Why do we need more than 4 billion addresses. There will never be that many public IPs. Why is there such an urge to upgrade for some reason. IPV6 includes your mac address in your ip, making it easily traceable. This shit literally never made sense
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There is already a need for more than that million public static IPs and you're a lying moronic homosexual.
I guess the 8 billion + billions of servers + tens of billions of smart toys should just wait in a queue for internet access because IPv6 is just arbitrary and useless or something
my theory is schizos like op are frightened by large numbers they don't understand. 8 billion to them is infinity or some shit.
> schizos like op are frightened by large numbers
Like 6Million?
why would they be in a queue moron? if i host 1000 servers from my home and they connect to the goynet via my one home ip address why would I need 1000 more IPs
your 1000 home servers have 1000 different private IPv6 addresses
Pointlessly.
because there are only 64K TCP and UDP ports each and you need to choose one of them as source port even for outgoing connections. it is quite common for a system to have hundreds of connections open at all times.
So even if we didn't approach the number-of-ips limit (which we already did) we will run into the connections-per-ip limit.
are you serious? we have 64,000 TCP ports available. when would we ever worry about reaching that limit?
When you have 1000 servers in your home, as you said.
I only have 4 devices in my home network and my router currently shows 271 open connections to the internet.
Jeez, how many botnets infected your system?
Nobody will ever have 1000 servers in their home, simply because computers are unfixably insecure and it would be suicide to expose that many hosts to the public network.
Joe Black person can barely set a password on his WiFi AP.
they can stay behind NAT where they belong with no direct access from outside
why does my lightbulb need access FROM the internet when i turn it on only from the inside of my house
frick off glowies
Have you considered firewall?
The most secure systems literally disable ipv4 what are you waffling about?
I was wondering about that, I have a server, and my home ISP gives me ipv6, if I just disabled ipv4 on the server would that stop the 80 ssh login attempts (which all fail because I only have key auth) per minute I'm getting on the server?
Literally the opposite. Those systems aren't connected to the internet directly and have no benefit from ipv6. It is just more unnecessary administrative work.
Anon, you're a NEET that's why you didn't understand.
it’s not like every device has a unique public IP
>millions of servers
>millions of devices
they all connect to the internet via 1 public ipv4 address. This is like saying we need 32billion homes because there are 8billion humans. most share a home. Same logic with op addresses.
>4,294,967,296 address
>8.1 billion people, say 37% are internet capable
>8 100 000 000 *.37 = 2 997 000 000 | ~3billion
>3 billion people own at least two smart phones, say 1 out of 10 of such have voip which is another ipv4 address, and a home internet provider on top, and an IoT with dedicated non-NAT IP and WAN login access (since normies can't set up DDNS)
that's over 4billion, not to mention the host/sites would have their own IPs too,
this is why we have this carrier grade NAT shit issues and port forwarding problems.
IPv6 solves these problems with CG-NAT and IoT/multidevice but it is not immune to these problems:
>tower handover causes your auto configuration IPv6 to glitch, not receiving Volte over IPv6, or your ability to browse is gone due to glitch
>your "PC" or other devices require a complete local-side network disconnect (on wifi/lan network) to refresh your "IPv6 privacy" dhcp, leaving it "stale" also leads to issues where your v4 renewed but the v6 didn't, but also making your device sleep would invalidate your current IPv6
and to renew it, you'd actually have to disconnect to the wan interface, turn on off your wifi/unplug ethernet, reconnect, to renew the shit. it's not auto configuring on its own, this is the problem with dhcp v6 leases, and is also why volte vonr vowifi over v6 is not properly implemented also, even if these three had their own IPv6 leases (for each data and voice interface!)
this is the best inet imo ipv6 only client with dns64 for resolving domains and nat64 for routing traffic to ipv4 hosts. dual stack is a bad meme.
Mobile-style 464XLAT is even better because you don't need any DNS trickery.
It just uses a virtual IPv4 interface inside the device, which translates addresses to the NAT64 prefix.
As far as IPv4 applications can tell they're just behind a v4 NAT, but all the packets outside of the device are v6.
IPv4 is also easily traceable.
So is ipv6
he said "also" which includes it, dummy
it’s incomparible. one is a 16 digit code that they can use to find the address (via isp) and another literally includes my mac address so they can find my specific device.
>another literally includes my mac address so they can find my specific device.
Your router, dumbass, you don't assign public ip addresses to your individual devices.
>you don't assign public ip addresses to your individual devices
what? yes you do, that is the express intent of IPv6. Every device should have its own public IPv6 so you don't need NAT. Of course that turned out to be fricking stupid so now every device has IPv6 privacy extensions on top so they get a new (but still public and globally unique) IPv6 every 2-24 hours.
IPv6 is GAY and moronic
> dmca.fileditch.com/ipv6.mp4
with ipv6 I can have a new ip address for every packet if I wanted to
the only reason we're still using ipv4 is the real government monitoring psyop
this is true.
