Is Arianism closer to Islam or to Trinitarianism?
What were it's ethical and social teachings and why did Germanics largely prefer it initially?
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Is Arianism closer to Islam or to Trinitarianism?
Arians were cathodox in all but Christology.
Arians believed in Jesus' divinity. Islam believe Jesus was just a man
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"THE 100 GREAT" Ep21: Arius - The Man Who Changed History
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{And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:} - Mark 12:29 (KJV)
{And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.} - Mathew 19:16-17 (KJV)
{I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.} - John 16:12-14 (KJV)
I think you're missing the point that there used to be people near these curtains and they were deliberately removed from the mosaic by the later Byzantine government to destroy Gothic iconography and retroactively delegitimize their rule.
wow these are amazing!
what about muhammad putting his tiny dick inside a 9 year old? was this also foretold rabbi mufti?
>his tiny dick
How do you know what size it was?
No records of that, but he definitely knew how to use it. Anon is just jealous.
post the 100 hadith describing how little Aisha spent her day scrubbing mo's crusty cum from his robes.
Why do you believe hadith are historical?
imo everything in islam is a bunch of shit
but over 1 billion people think that their Black person prophet is the best example for mankind.
crazy eh?
Not really if Sahih hadith are historical than the religion is true, seems pretty straightforward
>if Sahih hadith are historical than the religion is true
so if the quran is ahistorical this makes islam false.
thanks for destroying this pedo cult abdul
What? You're out here attacking fairytales like they're real.
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It's ironic since they're using an atheist argument, since none of the Christians through history used this. They're using the argument of same people that are disproving Christianity as well.
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the word in your pic does not mean arian
>The account as transmitted by Muslim historians is translated as follows:[46]
In the name of God, the Gracious One, the Merciful
From Muhammad, servant of God and His apostle to Heraclius, premier of the Romans:
Peace unto whoever follows the guided path!
Thereafter, verily I call you to submit your will to God. Submit your will to God and you will be safe. God shall compensate your reward two-folds. But if you turn away, then upon you will sins of the peasants.
Then "O People of the Scripture, come to a term equitable between us and you that we worship none but God and associate with Him nothing, and we take not one another as Lords apart from God. But if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we peace makers."[Quran 3:64]
Seal: Muhammad, Apostle of God
Show me where the word that should be translated by "arian" is.
What the frick, do muslims wewuz as Arians now?
They'll wewuz as everything until there's no longer anything to wewuz as because they've destroyed everything.
christians themselves call Islam an Arian heresy so i'd say they have the right to we wuz here
Arius was a mushrik
>why did Germanics largely prefer it initially?
I've always just thought it was because their missionaries reached them first.
If anything its the further denomination from Islam because its pretty much a polytheistic doctrine (Christ being a minor god/demigod).
Costantius II was a supporter of Arianism and activelly promoted the conversion of some germanic tribes
common Sufi W
Arianism is similar to Islam in the sense that it's anti-trinitarian, and generally denies God's immanence and love in favor of a lonely absolutist monarch who precludes human agency, as well as denying Jesus' divinity which makes it ipso facto not-Christian.
It is different from islam in that it believes that Jesus is more than merely a prophet, namely the Son of God, but merely in the form of a creature, not pre-existing eternally with God as the Word.
>It is different from islam in that it believes that Jesus is more than merely a prophet, namely the Son of God, but merely in the form of a creature, not pre-existing eternally with God as the Word.
Jesus in Islam also has a special status, even higher to that of Muhammad. The wording may be different, he's not called Son of God, but his status has eminence, so I think in that regard its not that much more different.
But in Islam Jesus is merely and purely human, an exalted human superior to all others, but patently and definitively mortal. In Arianism, he is a special creature akin to an angel, but is strictly a creature and a de facto will-less puppet of the Father, a husk without any real authority of his own.
>real authority
You have failed to comprehend the nature of the Holy Spirit.
Brother we're talking about Arianism, not Christianity.
>closer to islam
Closer to pure monotheism (tawhid) you meant. Islam as we know today didn't exist before mohamed and whilst your average muslim who didn't knew any better like to call pre-islamic monotheistic communities as "muslim" these people didn't match the prerequisites of the pillar of islam (shahada, 5 times prayer, fasting, tithe giving,hajj) to be called as such.
There's an islamic tradition that tells about a guy who looked for a pure monotheistic religion who was nonetheless dissatisfied with both Judaism and early christianity and thus seek elsewhere for a much more ancient, primordial version of monotheism. Since he died before Mohamed became a messenger, in the end days he was placed between the follower of Jesus and followers of Mohamed as an independent person that will enter paradise as one-man party independent of other messengers.
Isnt christianity condemned to hellfire for trinity in islam?
actual follower of jesus as seen in islamic tradition. Probably Nazarenes or Ebonites.
From what little "proof" that we have they were practically the same people except that Nazarenes didn't believe jesus died from crucifixion whilst Ebionites did
Not all Christians believe in the trinity
Yeah maybe unitarian universalist or mormonism but they're hardly christian, aren't they?
99% of Christianity today are nicene Christianity and you only see significant non trinitarian movement starting in 19th century america because everywhere else they were put to the stake for a forced cremation sessions
Why is Arianism so bad anyway? It's basically Christianity but less awkward and contradictory.
Arianism was always a minority schizo position, none of that shit is traditionally Christian.
Minority? It was at one time the type of Christianity that Germanic peoples followed. And Nicene Christianity is far more schizo than Arianism.
It's closer to Trinitarianism
Why do you say that? The Arian crisis was very serious.