you can get the win10 taskbar+explorer context menu + other things with this patcher thingy
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
Microsoft should still be ashamed of themselves for win11, but at least for now its not completely impossible to reclaim some of the lost functionality.
I think it's the best version of Windows yet, do keep in mind I haven't reinstalled it in three years since it came out and I've been on a local account installation of Education with group policy tweaks on it and with EU country as region, so I don't interact with 99% of the enshitification. I love how minimalist and clean it looks, helps me focus on getting shit done, and it's very "just werks" and has compatibility with literally everything just like W10 did. My favorite part are the new ms apps, I fricking love Notepad/Paint/Photos/Snipping Tool/Powershell/Terminal/Clock/Media Player and the fact it has 7z built in now. All my apps that I used to use before like Notepad++/PaintNet/JPEGView/VLC are replaced with first party shit that's auto updated through the store with a single click and generally takes little space and doesn't have any dependancy issues. Some based vidya improvements to windowed mode, autohdr, and gamemode are nice that give better performance overall especially on newer hardware. It's really fricking kino, I think in the future people will consider this the Windows 7 v2
Might be plecebo but I think games ran better.
If you don't have modern everything hardware you'll likely get a shitter experience, though.
My only gripe is i had to turn off and tweak a million things for it to leave me alone. > no I dont want to sign into my microsoft account in the calculator app!
>Bare metal windows has always, and will always run games the best
Passthru is some kind of bizarre magic though. There really is no performance hit even though it makes no sense.
The only thing I can guess is that a bunch of telemetry gets stymied and fails which results in performance gains that offset the losses, it's the only thing that could possibly make sense.
Not will always. You know why games run that way right? Because of the design of the games software, not anything intrinsic to windows itself. If tommorow developers agreed to develop game solely for macos games would run the best on mac.
yes once you learn about all the things you have to fix and turn off.
microsoft are so desperate for people to like it that if you have a microsoft account on a previous version of windows and install Windows 11, they'll activate it for free
I wish it weren't so fricking slow. It's like every UI action takes a solid 3 - 5 seconds to load, and sometimes it doesn't even load the first time I click.
Explorer has never felt so slow and clunky, like navigating feels like everything has a half second delay of loading. Makes me want to scream
yeah it's fine. It's not perfect, but it's decent. I like it a bit better than windows 10. There's a few defaults I had to disable though, like the new context menu was annoying, and I uninstalled a few apps I didn't want, but it only took like 10 minutes
I use 11 Pro for Workstations daily and have 0 issues with it. Just make sure that you disable account and hardware requirements in rufus when putting the iso on usb stick, so you wont have to deal with bs pushed by satya. freetards and baby duckies need not apply.
It's mostly some businesses and a few IQfy schizos who are still on 10.
Everyone is gradually moving to 11, and newer prebuilt computers have 11, undoubtedly.
At the end of the day, 11 is mostly just 10 with a minor facelift. 11 is also supposed to be better suited to machines with e-cores, too, than 10.
>newer prebuilt computers have 11...
Only normies and idiots buy prebuilt. Just had a computer built and said I want 10. They said no problem, no one wants 11 anyway. Deal with it.
This is why I don't get about you fricking win10/11 tards. You say it's fine, just download 64 different pieces of software to fix all the broken shit, spy shit, frickery, prompts, ads, etc. Just to run your fricking machine that you paid for. That is yours. Like what the frick.
I just don't understand how your brain works. I mean... i'm not trying to be insulting. I just don't understand how people voluntarily give microshit that much control of their machine and they then have to source out all this shit just to keep them from getting spied upon 24/7 or their data harvested up or having updates forced down their throat every 19 minutes. I just don't get it. It's your fricking computer. Take it back!
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Some people want to run programs or games that only run on windows.
Not everyone has the knowledge or the time or the will to tinker, which is unavoidable even on "just werks" distros, especially if you're trying to run .exes.
The botnet in windows is a big downside indeed (which some people don't really care about for whatever reason), but linux and macos have their own downsides as well, so it really comes down to the magnitude of all the individual pros and cons for you and your circumstances, and which choice ends up aligning the best with what you want.
I should also say that I'm not
It's horrific by default, but you can make it normal with some settings and 3rd party shit.
I've run several flavors of linux and cannot settle on a distro but i'm working on it.
Some people want to run programs or games that only run on windows.
Not everyone has the knowledge or the time or the will to tinker, which is unavoidable even on "just werks" distros, especially if you're trying to run .exes.
The botnet in windows is a big downside indeed (which some people don't really care about for whatever reason), but linux and macos have their own downsides as well, so it really comes down to the magnitude of all the individual pros and cons for you and your circumstances, and which choice ends up aligning the best with what you want.