IPv6 + ECH is the endgame to combat censorship (server-side and gateway-side).
with IPv4, it's so easy to pinpoint and reverse lookup domains for that particular IPv4 which the gubmint/oppressor would then be able to snoop your connection solely because your cloudflare destination packet was that of IQfy (and it just so happens also that IQfy disabled sni encryption recently) https://boards.IQfy/cdn-cgi/trace
>but muh mac address in muh IPv6
IPv6 is GAY and moronic
people don't realize they can easily clone/randomize mac, which is even better for ipv6 since it ensures you're not using a stale connection, the only ones "worried" are proprietarygays whose devices can just disable the privacy extension for IPv6 had the gubmint decided to do so.
phones already by default use randomized mac anyways but also it works less like "NAT" when on IPv6, clearly no more "port forward over NAT" fiasco and all smart cameras just work and has their own accessible WAN IP if needed be.
>22R
How do people still fall for this shit bait?
>Why is there such an urge to upgrade for some reason. IPV6 includes your mac address in your ip, making it easily traceable.
you aren't forced to use EUI-64
>Why is there such an urge to upgrade for some reason.
is being cucked by CGNAT not enough of a reason to make you go to the pharmacy to buy antipsychotics, you low IQ mentally ill homosexual?
i know OP is probably trolling but, everyone, this really really makes me angry. i dont like this.
what happened to IPv5?
wait till you find out ipv6 was invented BEFORE ipv4
>IPv5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Stream_Protocol
It never got out of being experimental, but the number was allocated so IPv6 had to get 6
MAC address spoofing is a thing btw
Traceability issues aren't really a big issue.
The real problem, and why iPv6 is a collosal failure, is that they went with 128 bit addresses instead of 64 bit.
This bloats memory usage, and since CPUs are 64 bit, makes routing slower.
Everyone knew 32bit is not enough, that's why there are other problems like the Y2038 problem, associated with 32 bit.
The solution is 64bit, not 128bit.
>The real problem, and why iPv6 is a colossal failure, is that they went with 128 bit addresses instead of 64 bit.
>The solution is 64bit, not 128bit.
you're an idiot. v6 is faster than v4 in almost every scenario. if there is a situation where it isn't it is implementation error.
general comp sci tid bit for you by the way, the amount of memory something uses is not correlated to how fast it gets processed by the way. never post again you fricking homosexual Black person
>general comp sci tid bit for you by the way, the amount of memory something uses is not correlated to how fast it gets processed by the way. never post again you fricking homosexual Black person
Impressively confident despite being 100% wrong.
I salute you.
IPv6 is simply unnecessary
128 bit aren't the main issue and especially not because of memory usage concerns, that is beyond ridiculous. i believe the bigger issue is that it has too significant conceptual changes in how networking is supposed to be done compared to IPv4 that aren't obviously better. they may turn out to be better in retrospect but for now they severely impair rollout of IPv6 since admins don't accept significant changes without good justification
also the lack of privacy considerations when IPv6 was first designed with globally trackable MAC addresses embedded into public IP addresses was incredible short-sighted and even though that has been fixed long ago it will forever have jeopardized trust in IPv6
>bloats memory usage
oh no, a computer from the windows 95 era might have a slight bit of added difficulty. The horror.
They should've gone with 512bits for each IPv6 address so that the source/dest pair was exactly 1KB.
That way we actually wouldn't run out of addresses.
No, rather it's consequense of the gov monitoring psyop taking too much address space.
>There will never be that many public IP
Dumbass
>another ipv6 schizobait thread
>braindead, technologically illiterate post
>made by a political conspiraschizo
Pottery.
My ISP in my third world country can't even implement ipv6 properly. It has this weird behavior: when the router just completely booted, clients can use the ipv6 they are provided just fine. But after ~30min, the ipv6 addresses die. test-ipv6 will say it fail, client ping to ipv6 address won't work. So, if you hate ipv6, please, go to a third world country, they don't even know how to make the shit works properly.
>Is IPV6 a government monitoring psyop?
Yes. Get DoD/DISA to give back 7/8, 11/8, 26/8 and don't let one company buy up the whole thing. Get HP to give up their /8's that they use for desktops. I could go on and on. ARIN/RIPE/AFRIBlack personNET used to yank back IP allocations that were not being utilized properly. Now it's become an investment which means companies will never let them go. IPv4 could last another 200 years if properly managed.
this is the most frustrating part
we are forced to use a shit protocol and to complicate every program and system because of those dickless twats
The big red pill is that your ipv6 address decodes to your routers Mac address
hey what if we just add like 8 more bits so then we have ~281 trillion addresses to work with? it's more than enough, and only requires a fifth decimal number to write.
oh yeah and you could just like omit the fifth one if its zero
There are unused option bits that could be used for this.