders are absolute units, but at least they aren't eating mcdonalds shit
your a moron
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let me guess, it points to some mcdonalds
if you weren't illiterate you'd understand that I meant they don't eat processed crap, it's just that their food is high carb as frick
>The only Mcdonald in Samoa
based moron
samoa small, and do you think that one mcdonalds is the only source of junky trashy food?
You do know that the obsesity epidemic is because of frequent and excessive carb intake, particularly sugar, right? Carbs spike insulin which forces all the excess glucose in the body into fat cells, and since people use frequently, the levels never have a chance to drop and so people gain weight. Vegetable seed oils being used frequently is a problem as well, since they cause general inflammation in the body, but the main culprit is the carb content. If people stopped chugging soft drinks and dropped bread and starchy vegetables, the obesity rates would almost immediately start falling.
Why is this thread still here if the answer was given in the first reply?
I used an air fryer for years, and cleaning the damn thing made it not worth it over just using the oven and spraying food with cooking oil spray before.
I got a smaller oven and haven't looked back. It turns on quicker, hotter, and has like 6x the usable room for only 1.5x the space. The old oven was some 1990 model.
>not laying aluminum foil over the grille to reduce clean-up
C'mon bro...
Enjoy your cancer and fire
I like my air fryer as a decent gimmick but I got it as a gift, idk if I'd ever buy one.
an air frier is a bad convection oven
Did burgers really just discovered this thing or is it just a dedicated shitposter? Air fryers have been around for a decade+
Why do people who have normal ovens buy these?
>Why do people who have normal ovens buy these?
What's the difference between it and my convection oven? Why have another single purpose appliance and not get a small convection oven if you don't have a full size oven?
why are they the current fad?
everyone was about the george foreman grill, until they weren't
then they were for instantpot (pressure cookers have been around forever, but it was a sudden fad)
now it is airfryers
I agree its a fad, but I think many many more people will still be using air fryers in 10 years than are using George Foreman's these days
Air fryers are a meme but they're at least a functional meme. George Foreman grills are terrible, even for making burgers.
great for paninis
they're awesome at cooking sausages
>still have to use s considerable amount of oil else my fries ends up as soggy and dull, not crunchy at all
it didn't solve shit
and for other stuff, a gas stove is infinitely cheaper and more time efficient, using air fryer constantly rapes my energy bill
thats crazy, air fryers are small with relatively low powerdraw, I've used a killawatt on it, and my power usage is coming in around 2-3c for a typical 15 minute run at 200C
With gas stovetops the vast majority of the energy is running up the sides of the pot into the room, and not all people have gas service anyway.
NTA, but to be fair, where I am gas is hilariously cheaper than electricity. And I mean an order of magnitude for the same wattage of heating. My gf isn't a native to these parts, so convincing her to use the gas heater in the den instead of an electric knocked over a hundred localcurrency off our power bill, and added twenty to the gas bill - and keeps the house considerably warmer.
yeah but I don't see how a few cents of power is raping your electricity bill, and in the summer the excess heat of gas is a pain to deal with
only if ur fat
Well I am fat, so there.
it's an electric oven it's not anything special
According to someone else in your datamining department it's the "in-sink dishwasher"
they're useful if I don't want to heat up the entire oven but literally every single one is designed to fail prematurely where the handle attaches to the basket. just get a normal countertop convection oven with a swinging door and skip this chink shit
anyone use sous vide primarily to cook?
it's pretty nice for meal prep when I have the motivation, just make up bags with my proteins and sides to store in the freezer and pull them out whenever I want.
It's a gimmick. A convection setting on your kitchen's actual oven would do the same and isn't a cheap chinese piece of shit.
used an airfryer a few months ago and everything i tried just turned out dry and bland. am i supposed to prep my food in a certain way beforehand or are these fryers just a fad?
I'd use a full size oven or a toaster oven over an air fryer any day (which is funny since now toaster oven are being rebranded as "air fryer ovens")
For poor morons who can't afford a real convection oven.
Just because it makes foods the quality of something like Burger king doesn't mean it's a real
or good meal.
>it's a waste of money
>wtf they are cheap are u poor or smth
>conventional ovens are better
>wtf they are large and i dun have space for 'em and even if i do my oven is old and broken frick you
Something that's so quick and easy to use and cooks so well they're amazing. Depending on what you get, The size really is the only limiting factor. It can sometimes make roasts and ovens are still the best to cook things that require a larger surface area.
They're also fun to cook with, As weird as that sounds.
it's not a fricking fryer
it's just a fricking toaster oven
toaster ovens have existed for decades
i've been using toaster ovens for decades to fry frozen fries and everything else you stupid zoomers
https://www.amazon.com/convection-ovens/b?ie=UTF8&node=289934
Yeah I don't like all that hot Chinese plastic touching my food thanks.
> he doesn't have a built-in Siemens oven