Well in the context of wars before gunpowder you had to be strong and skillful with whatever weapon you were using, that itself is impressive, and even if you don't fight alone you have to know how to be a good leader and try not to get betrayed and backstabbed, it was kill or be killed
I'm a pacifist too but there's beauty in violence; When a lion or an eagle attacks its prey, you can't deny the beauty in that show of strength and agility
We are animals too, very territorial animals
>When a lion or an eagle attacks its prey, you can't deny the beauty in that show of strength and agility
Not the same
You are more like talking about two lions clashing
Yes there is a beauty in war/fighting
I agree
>But did they invent kebabs?
Nobody did.
people of all cultures from the Americas, Eurasia, Africa and Arabia have been skewering meat and cooking it over fires.
Probably the stupidest thing you could have possibly said.
When people say kebab
They talking about the kebab meat in bread and it was made by a turkish guy in Germany
The doner kebab
Kebab is not just any meat over a skewer
Its a particular type of meat
>Pretty sure he's remembered for being an edgelord not just killing Turks
Not at all true.
The only way you can legitimately scare ISIS-tier Muslims is by doing what vlad did.
Skewering and displaying their remains in a field of death that even Allah can't ignore.
moronic idiot
This is literally what they want
They are fanatics
They love death
Its literally their ultimate goal
Yeah because they were a massive empire that lasted centuries and not an insane statelet that lasted a few years. They still weren't ideologically, religiously or practically anything like them.
>When people say kebab >They talking about the kebab meat in bread and it was made by a turkish guy in Germany >The doner kebab >Kebab is not just any meat over a skewer >Its a particular type of meat
No it isn't you fricking moron It's literally nothing more than skewered fire roasted meat.
>moronic idiot >This is literally what they want >They are fanatics >They love death >Its literally their ultimate goal
ISIS are humans anon. They get scared just like everyone else. Not even Allah can stop them from chickening out. There are hundreds of videos of ISIS warriors running away from American bullets.
They aren't superhumans. They are just stupid goat fricking inbreds.
You really have to ignore the mainstream here and focus on recent revisionst material. The advance of research has shown it's now really all about Count Chocula.
>But did they invent kebabs?
Nobody did.
people of all cultures from the Americas, Eurasia, Africa and Arabia have been skewering meat and cooking it over fires.
Probably the stupidest thing you could have possibly said.
Any examples? Seems like a pretty important guy. Definitely no expert but Jan Sobieski is the only guy that seems more important to stopping the Turks from what I’ve read.
He was a somewhat conpetent commander, nothing legendary. but turks seethe about him endlessly today so there's at least 10 different meme accounts of how he died.
>Pretty sure he's remembered for being an edgelord not just killing Turks
Not at all true.
The only way you can legitimately scare ISIS-tier Muslims is by doing what vlad did.
Skewering and displaying their remains in a field of death that even Allah can't ignore.
>The Ottomans weren't remotely similar to ISIS
They literally killed more than ten times the number of people that ISIS has.
They owned more slaves than ISIS ever has.
What in the frick is wrong with your brain anon.
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Yeah because they were a massive empire that lasted centuries and not an insane statelet that lasted a few years. They still weren't ideologically, religiously or practically anything like them.
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>Yeah because they were
Even more Muslims than ISIS you stupid frick lol.
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>Yeah because they were a massive empire that lasted centuries and not an insane statelet that lasted a few years. They still weren't ideologically, religiously or practically anything like them.
Religiously they are the exact same.
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No they aren't. Ottomans were Hanafi and the ruling class deeply entrenched with sufism.
Isis was wahabi that didn't even exist during the peak of the ottoman empire
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>The State that has legal gay brothels and sultán'moms openly ruling the empire was the same as ISIS
Even ISIS itself called the Ottoman sufí Apostates, is this the power of Balkanoid historians?
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>They literally killed more than ten times the number of people that ISIS has.
People die in war. Turks won alot of wars, while ISIS lost, hence why Turks also killed more. The ottoman empire has been around for centuries while IS has been around for maybe a decade. >They owned more slaves than ISIS ever has.
The difference is that the Ottoman Empire had slaves at a time when that was normal in every big empire. IS has slaves at a time when it isnt acceptable.
A few months back I went to Muir woods in california. When I was walking through them there was a sign about John Muir, the person who the woods are named after. Apparently the man was a racist and eugenecist so I think this board will like him. I wish I took a picture of the board but I thought that was funny, have a picture of this tree instead
He was an Ottoman sex slave as a youth and his brother Radu was Mehmet II's favorite gay boy lover. As an adult, Vlad Dracula lashed out against his trauma by sodomizing dead turks. As punishment for this, his own people turned against him. Overall he was a rape victim and a loser. I'd estimate the Mongols were the best in terms of killing Turks historically.
He was an Ottoman sex slave as a youth and his brother Radu was Mehmet II's favorite gay boy lover. As an adult, Vlad Dracula lashed out against his trauma by sodomizing dead turks. As punishment for this, his own people turned against him. Overall he was a rape victim and a loser. I'd estimate the Mongols were the best in terms of killing Turks historically.
He isn't remembered for killing more Turks. He's remembered for managing to gain power in Wallachia from his gay brother, impale his enemies, balance Austria and Hungary's Autism, and freak out Mehmed II despite all odds being against him
why is killing people something that we should aspire to?