I should also say that I'm not [...]
I dual boot.
I get it. Get along to go along. Do what's popular etc. The general public is fricking clueless. I get it. But I still expect more from IQfyners. You guys are moronic like me, but not all the way moronic you know?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>distrohopper questioning anybody's choices
How worthless is your time really?
Windows versions should only be swapped on an as-needed basis. At the moment, 11 doesn't really offer much over 10 for most people. People on 10 are likely to skip it for 12.
Upgrading OS's is also a pain in the ass since it fricks with all your settings and organization. It's something that you'll end up taking a whole day to fully settle into, hence why so many are reluctant. Why bother?
When 12 comes along and gives a silver bullet to 10 like 10 gave to 7 with its Dx12, then you'll see a mass change-over, but not to 11. This has been the trend since XP.
>Windows 10 ends tomorrow and there is nothing anyone can do about it
10 years of support with each release, breh
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise/whats-new/windows-iot-enterprise-ltsc
Windows 11 pro has been really solid the last year for me. Con is you have to uncheck 500 settings for privacy, etc... but once you get it under control it works fine. People are definitely drama queens about it. I also use my ms account and have a frick ton of "bloat" installeed, because i don't really game on my laptop (PS5 and Series X for that), and I just installed a 2tb ssd so why not. I'm not even remotely pressed for space.
Try linux instead
I guess that's understandable. Stuff I play doesn't have a problem but I'm using Mint not Arch.
>gaymes
Linux is not for children
YWNBAW
LTSC is coming, so yes
Still no taskbar on the left side of the screen?
Last I checked, no. It's one of several reasons I'll remain on 10.
no.
you can get the win10 taskbar+explorer context menu + other things with this patcher thingy
https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
Microsoft should still be ashamed of themselves for win11, but at least for now its not completely impossible to reclaim some of the lost functionality.
You can change pretty much all the UI stuff to be like 10. Some of it requires using regedit though.
I think it's the best version of Windows yet, do keep in mind I haven't reinstalled it in three years since it came out and I've been on a local account installation of Education with group policy tweaks on it and with EU country as region, so I don't interact with 99% of the enshitification. I love how minimalist and clean it looks, helps me focus on getting shit done, and it's very "just werks" and has compatibility with literally everything just like W10 did. My favorite part are the new ms apps, I fricking love Notepad/Paint/Photos/Snipping Tool/Powershell/Terminal/Clock/Media Player and the fact it has 7z built in now. All my apps that I used to use before like Notepad++/PaintNet/JPEGView/VLC are replaced with first party shit that's auto updated through the store with a single click and generally takes little space and doesn't have any dependancy issues. Some based vidya improvements to windowed mode, autohdr, and gamemode are nice that give better performance overall especially on newer hardware. It's really fricking kino, I think in the future people will consider this the Windows 7 v2
shalom, chosen
im not a israelite doebeit
I tried it on a vm with gpu passthrough
Might be plecebo but I think games ran better.
If you don't have modern everything hardware you'll likely get a shitter experience, though.
My only gripe is i had to turn off and tweak a million things for it to leave me alone.
> no I dont want to sign into my microsoft account in the calculator app!
Bare metal windows has always, and will always run games the best
yea no shit but i'm not installing windows and especially not using playing my kernel level anti-cheat gacha games on my main OS
>Bare metal windows has always, and will always run games the best
Passthru is some kind of bizarre magic though. There really is no performance hit even though it makes no sense.
The only thing I can guess is that a bunch of telemetry gets stymied and fails which results in performance gains that offset the losses, it's the only thing that could possibly make sense.
Not will always. You know why games run that way right? Because of the design of the games software, not anything intrinsic to windows itself. If tommorow developers agreed to develop game solely for macos games would run the best on mac.
yes once you learn about all the things you have to fix and turn off.
microsoft are so desperate for people to like it that if you have a microsoft account on a previous version of windows and install Windows 11, they'll activate it for free
It's slower than windows 10
I wish it weren't so fricking slow. It's like every UI action takes a solid 3 - 5 seconds to load, and sometimes it doesn't even load the first time I click.
Explorer has never felt so slow and clunky, like navigating feels like everything has a half second delay of loading. Makes me want to scream
yeah it's fine. It's not perfect, but it's decent. I like it a bit better than windows 10. There's a few defaults I had to disable though, like the new context menu was annoying, and I uninstalled a few apps I didn't want, but it only took like 10 minutes
it's not horrible but it is still windows
So much cope itt
>is it even worth trying?
AHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAAAAHAHAAAHAH *takes breath* AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
I use 11 Pro for Workstations daily and have 0 issues with it. Just make sure that you disable account and hardware requirements in rufus when putting the iso on usb stick, so you wont have to deal with bs pushed by satya. freetards and baby duckies need not apply.
Has microsoft or other releases data on how many people are still on windows 10 vs 11?
It's mostly some businesses and a few IQfy schizos who are still on 10.
Everyone is gradually moving to 11, and newer prebuilt computers have 11, undoubtedly.
At the end of the day, 11 is mostly just 10 with a minor facelift. 11 is also supposed to be better suited to machines with e-cores, too, than 10.
>newer prebuilt computers have 11...
Only normies and idiots buy prebuilt. Just had a computer built and said I want 10. They said no problem, no one wants 11 anyway. Deal with it.
>Only normies and idiots
So pretty much everyone?
Yes, literally everyone.
No one cares for the 0.000001% that are 4chunz autists
not meaningfully different from 10
It is if you want the optimal gaming experience. Otherwise stick to linux.
sure. you get copilot too.
well, that was certainly 113 seconds of my life that i'll never get back
Come home where you know you belong.
where did it all go wrong
When the normies invaded the PC space.
I'll just leave this here.
https://rebornxp.js.org/
Honestly XP and 7 were the only Windows worth a shit.
>t.user since Win 3.2
dont do it. I went back to 10 & was so relieved I did.
No, not really. It's basically a UI downgrade from 10, which is quite 'impressive' since the so-called modern UI from 10 is shit in and of itself.
It's horrific by default, but you can make it normal with some settings and 3rd party shit.
This is why I don't get about you fricking win10/11 tards. You say it's fine, just download 64 different pieces of software to fix all the broken shit, spy shit, frickery, prompts, ads, etc. Just to run your fricking machine that you paid for. That is yours. Like what the frick.
The other options are worse in different ways.
I just don't understand how your brain works. I mean... i'm not trying to be insulting. I just don't understand how people voluntarily give microshit that much control of their machine and they then have to source out all this shit just to keep them from getting spied upon 24/7 or their data harvested up or having updates forced down their throat every 19 minutes. I just don't get it. It's your fricking computer. Take it back!
Some people want to run programs or games that only run on windows.
Not everyone has the knowledge or the time or the will to tinker, which is unavoidable even on "just werks" distros, especially if you're trying to run .exes.
The botnet in windows is a big downside indeed (which some people don't really care about for whatever reason), but linux and macos have their own downsides as well, so it really comes down to the magnitude of all the individual pros and cons for you and your circumstances, and which choice ends up aligning the best with what you want.
I should also say that I'm not
I dual boot.
It became normalized in windows 8. It's just part of it now. I personally use Linux but our IT department has been shipping out W11 machines to users.
I've run several flavors of linux and cannot settle on a distro but i'm working on it.
I get it. Get along to go along. Do what's popular etc. The general public is fricking clueless. I get it. But I still expect more from IQfyners. You guys are moronic like me, but not all the way moronic you know?
>distrohopper questioning anybody's choices
How worthless is your time really?
Do you need to be logged in to use copilot (in the os or in edge)?
> logged in to use copilot
no. os is using a local account.
If you are using 10 then you already have cum in your mouth so might as well give swallowing a try and use 11.
Unless installing and using any OS has become trivial, yes because until you're jaded you're a noob and that's no good.
The way to find out is never to ask, that's noobish. Throw it in a VM and figure out what YOU care about for YOUR use case.
never tried it but it looks better than 10 at least with the glassy UI
Windows versions should only be swapped on an as-needed basis. At the moment, 11 doesn't really offer much over 10 for most people. People on 10 are likely to skip it for 12.
Upgrading OS's is also a pain in the ass since it fricks with all your settings and organization. It's something that you'll end up taking a whole day to fully settle into, hence why so many are reluctant. Why bother?
When 12 comes along and gives a silver bullet to 10 like 10 gave to 7 with its Dx12, then you'll see a mass change-over, but not to 11. This has been the trend since XP.
Wrong 10 support ends next year so they'll switch
>Windows 10 ends tomorrow and there is nothing anyone can do about it
10 years of support with each release, breh
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/iot/iot-enterprise/whats-new/windows-iot-enterprise-ltsc
Windows 11 pro has been really solid the last year for me. Con is you have to uncheck 500 settings for privacy, etc... but once you get it under control it works fine. People are definitely drama queens about it. I also use my ms account and have a frick ton of "bloat" installeed, because i don't really game on my laptop (PS5 and Series X for that), and I just installed a 2tb ssd so why not. I'm not even remotely pressed for space.
No.
Nah. I'm literally jerking off right now, btw.