Those people were invading and enslaving your country
They werent ordinary people
Killing the Turks is a sign of heroism and a reason for praise
Well in the context of wars before gunpowder you had to be strong and skillful with whatever weapon you were using, that itself is impressive, and even if you don't fight alone you have to know how to be a good leader and try not to get betrayed and backstabbed, it was kill or be killed
I'm a pacifist too but there's beauty in violence; When a lion or an eagle attacks its prey, you can't deny the beauty in that show of strength and agility
We are animals too, very territorial animals
>When a lion or an eagle attacks its prey, you can't deny the beauty in that show of strength and agility
Not the same
You are more like talking about two lions clashing
Yes there is a beauty in war/fighting
I agree
When people say kebab
They talking about the kebab meat in bread and it was made by a turkish guy in Germany
The doner kebab
Kebab is not just any meat over a skewer
Its a particular type of meat
moronic idiot
This is literally what they want
They are fanatics
They love death
Its literally their ultimate goal
You talking to an idiot
>When people say kebab
>They talking about the kebab meat in bread and it was made by a turkish guy in Germany
>The doner kebab
>Kebab is not just any meat over a skewer
>Its a particular type of meat
No it isn't you fricking moron It's literally nothing more than skewered fire roasted meat.
>moronic idiot
>This is literally what they want
>They are fanatics
>They love death
>Its literally their ultimate goal
ISIS are humans anon. They get scared just like everyone else. Not even Allah can stop them from chickening out. There are hundreds of videos of ISIS warriors running away from American bullets.
They aren't superhumans. They are just stupid goat fricking inbreds.
Some people are evil and attack others. They even build religions based around being evil.
Turks aren't Christian though. Anyway that doesn't justify putting crazed murderers on a pedestal and later worshiping them
You really have to ignore the mainstream here and focus on recent revisionst material. The advance of research has shown it's now really all about Count Chocula.
But did they invent kebabs?
>But did they invent kebabs?
Nobody did.
people of all cultures from the Americas, Eurasia, Africa and Arabia have been skewering meat and cooking it over fires.
Probably the stupidest thing you could have possibly said.
Any examples? Seems like a pretty important guy. Definitely no expert but Jan Sobieski is the only guy that seems more important to stopping the Turks from what I’ve read.
He was a somewhat conpetent commander, nothing legendary. but turks seethe about him endlessly today so there's at least 10 different meme accounts of how he died.
Pretty sure he's remembered for being an edgelord not just killing Turks
>Pretty sure he's remembered for being an edgelord not just killing Turks
Not at all true.
The only way you can legitimately scare ISIS-tier Muslims is by doing what vlad did.
Skewering and displaying their remains in a field of death that even Allah can't ignore.
The Ottomans weren't remotely similar to ISIS
>The Ottomans weren't remotely similar to ISIS
They literally killed more than ten times the number of people that ISIS has.
They owned more slaves than ISIS ever has.
What in the frick is wrong with your brain anon.
Yeah because they were a massive empire that lasted centuries and not an insane statelet that lasted a few years. They still weren't ideologically, religiously or practically anything like them.
>Yeah because they were
Even more Muslims than ISIS you stupid frick lol.
>Yeah because they were a massive empire that lasted centuries and not an insane statelet that lasted a few years. They still weren't ideologically, religiously or practically anything like them.
Religiously they are the exact same.
No they aren't. Ottomans were Hanafi and the ruling class deeply entrenched with sufism.
Isis was wahabi that didn't even exist during the peak of the ottoman empire
>The State that has legal gay brothels and sultán'moms openly ruling the empire was the same as ISIS
Even ISIS itself called the Ottoman sufí Apostates, is this the power of Balkanoid historians?
>They literally killed more than ten times the number of people that ISIS has.
People die in war. Turks won alot of wars, while ISIS lost, hence why Turks also killed more. The ottoman empire has been around for centuries while IS has been around for maybe a decade.
>They owned more slaves than ISIS ever has.
The difference is that the Ottoman Empire had slaves at a time when that was normal in every big empire. IS has slaves at a time when it isnt acceptable.
A few months back I went to Muir woods in california. When I was walking through them there was a sign about John Muir, the person who the woods are named after. Apparently the man was a racist and eugenecist so I think this board will like him. I wish I took a picture of the board but I thought that was funny, have a picture of this tree instead
Not overrated, but it is a shame he completely overshadows even bigger dawgs, like Michael the Brave or Stephen III the Great :I
Say what you want about the MoldovoRomanians shitters, but I respect they had no fricking chill no matter the foe or odds lmfao
John Hunyadi>>>>>>
He was an Ottoman sex slave as a youth and his brother Radu was Mehmet II's favorite gay boy lover. As an adult, Vlad Dracula lashed out against his trauma by sodomizing dead turks. As punishment for this, his own people turned against him. Overall he was a rape victim and a loser. I'd estimate the Mongols were the best in terms of killing Turks historically.
He isn't remembered for killing more Turks. He's remembered for managing to gain power in Wallachia from his gay brother, impale his enemies, balance Austria and Hungary's Autism, and freak out Mehmed II despite all odds being against him